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  • jolicojolico

    So, is this back to the normal price for Black Friday? :smiley:

  • jolicojolico

    So, lately I’ve been using it with barricade’s limiter. Sounds even better.

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse
    edited December 2019

    @jolico said:
    So, lately I’ve been using it with barricade’s limiter. Sounds even better.

    So how would you describe the better sound using barricade versus not? I haven’t purchased barricade yet because I thought the limiter on bark filter would be all the limiting I would need.

  • robertreynoldsrobertreynolds

    @NoiseHorse said:

    @jolico said:
    So, lately I’ve been using it with barricade’s limiter. Sounds even better.

    So how would you describe the better sound using barricade versus not? I haven’t purchased barricade yet because I thought the limiter on bark filter would be all the limiting I would need.

    I don’t really understand what this setting is actually doing from a technical perspective, but it pulls everything together, softening things a bit and making the sound more cohesive. It feels like writing it to vinyl or tape to me.

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    Fair enough, you just sold me on Barricade. Thanks again!

  • jolicojolico

    @NoiseHorse said:
    Fair enough, you just sold me on Barricade. Thanks again!

    Also the limiters in barricade are much cleaner than the limiter in Barkfilter.
    They make great combos together.
    Eg. Barricade-SubtleGlue into Barkfilter-Tripleband into Barricade-LimiterPrograms.

  • scarletjerryscarletjerry

    So, can I do my mix down in Logic X, then export it as an AIFF to my iPad, then run the song through Bark Filter with the secret sauce? Will that work? Or do I have to do everything on my iPad? I know that they make a desktop version of Bark, but it's much more expensive than the iOS app.

    Scarlet Jerry

  • jolicojolico

    @scarletjerry said:
    So, can I do my mix down in Logic X, then export it as an AIFF to my iPad, then run the song through Bark Filter with the secret sauce? Will that work? Or do I have to do everything on my iPad? I know that they make a desktop version of Bark, but it's much more expensive than the iOS app.

    Scarlet Jerry

    Yes, but always keep your original mix-downs.

  • jolicojolico
    edited January 2020

    Bump.

    May Tripleband bring you joy in 2020. :smiley:

  • iammaneiammane

    triplebandcrew

  • jolicojolico

    This is a great companion to Tripleband: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stereo-width-control/id1493044617

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    Dude you’re killing me with the app arsenal I’m using to get my projects finalized. But honestly if I can squeeze multiband compression, equalization, stereo spread by band, and limiting out of 3 AU’s in my DAW, I’m happy.

  • iOSTRAKONiOSTRAKON

    Just watched @thesoundtestroom demo this. Might have to pick it up

    @jolico said:
    This is a great companion to Tripleband: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stereo-width-control/id1493044617

  • McDMcD

    I could stand it anymore... I told somebody. They didn't seem to care. Go figure.
    It was the guy that came out to unclog the toilet.

    He said: I prefer tapes. Old School. I bought one of his cassettes. Nice mix. Good pipes.

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @McD said:
    I could stand it anymore... I told somebody. They didn't seem to care. Go figure.
    It was the guy that came out to unclog the toilet.

    He said: I prefer tapes. Old School. I bought one of his cassettes. Nice mix. Good pipes.

    I thought you didn't like "toilet" sounds ;)

  • McDMcD

    @mjcouche said:

    @McD said:
    I could stand it anymore... I told somebody. They didn't seem to care. Go figure.
    It was the guy that came out to unclog the toilet.

    He said: I prefer tapes. Old School. I bought one of his cassettes. Nice mix. Good pipes.

    I thought you didn't like "toilet" sounds ;)

    You remembered and I didn't get you anything.

  • jolicojolico

    @iammane said:

    triplebandcrew

  • iOSTRAKONiOSTRAKON

    Anybody getting crackles or cpu spikes when adding Bark to anything?

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/36859/tons-of-crackle-in-bark-filter#latest

  • zeropointzeropoint

    Yes. Zenbeats and Auria Pro. Has been ok to date in AUM though.....

  • McDMcD

    @iOSTRAKON said:
    Anybody getting crackles or cpu spikes when adding Bark to anything?

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/36859/tons-of-crackle-in-bark-filter#latest

    Yes. But usually only if I have a shit load of other FX and Apps loaded.

    From the Wiki Frequently_Adked_Questions:

    Q: Why are IOS DAW's so fragile? Everything crashes around me when I make my projects. Who tests these Apps we pay so much for? Apple? The Developer? No. It's me!

A: Think of an App as an appliance like these analogous devices:

A Hairdryer (1000 Watts/10 Amps needed) A drill (100 Watts/1 Amp needed) Most home systems in the use allow up to 15 Amps to be pulled from a plug (power strips can have 8-10 ports) before the line draws too much current and needs to throw the breaker to prevent the wiring from melting due to heat.

2 hair dryers can't use the same power strip but you could use 14 drills (using 2 power strips into a power strip for 19 free ports)

So, thought experiment, using Apps: 1. iSymphony Strings 10 Amps 2. Perfect Piano 7 Amps 3. Tiny Pianos .3 Amps

Try using iSymphony Strings and the Perfect Piano at the same time. They crash the DAW (10 + 7 = 17 Amps. BREAKER)

Use 2 Pianos without issue but probably little else at 14 Amps

Switch to 30 Tiny Pianos… 9 Amps.

