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yeah this seems to be a bug for me, edit: no it does work but the patterns can be very insensitive to touch, sometimes need to press it many times.
Nice, thanks @Poppadocrock, definitely looks quick to work with!
Thanks @royor. I’m guessing you’d need to use more than one track pointed at the same instrument in different octaves to be able to play synths and such. One octave is rather limiting.
How does it compare to DigiKeys?. Ideally I’d like to sequence all instruments from the same sequencer: drums, bass, synth... and be able to do song mode and switch patterns (song parts) at once. I just got started with DigiKeys, but Octachron’s UI looks (a lot) better.
Ochtachron is starting to look very tasty!
Re: X0X - it’s killer feature that I don’t think this can replicate is the Mutation feature. Other sequencers have probability of a sound being played on the step where it’s programmed but X0X Mutation shifts that randomness to other possible steps. I love this feature.
This is true. Same with all the Rozeta generators.
Just got this after listening to @Krupa’s new piece using it. @reinerspass /anyone: Can someone explain what the Shift and Spanner icons do? They seem to just pop up the same dialogs as long pressing? Also, is there any way to easily transpose a copied pattern? I had sort of expected an option in the copy/paste menu to just be able to shift the newly copied pattern up or down by semitones. Likewise, I thought that ‘shift’ might let you rotate the start beat of the pattern...? I love the immediacy of this app, ratcheting etc, but it could really become more than just a drum pattern maker with a couple of features um, ‘borrowed’ from the likes of @brambos...
I’ve been wondering that about the shift / spanners too.. I think the notes are set with the pattern though... one thing that would be great would be a global parameter edit as while it’s probably perfect for drums as is, with notes it’s a bit of a pain... shuffling patterns would be nice too, but it’s easy enough copying and pasting. I did get a few stuck notes from time to time, mainly with Lorentz so it might just be that app.
It’s definitely great how immediate it is, I should probably do more sequencing with drambo in a similar fashion too as it’s got similar immediacy with a bit more depth I guess...
Oh the other thing that would be great is if the transport rewind would affect what pattern you’re in rather than just the place in the current patter (in song mode anyway), as I got caught out when trying to record out a few times with different instances starting on different patterns... but very very useful, and universal would work a treat I think!
Hey there,
thank you all very much for your feedback, that's very valuable for us.
I am Tas and I am helping Markus (@reinerspass) a with research, concepts and communication for Octachron a bit. I also helped concepting the last update.
Because we don't want to do tracking within the app as you might have noticed we now integrated a very short 6 question survey into the app to make it better, where you can also ask for new feautures
If you missed it but still would like to answer, here it is again:
https://teufel.typeform.com/to/iqxnnH
That helps us very much to make Octachron even better.
So thanks again for your support and passion for Octachron and the very nice conversion here.
Looking very forward for your feedback.
Cheers
Tas
Hey @Svetlovska,
the Shift-Button like on a computer keyboard is used to call up additional functions.
On the left side it shows the connected MIDI notes and for the song patterns it shows the spanner. When you click on this you get the pattern menu. Just as if you do a long press.
Please tell us if you have further questions or suggestions
Thank you very much
Tas
Done!
I admit I forgot about the questions when the update came up 😳
Thank you very much
Hi @Gavinski , I answer here so everybody gets the answer. Hope this is ok for you. Unfortunately we didn't have time to write a manual yet and I must admit I don't know that yet either.
But @reinerspass, could you please explain here briefly how to use ratchets and p-locks please.
Thank you very much
Tas
Heyo @Gavinski,
P-Locks
Basically are a way to set parameter properties on a step level, basically allowing change the value of MIDI-CC parameters, trigger probability or velocity per step.
How is this useful?
When programming a hi-hat you may want to add accents to humanise and have it less static. Using the parameter locks you can change the velocity per step. And this also works 8 MIDI CC parameters per voice. So if you for example use octachron together with ruismaker you can change all parameters (decay, volume, delay) per step from octachron.
Racheting
This allows to sub divid one step in to multiple (2, 3, 4). With this feature, from one 1/16th note you can make two 2/32th notes
How is this useful?
A feature like this is used for rolls often used in certain hip hop styles. But you can achieve a lot more with it.
Hope that was helpful.
Cheers
Markus
Thanks! Yeah, I noticed this after I wrote to you. I hadn't noticed the little drop down menu on the bottom left, thanks for the reply anyway. Definitely try to get round to writing a manual soon, it's a lovely interface but some things are not noticeable at first glance.
These are my favorite features of Octachron.
Yes, killer features, this is a really good app. I’d love to see it expanded into something more suitable for melodic sequencing for sure too
@Gavinski cykle is a good companion to Octachron's approach for melodic sequencing.
But I would really love randomization features in this app like x0x - for example - has.
Yes, randomization would be great.
I really struggled picking the features I wanted from the choices in the questionnaire as all of them were desirable, it’s really nice to use as is, but I’d love to push it more...
It's always the same, no app does everything. Now after trying this, I wish that x0x had these kind of p locking features for panning etc haha
I would keep the app, just for drum sequencing...we have Atom for melodic lines
True
Also a fair point
I’m
Can Atom do pattern switching like Octachron?.
No, well the old Atom, the one out already, you can run multiple instances, but each one is a single piano roll. The new Atom that has yet to be released, who knows....
I think the new Atom will do that...( not completely sure)
The old Atom does...if you are dexterous? You can pre-launch a pattern while another pattern is playing. It won't start until it reaches the end of a set number of bars (provided the new and old patterns are the same length). Then deselect the pattern you want to stop playing at the right moment.
It's not hard to do, but I only ever need to toggle between two patterns.
But it can be done.
Hi Tas. Thanks for being here!
Little thought... For English speakers anyway, “Shift” already has a specific meaning with regard to step sequencers. Maybe change this label to “ALT” or “Function” or something to minimize confusion?
Hey @syrupcore ,
thank you very much for the hint. Actually I thought about that as well. I will discuss ist with Markus
Best Tas
Hey everybody,
thank you very much for answering our little survey.
Until now over 130 people have answered it, that helps us very much
We thought you might as well be interested in the outcome of it so I post this little summery of it:
We really will consider this and new features are already in the making.
We hope we can ship our next update pretty soon.
For the ones who didn't answer it yet, you can still do it here.
)
(But then check the outcome afterwards to not get influenced by it in the first place
https://teufel.typeform.com/to/iqxnnH
Thx for being such a nice and supportive community.
Stay tuned and all the Best
Tas