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Thanks, mate!
Although, as of late, I guess I can't beta stuff
Have and iPad Mini 2 and ipod Touch 5, one in iOS 12 and the other is iOS 9 if I recall right
New beta update has some awesome features, freakin drag and drop midi chords, to and from other apps that support it. Awesome.
Glad you're enjoying it! Saw you uploading a few things to Patchstorage.
The Atom 2 dev has also said he'll implement better MIDI drop at some point, so you'll be able to drag chords back-to-back from Tonality onto the piano roll (rather than creating a new pattern each time like it does currently). No ETA though.
@Poppadocrock Oh also: what MIDI apps have you found that work with drag and drop? So far I've got Atom 2, Suggester, and ChordPadX. There must be others. GarageBand doesn't support it even though the documentation says it should... it would be really cool if it did.
v9.4 is available now! It includes MIDI drag-and-drop, strummable inversions, options for transposing instruments, and more.
My favorite new feature is the text entry for chord pads:
Super!
Question: (since you’ve added so much it’s hard to keep track) is there an option to auto advance or manually page to the next pad in order to play in midi from external sources / controllers? I know you can record midi but…
I’d like to be able to mess around with ChordMaps2 or similar and record the chords into pads without having to move back to Tonality and manually select the next pad every time.
@audiblevideo Definitely! You can use "foot-pedal mode" in the AUv3. When enabled, it exposes a ton of automation parameters including next pad, prev, up, down, first, last, etc.
Oh, just saw your edit. I see what you mean now. Currently that's not an option, but I can add it to my list! What does your current workflow look like that you have to move back to Tonality (i.e. is it not in an AU or slideover mode)?
@TonalityApp What a progress Tonality makes, it's really very special. Thanks, Bryce.
Yeah! Some really great updates lately, thank you. Question about playing live with a foot pedal: the latch mode generally works OK for this use case but there are times when I want to play a chord for a certain number of beats and the note off for latching creates A LOT of tap dancing around the foot pedal board. Is there any way to specify that I want to hold a chord for 2 beats or 3 beats or a whole measure and then stop without unlatching?
Please and thank you if it’s not to much. If I’m messing with the piano and dinking out chords I often do them in series and keep a flow and then work on an arrangement or performance. Same goes with external apps, several of which are not AU and don’t work well in slideover mode (old code or some dev preference). In addition slide over works like butt on my 10.5 iPad.
My ideal would be something that lets me plink until I like the chord which then gets printed to the pad when I “tab” move to the next chord. The moving would be midi controllable so I don’t have to switch apps. An auto expanding chord grid would be nice to. That way I don’t have to define the number of pads beforehand.
The app is still a daily driver so it’s not like I’ll stop using it.
Very welcome! Thanks for you continued support.
I definitely see how that could get annoying in live performance, especially if you're playing over top of it. I will add this to my list of features pertaining to host synchronization (since I assume you'd want the beats synced with AUM or similar).
Would it also be useful to have an option where tapping the foot pedal to move to the next chord holds that chord until you release the pedal? This might offer more flexibility in durations (and simplicity to implement), but may not be what you're after.
@audiblevideo Gotcha, makes sense. I will definitely add this to my list! Just no promises about a time frame (as always, my list is gigantic and some of the features I'm implementing now were added over a year ago). What's your preference as to which notes get counted when you "tab" forward? Only the currently held ones, or all which were played while that pad was "active", or something else? Which of the quick assign modes (note-off or manual) do you use currently?
Unrelated to all of this, but @cokomairena was requesting a mode which restricts chords to a single octave (in the COF, but potentially also the pads). Until I get around to that, here's a quick-and-dirty Mozaic script to force any input to a single octave starting with a note specified by knob 0.
Perhaps on that last point but it’s hard to say without doing an experiment on that. Here is why: space is a key piece of musicality, right? And the other thing is that musicians tend to be good at tapping their foot to the “one” of each bar. Now you are seizing on that last point with your suggestion but when doing something with our hands we sometimes forget that we are holding a chord with our feet! 😉
@lukesleepwalker Oh definitely! When I used to use a foot pedal more I would always find that problem. Even though it becomes second nature to release chords with your hands, doing so with your foot is more difficult. Still, with a bit of practice it could potentially be useful.
If by "space is a key piece of musicality, right" you're concerned about the ability to allow rests between chords, I would definitely find a way to allow that. I'm envisioning the process would be: a) hold down the pedal to advance and play the next chord until b) the pedal is released, from which point there is silence until c) the next chord plays/turns off similarly when you tap/release again
I'll try to remember to recruit you for testing if/when I get around to this.
Awesome! Thanks for considering it.
@TonalityApp I think I've got a small visual usability improvement.
When using 'strum on pads' it could be a good idea to show what 'chord' is being strummed?
The colors in the example are just a result of blending two images...
One additional improvement would be to increase the text-size of the 'chord name' and when it's show behind the strum pads make it transparent.
No need to priorities this but I feel it would be a worthwhile addition at some point in time.
Cheers!
/Samuel
@Samu Yes, good idea!
Finally added a tutorial mode and the update is now available! This should be even better than a manual: you can tap any button to learn what it does. To activate the tutorial, tap the question mark on the settings page or long press any tab at the bottom.
Cool, while I was messing around with the app I thought about yet another simple to add feature.
In 'edit mode' swipe down brings up the 'alter' option, right brings up 'extend'.
So a 'swipe left' could maybe bring up an option to preview all the inversions for a selected chord?
(The list could potentially get very long, depending on selected chord type).
And 'swipe up' would bring options to invert the chord within the current octave?
I do feel this would speed up the chord selection/editing compared to using the tool icons?
This also leads to other 'ideas' when created pads using 'scale chords'.
Ie. let us do the inversions at the 'preview stage' before creating the pads.
This 'idea' popped up when I tried the 'scale chords' feature in the stand alone app and thought, hmmm, why can't I simply swipe left/right on the chord to select the inversions and then dump them to chord pads.
I know you've got a loooooong, list of to-do's already and these might already be on it?
Cheers!
@Samu Yup, all on my list! I have vague plans for a completely revamped editing process with suggestions, voicing presets, etc.
@TonalityApp : The manual for Chordpads could use a mention of foot pedal mode and that its triggers are reached via AU parameters.
Definitely. Still (very slowly) working on the new manual, just a bit more busy with outside obligations than I have been in the past.
Definitely. Still (very slowly) working on the new manual, just a bit more busy with outside obligations than I have been in the past.
Definitely. Still (very slowly) working on the new manual, just a bit more busy with outside obligations than I have been in the past.> @AppJunky said:
Yup! Is it not working for you?
What part of Tonality and source app(s) were you dragging to and from?
Are you dragging onto the chord pads or into Drambo?
@AppJunky Does the dragging preview show up and just fail to load inside Drambo, or are you having trouble getting the little “ghost” drag preview to display at all?