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Pixel Music - make music from images

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  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    I could see sound for standalone to create and save patterns, but in the Au you can route the midi to so many great sounding synths, the sound won’t be used as much.

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @andreitonescu said:
    Hi everyone - there are a lot of things progressing with the app right now but I switched for a bit on getting Pixel Music to work in the new Logic Pro on the iPad.

    Besides some obvious fixes, it seems that Logic is very specific to the type of AUv3. Currently, Pixel Music is of the type 'music generator'.

    I've chosen this because it was better supported when I started working on it and it has worked well in iOS hosts until now (like AUM, or ApeMatrix) - because they allow the selection of this type of Audio Unit both as an audio generator and as a MIDI sender. So if someone wants to use it as an audio generator, they can - same as someone who only wants to use it for MIDI.

    Logic Pro on the iPad has changed this since it's not seeing it under the MIDI FX selection, essentially limiting Pixel Music as a sound generator.

    I'm curious about everyone's usage of the app as an audio unit until now: have you used it as a sound generator, or for MIDI output? In principle, I'm interested to know if switching it to a 'midi instrument' will affect anyone (this means that you will not be able to use it for generating sound as an audio unit).

    Alternatively, if someone with more experience in Logic Pro knows a way to output MIDI from an Instrument, do let me know.

    Any chance on reopening the beta, I missed it in March, somehow… lol. Would love to test it out to help you and try before I buy so to speak. Thanks.

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @Poppadocrock tis totally worth it. Not too many apps allow velocity duration and such flexibility in a "random" generator. Plenty of scales as well if you dont feel like routing into Brams scale app or Mozaic

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @audiblevideo said:
    @Poppadocrock tis totally worth it. Not too many apps allow velocity duration and such flexibility in a "random" generator. Plenty of scales as well if you dont feel like routing into Brams scale app or Mozaic

    Yep it’s a great app.

  • andreitonescuandreitonescu

    Thanks for all the great feedback! To be clear, the discussion around Audio + Midi or Midi only is only about the AUv3 version, not the standalone app.

    For now, I think I am going to keep it as is (both Audio and Midi in AUv3) until I gather more insights about usage with Logic and in order to not block the work I’m doing on the new functionality. There's also the possibility that with a future update, Logic will also support sending MIDI from Audio Generator AUv3s (I've seen some feedback around this here in the forum).

    @Poppadocrock there will be a new beta soonish, I'll share it here.

  • MrStochasticMrStochastic

    @andreitonescu said:
    Thanks for all the great feedback! To be clear, the discussion around Audio + Midi or Midi only is only about the AUv3 version, not the standalone app.

    For now, I think I am going to keep it as is (both Audio and Midi in AUv3)

    One (I hope) simple request is for in the AUv3 version, that the audio engine is not on by default.
    Every time I am setting up a new sequence I have to deselect the onboard synth so that I can hear whatever connected synth I'm trying to use. Not a big deal but slightly tedious.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @andreitonescu said:
    Hi everyone - there are a lot of things progressing with the app right now but I switched for a bit on getting Pixel Music to work in the new Logic Pro on the iPad.

    Besides some obvious fixes, it seems that Logic is very specific to the type of AUv3. Currently, Pixel Music is of the type 'music generator'.

    I've chosen this because it was better supported when I started working on it and it has worked well in iOS hosts until now (like AUM, or ApeMatrix) - because they allow the selection of this type of Audio Unit both as an audio generator and as a MIDI sender. So if someone wants to use it as an audio generator, they can - same as someone who only wants to use it for MIDI.

    Logic Pro on the iPad has changed this since it's not seeing it under the MIDI FX selection, essentially limiting Pixel Music as a sound generator.

    I'm curious about everyone's usage of the app as an audio unit until now: have you used it as a sound generator, or for MIDI output? In principle, I'm interested to know if switching it to a 'midi instrument' will affect anyone (this means that you will not be able to use it for generating sound as an audio unit).

    Alternatively, if someone with more experience in Logic Pro knows a way to output MIDI from an Instrument, do let me know.

    Midi output would definitely be the main thing

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    @andreitonescu said:
    Thanks for all the great feedback! To be clear, the discussion around Audio + Midi or Midi only is only about the AUv3 version, not the standalone app.

    For now, I think I am going to keep it as is (both Audio and Midi in AUv3) until I gather more insights about usage with Logic and in order to not block the work I’m doing on the new functionality. There's also the possibility that with a future update, Logic will also support sending MIDI from Audio Generator AUv3s (I've seen some feedback around this here in the forum).

    @Poppadocrock there will be a new beta soonish, I'll share it here.

    That would be awesome. I’d love to give it a spin. I’m not sure how I missed the one from 3-4 months ago. I’ve heard great things. It was recently featured in Computer Music Mag on the App Watch page. I actually tweeted about it. Excited to try it out. I’ll keep my eyes open for that beta. Thanks, Cheers.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @andreitonescu said:
    Thanks for all the great feedback! To be clear, the discussion around Audio + Midi or Midi only is only about the AUv3 version, not the standalone app.

