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The winners had a better class of lie. That’s democracy
If the vote was to be democratic and not a con, then a fully detailed plan should have been in place that demonstrated exactly how everything would be better than the status quo, or not, so the public knew exactly what they were voting for and could make an informed decision. As it is, three years later there still isn't one that Parliament can agree on. What everyone agrees on - even the hardcore no-deal headbangers, is that whatever option we go for, everything will be slightly worse off.
If someone said to you - "do you want to swap your current iPad for another iPad", what would you do? Say yes, or no? You don't get to know what you're swapping it for, just 'an iPad'.
Say you think to yourself - yeah why not, my Air 2 is a bit long in the tooth, let's go for it.
And they take your Air 2, and replace it with a first generation brick.
Happy with that?
Say someone said to you - "do you want to swap your current iPad for another iPad", but you decide the risk is too great,, and instead you decide to stick with your Air 2.
They still take your Air 2, and replace it with a first generation brick.
Still happy? Is that democratic? Because 50% of voters are going to be stuck with a brick we never voted for.
That's all they need to know is it? Nothing about...oh I don't know, trade deals, database sharing, environmental protection, employment law, tax legislation, healthcare supply chains etc...just 'EU'?
@Max23
Maybe one day you will grow a soul, and get to experience compassion for once.
Bring on the trolls!
It lost the vote by a extremely narrow margin.
Sorry, bub.
See?
Problem solved, people.
Just un-fuck your life.
So simple.
I would love if this were true. It saddens me that my children’s opportunity to do this will be somewhat curtailed
and we.. for yours
BS referendum ain't democracy. Its more like pulling petals off a daisy while saying 'loves me, loves me not'.
Anyway, don't get me started on democracy.
Which half would that be?.... Poland?...
The other half is here with me in Cyprus, some in France & Spain/Portugal, ect.. . They left the UK because of what’s going on in UK... Still, out of it, when I was in the UK, I managed to learn a bit of Russian & Polish, on the construction site (as I’m a Bench Joiner/Carpenter back then)... Its not all bad.. Now I’m learning Greek...
Never underestimate the power of stupidity. Whatever the (racial cultural) resentment the Brexit folks fired up, worked here in the US as well. One could say since it’s relatively the same cabal (lots of the same players w the same connections) that it was planned. (Cough, Putin)
Same, same is going on in Italy.
No one ever blames economic and judicial disparity on the fact that people have legislated rules to be in their favor and excluding access by others.
Us vs them
But there is no them, except those who have you believe that “the other” is the problem and not the selfsame people stacking the deck.
I don’t believe polish nationals were voting mate. I do get the joke though. Enjoy Greece.
I seem to recall that the UK fought wars and many gave their lives to not be ruled by authoritarians and extremely questionable types in the previous century, so it's only plain common sense that the people of the UK would not want to be ruled by snobby authoritarians and morally bankrupt Euroheads in 2019 either.
Screw the EU, and that's my opinion on this whole matter, and the sooner the UK officially leaves that disgusting lot, the better. I dream of the day that the entire EU collapses.
I'm American, and I'm not from the UK, so I didn't get to cast any vote in this whole matter. The people of the UK have made their choice, which was to leave, and I support that choice.
You'll be aware we'll be ruled by a bunch of corrupt, authoritarian, inbred old Etonians once we leave - yeah? And that they'll be trashing lots of really useful laws and protection that we currently get from the EU yeah? And that what this really is about - is leaving the EU before the offshore tax rules kick in. Yeah?
The American-UK alliance has always been strong, and I can see us in the future sometime fighting together against the EU army that they're hoping and dreaming of creating.
We will just have to kick butt together again, as we have done in the past, and the outcome won't be too pretty for the other side. We stopped the Germans before, and if we have to stop the Germans and a few other clowns that hang out in Brussels today, if they get too rowdy and too bold, then we shall do so.
your displaying the same sort if ‘closet’ racism that half the LEAVE voters displayed, the heads of the EU display every time they fail to acknowledge that leaving the EU was a ( however ILL informed and manipulated and brought about by their own silly inflexibility ) DEMOCRATIC vote by, essentially, their own constituents and most of all displayed by pretty much all of the european media coverage of the debacle.
stupidity IS trotting out other peoples opinions about other peoples opinions about other peoples opinions. Being bullied as a child and retreated into yrself doesn’t make you intelligent Max darling.. just unempathetic. Your country has 5 million voting Afd and a devout Christian ( remember their history? ) as a leader and you imagine yr on the intelligent side of the channel?
I say all this with a great love and affection for the German people who have been my friends, collaborators and saviours since aprox 1992. Change is in motion, the outcome will probably not help me in any way at all, quite the opposite, and yet, strangely, I welcome it.
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What about the other part about avoiding taxes? You only quoted a section of my post and missed the most important issue. Ask your friends about their investment portfolio.
This is why the world is how it is. Over and out. Off to Beepstreet Drambo thread. See ya!
more than half the village has voted to pull down the Public Gallows!!
grrr, now where are my kids going to swing on a saturday afternoon?