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Teenage Engineering OP-Z

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    @EyeOhEss
    I mean look at this photo man...

    I didn’t touched this equipment for months!
    Because of the iPads, OP-Z‘s, Deluges... 😎👍

    There is no question what is better in terms of soundquality or capability. I use, what I enjoy and gives me fun.

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    OP-Z can it techno?
    Yes it can!

    It’s not my music style but this guy did a 20 Minute session what inspired me.
    This shows what the sequencer can do. If you don't like the sounds you can use iPad synths... 😎

    Even better and no techno, a great performance but with the deluge!
    This is more my music! I think you will like it @echoopera 😊👍

  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:
    Waiting for link to some music from @EyeOhEss

    Why?

    Would you expect a food critic to come round and make you a sandwich? ;) should I expect to hear your music just because you liked/disliked someone else’s? Opinion isn’t a competition....

    I don’t share unfinished music. And finished music goes elsewhere.

    Where does the finished music go?

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  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:
    Waiting for link to some music from @EyeOhEss

    Why?

    Would you expect a food critic to come round and make you a sandwich? ;) should I expect to hear your music just because you liked/disliked someone else’s? Opinion isn’t a competition....

    I don’t share unfinished music. And finished music goes elsewhere.

    Where does the finished music go?

    Walkies

    Hey man it's cool, you certainly aren't the first person on the internet shit all over someone else's art and refuse to back it up with their own. There are thousands upon thousands of you. It takes guts to share one's art, some people just don't have that.

  • It's not about which compositional tools you use, it's about what you do with them.
    Starting to argue about which is the best will usually end up in a somewhat meaningless dispute because these are very much chosen by personal taste.

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    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:
    Waiting for link to some music from @EyeOhEss

    Why?

    Would you expect a food critic to come round and make you a sandwich? ;) should I expect to hear your music just because you liked/disliked someone else’s? Opinion isn’t a competition....

    I don’t share unfinished music. And finished music goes elsewhere.

    Where does the finished music go?

    Walkies

    Hey man it's cool, you certainly aren't the first person on the internet shit all over someone else's art and refuse to back it up with their own. There are thousands upon thousands of you. It takes guts to share one's art, some people just don't have that.

    Sorry but like I said, Opinion isn’t a competition. I don’t need to show you my art in order to have an opinion about someone else’s. And maybe you should go Tour and release records for review before you talk about having some guts in terms of putting yourself out there for criticism. Someone just dropping a link on YouTube or a forum is nothing. It’ll generally just be ignored or circle jerked......you’re being naive AF.

    I've done both. What record did you release? Where did you tour and under what name?

    This is another tactic of the internet troll critic: no direct answers, only oblique references to lofty accomplishments.

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    @eddielovesyou said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:
    Waiting for link to some music from @EyeOhEss

    Why?

    Would you expect a food critic to come round and make you a sandwich? ;) should I expect to hear your music just because you liked/disliked someone else’s? Opinion isn’t a competition....

    I don’t share unfinished music. And finished music goes elsewhere.

    Where does the finished music go?

    Walkies

    Hey man it's cool, you certainly aren't the first person on the internet shit all over someone else's art and refuse to back it up with their own. There are thousands upon thousands of you. It takes guts to share one's art, some people just don't have that.

    Sorry but like I said, Opinion isn’t a competition. I don’t need to show you my art in order to have an opinion about someone else’s. And maybe you should go Tour and release records for review before you talk about having some guts in terms of putting yourself out there for criticism. Someone just dropping a link on YouTube or a forum is nothing. It’ll generally just be ignored or circle jerked......you’re being naive AF.

    I've done both. What record did you release? Where did you tour and under what name?

    I’m very interested too! 😎

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  • I’m really impressed with the Squarp since I got it.

    The Step video for the OP-Z was the first one I saw that made me think it had a few cool features.

    Personally I need a screen.

    But I’m put off by the ugly Deluge screen and knobs.

    Both devices have a lot of fans, and maybe I could be converted if I got my hands on either.

    For now though, the Squarp is just awesome for my workflow.

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    @EyeOhEss said:
    Yeah Eddie, what record did you release and under which name?

    And while you’re at it, what’s your D.O.B, address and shoe size. You have to let us know this stuff if we’re going to allow you to have an opinion on something.

    Kommst du langsam ins trudeln? Gehen Dir die Argumente aus @EyeOhEss ?
    Ich würde ja den Ball flach halten... 😎

    Deutsche Redensart

    Peace! 🙏

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    I’m really impressed with the Squarp since I got it.

    The Step video for the OP-Z was the first one I saw that made me think it had a few cool features.

    Personally I need a screen.

    But I’m put off by the ugly Deluge screen and knobs.

    Both devices have a lot of fans, and maybe I could be converted if I got my hands on either.

    For now though, the Squarp is just awesome for my workflow.

