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whoa! out NOW! Sugar Bytes Factory - Modular Synthesizer for iOS

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  • AtticusLAtticusL

    @tk32 said:
    My top tip for learning this synth is to try deconstructing some of the preset patches.

    My current favourite way to do this is move the morph slider to B, hit the B-mode record button then completely clear all the mod-matrix settings so that you can see how the patch was routed before any matrix modulations were applied.

    Once you've understood the underlying sound you can gradually move the morph slider back towards A to hear the effect of the matrix settings as they are gently re-introduced into the patch.

    That’s a great tip, cheers.

  • tk32tk32
    edited May 2019

    @reasOne @AtticusL

    Just remember to remove modulations one-by-one (you can do this quickly by double-tapping each of the blue/pink orbs) instead of using the 'clear all modulations' button .

    Warning: if you use the clear all modulations button (top right corner) this also clears them for version A

  • rs2000rs2000

    Last year, I've asked SB to release Factory on iOS because its UI must be be great on iPad and now they just did it.
    Wow. <3 B) :smiley:

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    SB is like Michael Jackson in the mid 80s, churning out great hit after great hit.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    All I need now is Obscurium to complete the set...

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear
    edited May 2019

    @MonzoPro said:
    All I need now is Obscurium to complete the set...

    I'm not a big Emily subscriber but in this case:

    Hope is the thing with feathers
    That perches in the soul
    And sings the tune without the words
    And never stops at all.
    ― Emily Dickinson

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @MonzoPro said:
    All I need now is Obscurium to complete the set...

    I’m not sure if Obscurium is a feasible prospect on iOS. Isn’t it a VST host, using other VST generators as sound sources alongside its own? We know that an AU host cannot (yet) be hosted itself. So unless this changes, or if Sugar Bytes omit this feature in the iOS version, I can’t see SB porting Obscurium. :'(

  • Ripper7620Ripper7620

    @Zjenji said:

    @Ripper7620 said:
    Although I was initially very impressed with this synth, atm, I’m having trouble getting along with the UI. I come from a pc background, and in iOS, the UI of apps are usually of a very creative nature, which is really cool, but I’m so used to dials and sliders, I’m not totally feeling it atm. I’m spending a lot of time tweaking sounds, and very little time actually laying down sounds that are usable. Some of the UI’s have very small elements, that for me, it’s difficult to dial in, because I keep hitting the wrong things.

    Having an Apple Pencil has sure helped me deal with small dials. Not sure if that’s an option for you, but if it is, give it a try.

    Thank you for your reply, that’s not a bad idea, ironically, Job’s hated the idea of a pencil or stylus, but it’s a great tool.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    I think they'll port Obscurium at some point, the vst hosting thing can always be achieved via midi as it's just a quick way of doing it without having to set it up manually via a separate track. Plus the standalone version will be able to host AUs like Thesys now can. :)

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I'm not a big Emily subscriber but in this case:

    Hope is the thing with feathers
    That perches in the soul
    And sings the tune without the words
    And never stops at all.
    ― Emily Dickinson

    Wonderful verse.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited May 2019

    @Beathoven said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    All I need now is Obscurium to complete the set...

    I’m not sure if Obscurium is a feasible prospect on iOS. Isn’t it a VST host, using other VST generators as sound sources alongside its own? We know that an AU host cannot (yet) be hosted itself. So unless this changes, or if Sugar Bytes omit this feature in the iOS version, I can’t see SB porting Obscurium. :'(

    Dunno, it could trigger MIDI like Aphelion, plus it has built in synths. UI would work...I reckon it’s a possibility ;)

    I’m not greedy though, Factory will keep me busy for a while :)

  • iamspooniamspoon
    edited May 2019

    Anyone know how/if you can save the MIDI CC bindings globally ?
    At the moment, If I assign a control with MIDI learn the settings are lost when I change patch.
    Thanks

  • JocphoneJocphone

    @iamspoon said:
    Anyone know how/if you can save the MIDI CC bindings globally ?
    At the moment, If I assign a control with MIDI learn the settings are lost when I change patch.
    Thanks

    From the manual.

