KB-1 MIDI Keyboard from Kai Aras

JudgeDredd

@aaronpc said:

@Carnbot said:
Just bought this, seems great..but was disappointed to discover you can’t add multiple keyboards to a single AU instance. I guess I assumed this was possible, unless I’ve missed a feature. Is this going to happen at some point @ka010 ?
That would be really useful I think. Then you could still use multiple midi channels on the same instance.

I had hoped to have several keyboards per instance, too. I was wanting to set each to a different scale so that I could solo seamlessly across key changes.

You can do this in apeMatrix.

JudgeDredd

aaronpc

@JudgeDredd said:

Thanks, but the first thing I did was try that in AUM. I can't deal with all those windows. Plus, it's a no go in Cubasis. Spoiled rotten, me.

ErrkaPetti

I’m one of the guys always struggling with the real piano playing, and, are very glad over apps that make it easier to play like a Pro!
KB-1 is marvelous in many ways, but not 100% still...
Some changes, and this will the no1 app to goto in many cases...

This screenshot shows one thing that I don’t understand: why aren’t there C2 to C5 we see?
Now it’s overlapping C3 octave two times?

ka010

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Think I’m gonna buy it (since it’s gonna be universal). But can someone confirm, does per note independent pitch bend work with MPE synths, eg Roli Noise?

MPE implementation follows the official spec so it'll work just like a seaboard. In other words, yes per note expression works with all MPE synths that follow the spec. Roli Noise, Equator, VOLT, Geoshred have all been tested fairly well during beta.

@Samu said:
An old-school ’chord memory’ could be really usefull.

Duh! How did not think of this...

@Carnbot said:
Just bought this, seems great..but was disappointed to discover you can’t add multiple keyboards to a single AU instance. I guess I assumed this was possible, unless I’ve missed a feature. Is this going to happen at some point @ka010 ?
That would be really useful I think. Then you could still use multiple midi channels on the same instance.

Hmm, not a simple thing to add, I'll think about it but it might take a couple of update before I get to that.

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Carnbot

@ka010 ?

That would be really useful I think. Then you could still use multiple midi channels on the same instance.

Hmm, not a simple thing to add, I'll think about it but it might take a couple of update before I get to that.

That would be great! Yeah no rush of course, whenever it's feasible to add it. This would make it better to use in Audiobus too since you can't float windows and hence can't use multiple at once when used as AU.

Matt_Fletcher_2000

@ka010 said:

@Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
Think I’m gonna buy it (since it’s gonna be universal). But can someone confirm, does per note independent pitch bend work with MPE synths, eg Roli Noise?

MPE implementation follows the official spec so it'll work just like a seaboard. In other words, yes per note expression works with all MPE synths that follow the spec. Roli Noise, Equator, VOLT, Geoshred have all been tested fairly well during beta.

Fab. Thanks.

ErrkaPetti

@ErrkaPetti said:
I’m one of the guys always struggling with the real piano playing, and, are very glad over apps that make it easier to play like a Pro!
KB-1 is marvelous in many ways, but not 100% still...
Some changes, and this will the no1 app to goto in many cases...

This screenshot shows one thing that I don’t understand: why aren’t there C2 to C5 we see?
Now it’s overlapping C3 octave two times?

No good answer on my question mr @ka010 ?

TheOriginalPaulB

@ErrkaPetti said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
I’m one of the guys always struggling with the real piano playing, and, are very glad over apps that make it easier to play like a Pro!
KB-1 is marvelous in many ways, but not 100% still...
Some changes, and this will the no1 app to goto in many cases...

This screenshot shows one thing that I don’t understand: why aren’t there C2 to C5 we see?
Now it’s overlapping C3 octave two times?

No good answer on my question mr @ka010 ?

Get in line, he’s busy ignoring my suggestion regarding accelerometer velocity sensing...

ohwell

@ka010 Will there be 3D Touch support for iPhone - both for aftertouch and velocity? That would be HUUUUUUGE (as of now there are so few options that do a good job with that...)

