FINAL RESULTS: What are the Top Three Apps you wish you could master?

McDtracy

@LinearLineman said:
You didn't mention anything in your nearly indecipherable title that indicated I had to work for it.

I changed the title and still did not mention any T's and C's.
So, you won't paying the magical powers after all.

That changes everything.

Indeed. I have to find another sucker fast.

RC275

You are the Ninja on this one.

ISymphonic

Not too shabby with this one either.

My old Teac four track reel to reel

• RULES VIOLATION * No hardware devices! Please try again.
• (Do you still have that beast?).

1nsomniak

@McDtracy said:

@LinearLineman said:

I changed the title and still did not mention any T's and C's.

Oh that reminds me, I’ll start my list with TC-11 or really ...

1. TC Data - the one to go for in this hypothetical situation for its elaborate programmable interface...IRL I prefer TC-11 but I think Data does it all and more.

2. BM3 because it’s deep and I already understand my other daws. Also I’d hope some finger drumming skills would come during my mastery.

3. Aparillo for its unique sound design capabilities...then combine with a custom TC Data controller.

oat_phipps

I know everything I like in and out (though I’m no professional-level sound designer or producer). All the other stuff I’ve spent money on is just fodder I got good times out of a few times or the occasional utter crap. Not worth worrying about ‘learning’ them further because they didn’t offer me enough incentive or hint at a big enough reward to do so in the first place. I know everything that I need to to do what I do, and I can admit that I’ve wasted a lot of money on the App Store.

McDtracy

STANDINGS:
3 BM3
2 SunVox
2 Layr
2 Auria Pro
1 iVCS3
1 iSymphonic
1 Troublemaker
1 Tonestack
1 Tessitura
1 TC Data
1 SynthMaster1
1 Sunvox
1 Sunrizer
1 Sector
1 Samplr
1 Ravenscroft 275
1 RC275
1 NS2
1 MIDI
1 K Machine
1 Grooverider
1 Grooverider
1 GrooveRider GR-16
1 Gestrument pro
1 Gestrument Pro
1 GarageBand
1 Gadget
1 FieldScaper
1 FabFilters
1 DrumPerfect Pro
1 Different Drummer
1 Dhalang MG
1 Cubasis
1 Cream
1 C++/dsp coding
1 Bias FX
1 Beatmaker 3
1 BeatHawk
1 Audulus
1 AudioLayer
1 AudioLayer
1 AudioKit D1
1 Aparillo
1 Amplitube

Masanga

Looks like Groove Rider and SunVox are actually sharing the lead…

LinearLineman

@McDtracy , RC275 has two votes, tho I am not sure why. I chose it cause I am lazy. Not very much to master. Same with iSymph. No, the four track was given away along with a Crumar string synth and a prophet 5. So, my final list following your stringent regs...

Cubasis ( would love to know it all, but again, too lazy
RC275
ISymphonic (all Inapps and fantasizing it would work properly as anAU)

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hellquist

Well, my top list pretty much confirm the current top list:

• BM3 (which still is sort of a mystery to me on how to do simple things in)
• SunVox (I have always wished to master it but somehow I never allow myself the time to do so)
• LayR - Not because it is overly complicated on a layer level, the separate synth layers are pretty basic, but because I don't think "deep enough" when I create sounds in it. Like Brice does. That thing to be able to connect "hey, so I create separate layers for the plucky sound, I'll add a really long shimmering delayed tail on a panned set of layers in the middle, and combine it all with the keys sound I did yesterday" etc. My brain sort of forgets, or doesn't think in ways that fully utilises the incredible power in it, which again is demonstrated in Brices performances. But I'll get there one day.

tk32

Thanks @McDtracy and everyone who has replied - this has been a genuinely interesting read (and great idea for a thread)

Perhaps I can see the future, because several months ago I started writing a complete guide to BM3:

(draft cover design)

I've grown to love BM3 over the last 18 months, and my hope is that this guide will help the large number of less-experienced users out here who clearly see the power and potential of BM3, but are put off by it's complexity and often confusing samplist-centric approach.

With any luck, it should be available in PDF (free), Kindle (cheap) and nicely-bound Print (reasonable price) this February

I promise to post the complete contents, and information about getting a copy, once I finish writing the guide in the next few weeks

ExAsperis99

Wait. I really don’t understand what is being asked here. What does “with summary standings” mean? Are these the top 3 apps that need serious tutorials?

BitterGums

@ExAsperis99 said:
Wait. I really don’t understand what is being asked here. What does “with summary standings” mean? Are these the top 3 apps that need serious tutorials?

i was really confused too. I must have read the title 4 or 5 times, looked at the comments and again at the title before i understood it [i think] ...something like:

Name 3 apps that require a fair bit of training before you understand them. * included are the results

LinearLineman

@BitterGums, a belated happy New Year to you. I would combine all titles to come up with... what three apps would you put the necessary work into to become a Ninja master at it? Did I finally get it @McDtracy? Next time write it in Turkish, more will understand.