    MIDI:
    Provides Factorys MIDI settings:

    • CC Map:This function provides load and save of MIDI controller mappings independent of a sound preset. Click the folder/disk symbols to open your computers file browser and save resp. select and load the desired CC map.

• CC Preset Isolate: With the minus symbol visible, a preset will be loaded together with its associated controller mapping. When the check is placed, the selected (CC Isolate enabled), the preset will be loaded without its associated controller mapping. The currently active controller mapping remains active and – if desired – can be replaced by using the „CC Map“ load/save function
  • iamspooniamspoon

    @Jocphone thanks, somehow I missed that. RTFM.
    Seems like a confusing description but I think I get it!

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    Hope is a rat with wings

    (No, I don't believe that)

  • JocphoneJocphone

    @iamspoon said:
    @Jocphone thanks, somehow I missed that. RTFM.
    Seems like a confusing description but I think I get it!

    Overall the manual is pretty good but yeah I understand how that one could pass someone by.

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    @Beathoven said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    All I need now is Obscurium to complete the set...

    I’m not sure if Obscurium is a feasible prospect on iOS. Isn’t it a VST host, using other VST generators as sound sources alongside its own? We know that an AU host cannot (yet) be hosted itself. So unless this changes, or if Sugar Bytes omit this feature in the iOS version, I can’t see SB porting Obscurium. :'(

    If that was a dealbreaker for iOS version, the VST hosting feature could be removed if there was a robust MIDI out instead (which there may already be but it's not a feature I ever used on the desktop version).

  • AnisignerAnisigner

    Factory has many interesting options. Maybe I'll construct a midi controller, if I have enough time. A version might look like this.

  • brambosbrambos

    @Anisigner said:
    Factory has many interesting options. Maybe I'll construct a midi controller, if I have enough time. A version might look like this.

    Nice! And ambitious :p

  • JesJes
    edited May 2019

    is there a tempo dial in the standalone version ?
    Buggered if I can find it ...
    Or is tempo only set in the au host or something?

  • MonkeyDrummerMonkeyDrummer
    edited May 2019

    @Anisigner said:
    Factory has many interesting options. Maybe I'll construct a midi controller, if I have enough time. A version might look like this.

    Looks more well thought out than a lot of Kickstarter campaigns! 😝

  • JesJes

    @Jes said:
    is there a tempo dial in the standalone version ?
    Buggered if I can find it ...
    Or is tempo only set in the au host or something?

    Anyone???

  • _ki_ki
    edited May 2019

    @Jes I searched in the settings of the standalone and checked the manual - but also could not find a tempo setting for the internal clock.

    As a work-around you could enable Ableton Link for Factory standalone, then change the tempo from another launched link-enabled app and quit that other app.

  • erosseross

    any idea if this will come to iphone eventually?

  • JesJes

    @_ki said:
    @Jes I searched in the settings of the standalone and checked the manual - but also could not find a tempo setting for the internal clock.

    As a work-around you could enable Ableton Link for Factory standalone, then change the tempo from another launched link-enabled app and quit that other app.

    Thanks for your reply.
    Yes, I think its a bit strange that there is a choice of internal and external clocks but no way of changing the internal one.
    Sometimes I just wanna keep it simple and open an app and just use it. Being able to change the tempo of a synth with a sequencer and arp is a pretty basic requirement.
    Sure, Link with another app is an option. But it seems that hosting as an au is the only way to change tempo at will. Its kinda weird.

  • StudioESStudioES

    This last video tutorial was an eye-opener for creating generative self-playing patches:

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @ocelot said:
    This last video tutorial was an eye-opener for creating generative self-playing patches:

    Thanks for this!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @ocelot said:
    This last video tutorial was an eye-opener for creating generative self-playing patches:

    Thanks, I’ll have to try this out - really good video, and an amazing synth.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    I learned several things from that video so thx for pointing it out. This synth is so deep that it's become one of those "hey dummy, you need to concentrate and really master this beast" apps for me.

    Oh and sugar bytes can do no wrong these days!

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    This thing is great! Wish he shared that preset on the video it is so nice!

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