@TheOriginalPaulB Not sure how easy that is to implement, but I agree this would be wonderful. Is the accelerometer the only thing involved for velocity sensing in GarageBand on iPads? It works surprisingly well. (If its accelerometer only, I’m looking forward to the day someone comes up with a smart/adaptive way to integrate accelerometer data with touch size and data from the onboard mic input to improve per note velocity without 3D Touch.)

gusgranite

@ErrkaPetti said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
I’m one of the guys always struggling with the real piano playing, and, are very glad over apps that make it easier to play like a Pro!
KB-1 is marvelous in many ways, but not 100% still...
Some changes, and this will the no1 app to goto in many cases...

This screenshot shows one thing that I don’t understand: why aren’t there C2 to C5 we see?
Now it’s overlapping C3 octave two times?

No good answer on my question mr @ka010 ?

Give him a break! You only asked a few hours ago...

ohwell

@ErrkaPetti said:

This screenshot shows one thing that I don’t understand: why aren’t there C2 to C5 we see?
Now it’s overlapping C3 octave two times?

For some uses the overlap is a boon: to reduce finger stretching when playing large intervals - including for chord voicing. It’s done especially well on the “string” setting.

@ka010 It would be super useful to have some setting to control the interval between the starting notes on each row. That would open up so many options.. Btw, I already can’t live without KB-1! Opens so many doors for on screen synth playing. Kudos!

kobamoto

sheeesh fellas give Ka010 a chance he'll be around, it's not as if he made the playground app and didn't include sample import or something, no what I mean vern...

JohnnyGoodyear

@kobamoto said:
sheeesh fellas give Ka010 a chance he'll be around, it's not as if he made the playground app and didn't include sample import or something, no what I mean vern...

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CracklePot

@ErrkaPetti

Well, it only seems to do that on the Scale KB. The other KBs seem to not overlap.

@ka010 I noticed some weirdness in the scale menu. The last 4 scales are off. I think Spanish got switched with Maj Penta or something.
Maj Penta gives Spanish
Min Penta gives Maj Penta
Arabic gives Min Penta
Spanish gives Arabic

It seems like the Spanish mapped to the Maj Penta label, and bumped the following 3 scales, so that they give the scale type of the preceding label.

The other scales seem ok.

ohwell

@CracklePot the string layout puts each row a fourth apart, like the E A D G string on a guitar in standard tuning, or like all the string in P4 tuning. (Guitarists, rejoice! I bet some people would like eg the option to make the interval a fifth on the string layout...)

CracklePot

@ohwell said:
@CracklePot the string layout puts each row a fourth apart, like the E A D G string on guitar. (Guitarists, rejoice!)

That was intended, I think. If not, it works great for guitarists (like me).
I think the overlapping octaves on the scale layout may be intentional as well, after reading that it makes playing large intervals easier.

mrufino1

I probably missed something in the thread, but can this do Bluetooth midi or physical midi out, say if I wanted to use it to play my behringer model D onstage? I’d love to use that live sometimes but don’t want to bring a keyboard to gigs again, but my iPad is already on a stand in front of me.

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@ohwell said:
@CracklePot the string layout puts each row a fourth apart, like the E A D G string on a guitar in standard tuning, or like all the string in P4 tuning. (Guitarists, rejoice! I bet some people would like eg the option to make the interval a fifth on the string layout...)

Very good piont! Fifths needed for strings.

CracklePot

@[Deleted User] said:

@ohwell said:
@CracklePot the string layout puts each row a fourth apart, like the E A D G string on a guitar in standard tuning, or like all the string in P4 tuning. (Guitarists, rejoice! I bet some people would like eg the option to make the interval a fifth on the string layout...)

Very good piont! Fifths needed for strings.

I would like unison spacing between strings.
Then it would work like a single, tall keyboard.

mojozart

An isomorphic keyboard layout (two-dimensional grid) would be a fun addition to AUv3.

I see.. strings or uniform with multiple rows looks like that.

If I drag (slide) a note vertically across a row, I get a NoteOn that I wish there were a way to avoid.