Philandering_Bastard

@tk32 said:
Thanks @McDtracy and everyone who has replied - this has been a genuinely interesting read (and great idea for a thread)

Perhaps I can see the future, because several months ago I started writing a complete guide to BM3:

(draft cover design)

I've grown to love BM3 over the last 18 months, and my hope is that this guide will help the large number of less-experienced users out here who clearly see the power and potential of BM3, but are put off by it's complexity and often confusing samplist-centric approach.

With any luck, it should be available in PDF (free), Kindle (cheap) and nicely-bound Print (reasonable price) this February

I promise to post the complete contents, and information about getting a copy, once I finish writing the guide in the next few weeks

Drool. Count me in for getting a hard copy.

McDtracy

@Masanga said:
Looks like Groove Rider and SunVox are actually sharing the lead…

Thanks for catching the errors.
The Unix tools I used didn't do the right pattern matching. I used:

cat file_of_top3s | sort | uniq -c | sort -r | tee numbered_list_file

Then I copied the list as you see it. It was 3AM and I was not being rigorous.
I'll fix it in the next summary.

brambos

@tk32 that’s awesome! Will it have a foreword by Mathieu Garcia?

tk32

@brambos said:
@tk32 that’s awesome! Will it have a foreword by Mathieu Garcia?

Of course

McDtracy

@ExAsperis99 said:
Wait. I really don’t understand what is being asked here. What does “with summary standings” mean? Are these the top 3 apps that need serious tutorials?

Sorry. "What are the Top Three Apps you wish you could master?"

I changed the title after I got a lot of input and posted the summary so people would re-visit to see the results. I'll put the question into the first comment.

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ExAsperis99

@McDtracy said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
Wait. I really don’t understand what is being asked here. What does “with summary standings” mean? Are these the top 3 apps that need serious tutorials?

Sorry. "What are the Top Three Apps you wish you could master?"

I changed the title after I got a lot of input and posted the summary so people would re-visit to see the results. I'll put the question into the first comment.

Thank you!
Great topic.
Moog Model 15
Xequence
Rozeta Suite

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ExAsperis99

Ha, that’s kind of funny. I wrote Xequence when I meant GR-16. But Is still like to know it better. It’s not totally obvious.

McDtracy

@tja said:
Xequence ist mostly self explaining, i would say.
Nothing to „master“, or?

I feel Quantum to be more complicated, but i choose already 3 Apps.

You can play twice. If you include the instructions to remove the prior three I will do that in the summary.

BitterGums

@LinearLineman said:
@BitterGums, a belated happy New Year to you. I would combine all titles to come up with... what three apps would you put the necessary work into to become a Ninja master at it? Did I finally get it @McDtracy? Next time write it in Turkish, more will understand.

To you as well! thanks

also, i'm in the same boat as you ...if i could cheat and only pick one (thing) : midi

Will

1. SunVox
2. TC-Data
3. Quantum

Where "master" means: I know I can do X, Y and/or Z in the app and there's no amount of "wait, huh??" between that thought and actually doing it.

I know Quantum pretty well but there are still times where I have to head scratch to actualize things. If pressed, I might replace that one with BM3.

supadom

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McDtracy

FINAL RESULT TOTALS
Apps Forum Members want to learn in depth
Trainers "Start Your Engines"

6 Beatmaker 3
6 SunVox
4 GrooveRider GR-16
3 Ravenscroft 275
2 iSymphonic
2 TC-Data
2 Layr
2 Gestrument Pro
2 Cubasis
2 Auria Pro
2 AudioLayer
1 iVCS3
1 Xequence
1 Turnado
1 Troublemaker
1 Tonestack
1 Tessitura
1 SynthMaster1
1 Sunrizer
1 Sector
1 Samplr
1 Rozeta Suite
1 Quantum
1 NS2
1 Moog Model 15
1 MIDI
1 Layr
1 K Machine
1 GarageBand
1 Gadget
1 FieldScaper
1 FabFilters
1 DrumPerfect Pro
1 Different Drummer
1 Dhalang MG
1 Cream
1 C++/dsp coding
1 Bias FX
1 BeatHawk
1 Audulus
1 AudioKit D1
1 Aparillo
1 Amplitube

SheffieldBleep

Sunvox
Moog Model 15
BM3
IVCS3

Of the 3 Sunvox intrigues me the most but all that hexadecimal business!

Jocphone

@SheffieldBleep said:
Sunvox
Moog Model 15
BM3
IVCS3

Of the 3 Sunvox intrigues me the most but all that hexadecimal business!

Hexadecimal is easy..

LeonLeroy

ivcs3 for sure. That thing is insane.

Beatmaker is the easiest, complex app of all—and i am no production expert. but it really is totally logical to me.

the apesoft apps, are just a bit mess to me but i know they are powerful.

Grooverider is confusing. I know how powerful and popular it is. i just dont think i like grooveboxes.

SheffieldBleep

@Jocphone said:

@SheffieldBleep said:
Sunvox
Moog Model 15
BM3
IVCS3

Of the 3 Sunvox intrigues me the most but all that hexadecimal business!

Hexadecimal is easy..

Love it