    For now, I think I am going to keep it as is (both Audio and Midi in AUv3) until I gather more insights about usage with Logic and in order to not block the work I’m doing on the new functionality. There's also the possibility that with a future update, Logic will also support sending MIDI from Audio Generator AUv3s (I've seen some feedback around this here in the forum).

    @Poppadocrock there will be a new beta soonish, I'll share it here.

    Awesome! Thanks for the updates. It’s become one of my favorite midi apps, so I’m glad to hear you’re still hard at work on it.

  • andreitonescuandreitonescu

    Hi everyone - hope you are well.

    An update is long due here, and I’m happy to say that I am sharing one today. There’s a new beta of Pixel Music available here: https://testflight.apple.com/join/0f04sLle, mostly focused on the ability to customize step lengths for sequencers in what I called “Verses”.

    I’ve also added a higher res mode @skiphunt, fixed some bugs, and am now storing the audio engine setting separately per standalone and audio unit, so you can keep it off when used as an audio unit @Stochastically.

    This is all very fresh, so I haven't had time to update the manual and so on, just wanted to get this out there. Let me know what you think! As always, thanks for your support and feedback!

    Full list of features:

    • Verses: customize step lengths of sequencers in multiple sequential patterns
    • 32x48 higher res mode for images
    • Multiple dotted note options added for timing selection
    • Internal Synth Activated and Allow Background Activity options are now persisted and differentiated between standalone and audio unit mode. This allows you to keep the internal synth deactivated all the time when running as an audio unit
    • Bug fixes
  • myapologiesmyapologies

    This is very cool, thank you. I made this track using high res mode.

    Stuck notes occurred several times using the test version in AUM. I saved and reopened AUM, and the stuck note problem would disappear then reappear

  • MrStochasticMrStochastic

    @andreitonescu said:

    An update is long due here, and I’m happy to say that I am sharing one today.

    Full list of features:

    • Verses: customize step lengths of sequencers in multiple sequential patterns
    • 32x48 higher res mode for images
    • Multiple dotted note options added for timing selection
    • Internal Synth Activated and Allow Background Activity options are now persisted and differentiated between standalone and audio unit mode. This allows you to keep the internal synth deactivated all the time when running as an audio unit
    • Bug fixes

    Great news! I'm looking forward to it.

    @myapologies said:
    This is very cool, thank you. I made this track using high res mode.

    Interesting use of it! I was having fun before making the images symmetrical, etc. and I'm looking forward to the higher res.

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop

    @andreitonescu said:

    Hi everyone - hope you are well.

    An update is long due here, and I’m happy to say that I am sharing one today. There’s a new beta of Pixel Music available here: https://testflight.apple.com/join/0f04sLle, mostly focused on the ability to customize step lengths for sequencers in what I called “Verses”.

    I’ve also added a higher res mode @skiphunt, fixed some bugs, and am now storing the audio engine setting separately per standalone and audio unit, so you can keep it off when used as an audio unit @Stochastically.

    This is all very fresh, so I haven't had time to update the manual and so on, just wanted to get this out there. Let me know what you think! As always, thanks for your support and feedback!

    Full list of features:

    • Verses: customize step lengths of sequencers in multiple sequential patterns
    • 32x48 higher res mode for images
    • Multiple dotted note options added for timing selection
    • Internal Synth Activated and Allow Background Activity options are now persisted and differentiated between standalone and audio unit mode. This allows you to keep the internal synth deactivated all the time when running as an audio unit
    • Bug fixes

    Will it work in IOS GarageBand now ? *fingers crossed *

  • PxlhgPxlhg
    edited February 2024

    Crashes on crop. Also, the volume isn't very linear i.e from 20-100 nothing much change (having global volume on 100)

    Edit: Very cool app by the way, will definitely buy it.

  • skiphuntskiphunt

    @andreitonescu Cool 😎 can’t wait to play with this again!

    I’m traveling at the moment. Is the new higher res in the beta only now? Or a public version update already submitted?

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @andreitonescu said:

    Hi everyone - hope you are well.

    An update is long due here, and I’m happy to say that I am sharing one today. There’s a new beta of Pixel Music available here: https://testflight.apple.com/join/0f04sLle, mostly focused on the ability to customize step lengths for sequencers in what I called “Verses”.

    I’ve also added a higher res mode @skiphunt, fixed some bugs, and am now storing the audio engine setting separately per standalone and audio unit, so you can keep it off when used as an audio unit @Stochastically.

    This is all very fresh, so I haven't had time to update the manual and so on, just wanted to get this out there. Let me know what you think! As always, thanks for your support and feedback!