Also, I wish there were a way to lock the keys to a natural size independent of the shape of the keyboard window.

ohwell

@CracklePot Yeah I’m sure that’s the intention. It’s also the default layout on the excellent Linnstrument afaik. P4 is great.

wim

@CracklePot said:
@ErrkaPetti

Well, it only seems to do that on the Scale KB. The other KBs seem to not overlap.

@ka010 I noticed some weirdness in the scale menu. The last 4 scales are off. I think Spanish got switched with Maj Penta or something.
Maj Penta gives Spanish
Min Penta gives Maj Penta
Arabic gives Min Penta
Spanish gives Arabic

It seems like the Spanish mapped to the Maj Penta label, and bumped the following 3 scales, so that they give the scale type of the preceding label.

The other scales seem ok.

The developer confirmed this bug earlier, and said it would be fixed.

Samu

@ka010 found a 'bug' with the velocity and the on/off light in the AUv3 extensions.

Initially the blue light is 'off' and the keyboard transmits the same velocity regardless of where the key is pressed.

Turning the light on (blue) the keys transmit velocity (top = highest velocity, bottom = lowest).
After turning 'off' the blue light they keys keep on sending velocity depending on the Y-Axis?!
(Is there any setting for the default velocity? Maybe add a 'value box' next to the vol button?).

And well, I'm one of those crazy people who prefer to have the Y-Axis flipped and one way to do this is to add more options for the VEL button. (Ie. 'dark' = no velocity, 'blue' the way it currently works and 'red' for flipped y-axis).

Hope it's an easy fix
Cheers!

CracklePot

@wim said:

@CracklePot said:
@ErrkaPetti

Well, it only seems to do that on the Scale KB. The other KBs seem to not overlap.

@ka010 I noticed some weirdness in the scale menu. The last 4 scales are off. I think Spanish got switched with Maj Penta or something.
Maj Penta gives Spanish
Min Penta gives Maj Penta
Arabic gives Min Penta
Spanish gives Arabic

It seems like the Spanish mapped to the Maj Penta label, and bumped the following 3 scales, so that they give the scale type of the preceding label.

The other scales seem ok.

The developer confirmed this bug earlier, and said it would be fixed.

Good to know.

skulptur_sound

Anyone used this inside BM3?? How did it do?

wim

@skulptur_sound said:
Anyone used this inside BM3?? How did it do?

Humm...mixed results.

• As an AU midi FX, it worked well to play stuff. The full-screen AU display is good. But, since you can’t record the midi, not as useful as it could be. Route Midi app could be a workaround. Be sure to switch the pad you want to control to keys mode.
• I couldn’t find it as an IAA app until I located the icon next to “MIDI Sample n Hold”. But BM3 couldn’t load it.
• Tried it standalone, and it worked fine sending to BM3 once I remembered to enable the devices in BM3’s settings.

skulptur_sound

@wim said:

@skulptur_sound said:
Anyone used this inside BM3?? How did it do?

Humm...mixed results.

• As an AU midi FX, it worked well to play stuff. The full-screen AU display is good. But, since you can’t record the midi, not as useful as it could be. Route Midi app could be a workaround. Be sure to switch the pad you want to control to keys mode.
• I couldn’t find it as an IAA app until I located the icon next to “MIDI Sample n Hold”. But BM3 couldn’t load it.
• Tried it standalone, and it worked fine sending to BM3 once I remembered to enable the devices in BM3’s settings.

Bummer..

wim

@skulptur_sound said:

@wim said:

@skulptur_sound said:
Anyone used this inside BM3?? How did it do?

Humm...mixed results.

• As an AU midi FX, it worked well to play stuff. The full-screen AU display is good. But, since you can’t record the midi, not as useful as it could be. Route Midi app could be a workaround. Be sure to switch the pad you want to control to keys mode.
• I couldn’t find it as an IAA app until I located the icon next to “MIDI Sample n Hold”. But BM3 couldn’t load it.
• Tried it standalone, and it worked fine sending to BM3 once I remembered to enable the devices in BM3’s settings.

Bummer..

Except for the inability to record the notes from AUv3 without a workaround, it’s not all that bad is it? FWIW, BM3 is supposed to fix the AUv3 midi record issue at some point.