    The best part of this statement is that you found a solution which works for your workflow. It’s a good time to be alive if you ask me. Lots of great tools and instruments out there to have fun with. 🙏🏼💕

  • @eddielovesyou said:
    Waiting for link to some music from @EyeOhEss :: Ha Ha, don’t count on it ..

  • @chandroji : Well said there! Is the deluge sequencer a bread and butter/efficiency type affair or does it have some of that wonderful midi warping to be found in the OPZ?

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    @echoopera : I think that might have been you after all who posted that (OP-Z video by red recording whatever

  • @eddielovesyou : I dunno, something just tells me that this guy doesn’t have 1/10th the talent that echopera does. This guy’s all bluster. Just seemed to get out of the wrong side of the bed today.

  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @chandroji said:
    OP-Z can it techno?
    Yes it can!

    It’s not my music style but this guy did a 20 Minute session what inspired me.
    This shows what the sequencercan do...

    Even better and no techno, a great performance but with the deluge!
    This is more my music! I think you will like it @echoopera 😊👍

    https://m.youtube.com/watch

    That OP-Z would be a beast if you just copied the midi and had a more capable synth a d drum sampler playing it . That is really impressive . The deluge video was tops of course . Remember that the sampling option in TZ1 is forthcoming

  • I am very happy with the ignore button.

  • @EyeOhEss said:

    @eddielovesyou said:
    Waiting for link to some music from @EyeOhEss

    Why?

    Would you expect a food critic to come round and make you a sandwich? ;) should I expect to hear your music just because you liked/disliked someone else’s? Opinion isn’t a competition....

    I don’t share unfinished music. And finished music goes elsewhere.

    @EyeOhEss said:

    @echoopera said:
    I love my OP-Z. I use it as a sequencer for iOS and desktop. Here’s a recent track from my new album where i used the OP-Z as the main sequencer:

    And another track I’m quite fond of:

    And lastly, here’s a great video with an overview of the step components:

    No offence but these tracks kinda proves my point. If someone wants to make a track in an hour or a day or two just to have one or two hundred fleeting listens/views, or just amuse themselves, op-z is perfect. If someone wants to make something intricate that isn’t reliant on the cheap tricks of a tiny soulless piece of plastic, and something with longevity that people will want to return to and that they can engrave themselves in to without tedious workarounds and compromise....look elsewhere ;)

    Putting the words "no offence " followed in front of borderline insulting language doesn't actually excuse a needlessly harsh verging on insulting post.

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there are ways of expressing disagreement without being cruel.

  • @espiegel123 : Exactly . “No offense “ but you suck”... lol
    Some people ...

  • @Telstar5 be sure to check out the reviews from Loopop on YouTube. He does a good job of reviewing some of the gear mentioned in this thread.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-RA5BzE_BnZhf5iVdNF1hA

  • @echoopera said:
    @Telstar5 be sure to check out the reviews from Loopop on YouTube. He does a good job of reviewing some of the gear mentioned in this thread.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-RA5BzE_BnZhf5iVdNF1hA

    Loopop and Cuckoo are my favorite reviewers on YouTube.
    They don't hesitate to go into depth and in their video reviews, they usually answer all the questions I'm asking myself before purchasing new music equipment.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I am very happy with the ignore button.

    +1

  • I find that most of the criticism of the OP-Z comes from folks who haven't used them. They usually focus on the lack of a screen, the little buttons, and the bloopy sounds.

    It reminds me a little of when the iPhone first appeared, with no hardware keyboard. Or the iPad, which isn't for "real work."

    Changing the sounds is easy, and the built-in ones are actually pretty great. And who really uses the presets of any piece of gear except to get started?

    I find I love the little keys. Chords are easy. If you want more, hook up a midi keyboard! Keystep is awesome with the OP-Z.

    As for the lack of a screen, I prefer to call it "screen-free." Not having to switch attention between screen and hardware is nice. When I use iPad as a screen I find it to be a distraction. You can't complain about "kids today" not putting enough time or effort into their music, and then also not being able to understand the OP-Z's screen-free interface immediately.

    In use, the OP-Z interface is a marvel. It makes complete sense, and soon disappears. You really do have to try it before you criticize it.

    But above all, it's about the sequencer, which is amazing. Don't knock the 16 steps until you try them with step components. These aren't "workarounds." They are a genuine new way to work with sequencers, and one that makes a lot of sense to someone like me, who plays guitar or another instrument that isn't based on a step grid.

    And even for dedicated sequencer users it offers something new. It seems to me that much dance music (and music in general) takes an idea, and elaborates on it, before moving to a slightly different idea. That's exactly how the OP-Z sequencer works, only you can elaborate massively in a single pattern.

    To often we see complaints about new ideas in gear, because they aren't exactly the same as the old gear. If you don't like new ideas, that's cool. You don't have to buy it. But why whine about it, and piss on everybody else's chips?

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