    Full list of features:

    • Verses: customize step lengths of sequencers in multiple sequential patterns
    • 32x48 higher res mode for images
    • Multiple dotted note options added for timing selection
    • Internal Synth Activated and Allow Background Activity options are now persisted and differentiated between standalone and audio unit mode. This allows you to keep the internal synth deactivated all the time when running as an audio unit
    • Bug fixes

    Drat, beta is full! If you free up any I’d love to join but regardless welcome back and thanks for the update!

  • andreitonescuandreitonescu

    @HotStrange said:
    Drat, beta is full! If you free up any I’d love to join but regardless welcome back and thanks for the update!

    I just extended the limit now. Will also check the feedback in detail after the weekend, travelling now. Thanks everyone for all the input!

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @andreitonescu said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Drat, beta is full! If you free up any I’d love to join but regardless welcome back and thanks for the update!

    I just extended the limit now. Will also check the feedback in detail after the weekend, travelling now. Thanks everyone for all the input!

    Thanks :) looking forward to trying it out!

  • KashiKashi

    No update available here. Am I missing something @andreitonescu ?

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @Kashi said:
    No update available here. Am I missing something @andreitonescu ?

    Heve you signed up for the beta on Testflight? That's where all the updates are...

  • KashiKashi

    @enkaytee said:

    @Kashi said:
    No update available here. Am I missing something @andreitonescu ?

    Heve you signed up for the beta on Testflight? That's where all the updates are...

    Ah, no I haven't. My mistake

  • andreitonescuandreitonescu

    @Pxlhg said:
    Crashes on crop

    I've had multiple people report on this, but I can't get it to crash on my end. Can you share some details about the configuration you were using in terms of grid side, if you had multiple sequencers, verses, etc. - any info will potentially help to isolate this. Thanks!

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop
    edited February 2024


    Still Not compatible in GarageBand on my phone13 pro max .

  • andreitonescuandreitonescu

    @Fear2Stop said:
    Still Not compatible in GarageBand on my phone13 pro max .

    I’m going to push a build tomorrow to tackle the size issue on iPhones after some tweaks on the UI:

    However, there are some other issues with Garage Band. The way it handles timing is different than other AU hosts that I experimented with - in short, it resets the timing after a section is completed and this stops the sequencers because Pixel Music expects the timing to continue to increment. I haven’t seen any other AU host do this.

    I’ll put the build out as is since you can still use it if you have longer sections and look for your feedback.

    I’ve also managed to catch the crop issue 🤞. Cheers

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Fear2Stop said:

    Still Not compatible in GarageBand on my phone13 pro max .

    No shade towards you, GB is great and I love it myself. But I’ve noticed a lot of the issues you have with these apps often stems from some issue in GB vs the app itself. Maybe worth considering Cubasis? It works very well on iPhone and surprisingly isn’t cluttered (imo). And regarding AUs it’s a lot more stable (plus you’d be able to use midi effects which is one of the best things about Pixel).

  • andreitonescuandreitonescu

    There should be a new build out now that hopefully fixes the Crop issue and the UI for Garage Band.

  • PummelfeePummelfee

    I wonder if there is an app or something, that "scans" in image from left to right. Lets say an EEG or a waveform. So that from the information in these images will be some MIDI Data generated.

  • PxlhgPxlhg
    edited February 2024

    @andreitonescu said:
    There should be a new build out now that hopefully fixes the Crop issue and the UI for Garage Band.

    Not available yet and I was doing a log for you, it was 32x48 I think. Anyway here’s a link to the log file (if you don’t need it, all the merrier 😃)

    EDIT: Got it now and it works, great! 😊

  • Fear2StopFear2Stop

    @HotStrange said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    Still Not compatible in GarageBand on my phone13 pro max .

    No shade towards you, GB is great and I love it myself. But I’ve noticed a lot of the issues you have with these apps often stems from some issue in GB vs the app itself. Maybe worth considering Cubasis? It works very well on iPhone and surprisingly isn’t cluttered (imo). And regarding AUs it’s a lot more stable (plus you’d be able to use midi effects which is one of the best things about Pixel).

    I’m going to get Cubasis next time it goes on sale and I have the cash

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Fear2Stop said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Fear2Stop said:

    Still Not compatible in GarageBand on my phone13 pro max .

    No shade towards you, GB is great and I love it myself. But I’ve noticed a lot of the issues you have with these apps often stems from some issue in GB vs the app itself. Maybe worth considering Cubasis? It works very well on iPhone and surprisingly isn’t cluttered (imo). And regarding AUs it’s a lot more stable (plus you’d be able to use midi effects which is one of the best things about Pixel).

    I’m going to get Cubasis next time it goes on sale and I have the cash

    Oh awesome! I’m excited for ya. I think you’ll really like it. Don’t underestimate those HALion sounds and Waves effects either. It really puts Cubasis on another level.

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