“Now why does the Perfect Piano I paid $50 for crash in my DAW and the $5 Tiny Piano work? Doesn't Apple test this crap? I want my money back.”

Apple tests the breakers for AU's at 340MB - they try to help. I'm only considering one resource in my analogy. Most DAW's show CPU use but few show RAM and the interplay between RAM and CPU is exactly what the DAW is managing for you to create.

So, most DAW on IOS complaints are due to resource limits. More RAM and faster CPU's provide more resources and Apple appears to be raising the AU resource limits for newer iPads since they have 4GB's. The big dog has 6GB for $2000.

It's not a problem with IOS. It's just a boundary condition on a mobile device. Just seek a compromise with the Apps you love (understand their needs) and try not to throw the breakers and ruin your work with outages. It is a challenge worth the effort.

There are many rules to live by but these are my top 3:

Freeze heavy RAM/CPU Apps to audio early (free up RAM/CPU use) Don't expect a project to support 10-15 AU apps (if they do it's a “Tiny Piano”) Try to Apply FX carefully to avoid wasting excess resources when they could be grouped or applied in post production. NOTE: Many Apps are synths/FX/Sequencer combos (I'm looking at you Aparillo). They are definitely Hairdryers. More and more we're getting seduced by hairdryers. So, things will only get worse without knowledge of this limitation.

    But "Bark Filter" is NOT a Hair Dryer but it can still trigger resource issues that result in crackling in some configurations. Not really anyone's fault except...

  • jolicojolico

    @McD said:

    @iOSTRAKON said:
    Anybody getting crackles or cpu spikes when adding Bark to anything?

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/36859/tons-of-crackle-in-bark-filter#latest

    Yes. But usually only if I have a shit load of other FX and Apps loaded.

    From the Wiki Frequently_Adked_Questions:

    Q: Why are IOS DAW's so fragile? Everything crashes around me when I make my projects. Who tests these Apps we pay so much for? Apple? The Developer? No. It's me!

A: Think of an App as an appliance like these analogous devices:

A Hairdryer (1000 Watts/10 Amps needed) A drill (100 Watts/1 Amp needed) Most home systems in the use allow up to 15 Amps to be pulled from a plug (power strips can have 8-10 ports) before the line draws too much current and needs to throw the breaker to prevent the wiring from melting due to heat.

2 hair dryers can't use the same power strip but you could use 14 drills (using 2 power strips into a power strip for 19 free ports)

So, thought experiment, using Apps: 1. iSymphony Strings 10 Amps 2. Perfect Piano 7 Amps 3. Tiny Pianos .3 Amps

Try using iSymphony Strings and the Perfect Piano at the same time. They crash the DAW (10 + 7 = 17 Amps. BREAKER)

Use 2 Pianos without issue but probably little else at 14 Amps

Switch to 30 Tiny Pianos… 9 Amps.

“Now why does the Perfect Piano I paid $50 for crash in my DAW and the $5 Tiny Piano work? Doesn't Apple test this crap? I want my money back.”

Apple tests the breakers for AU's at 340MB - they try to help. I'm only considering one resource in my analogy. Most DAW's show CPU use but few show RAM and the interplay between RAM and CPU is exactly what the DAW is managing for you to create.

So, most DAW on IOS complaints are due to resource limits. More RAM and faster CPU's provide more resources and Apple appears to be raising the AU resource limits for newer iPads since they have 4GB's. The big dog has 6GB for $2000.

It's not a problem with IOS. It's just a boundary condition on a mobile device. Just seek a compromise with the Apps you love (understand their needs) and try not to throw the breakers and ruin your work with outages. It is a challenge worth the effort.

There are many rules to live by but these are my top 3:

Freeze heavy RAM/CPU Apps to audio early (free up RAM/CPU use) Don't expect a project to support 10-15 AU apps (if they do it's a “Tiny Piano”) Try to Apply FX carefully to avoid wasting excess resources when they could be grouped or applied in post production. NOTE: Many Apps are synths/FX/Sequencer combos (I'm looking at you Aparillo). They are definitely Hairdryers. More and more we're getting seduced by hairdryers. So, things will only get worse without knowledge of this limitation.

    But "Bark Filter" is NOT a Hair Dryer but it can still trigger resource issues that result in crackling in some configurations. Not really anyone's fault except...

    I only had that issue in Audio Evolution, but that was in a CPU heavy project.
    In Audio Evolution I now only use it for mastering mixdowns quickly.

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    For me, the reason I “master” with BF is because it has multiband compression, eq, and limiting all in one box so I can get more done inside an app’s master track without hiccups than when I apply multiple Fabs, or Toneboosts, or various combinations of other apps to compress, eq, limit, and so on. If Grand Finale was an effect there might be competition, but it’s a destination only app.

  • jolicojolico

    If you hear crackles, switch off the limiter in BarkFilter.

    I use TBBarricade for limiting.

  • Sequencer1Sequencer1
    edited March 2020

    Sorry, wrong post.

  • AtticusLAtticusL

    I’m using this in GarageBand on a 2018 iPad Pro and I can’t see far enough to the right to switch the limiter on. I can’t seem to resize the window to get to it either. Does anyone know how I’m being dumb or is this just one of those things?

  • reasOnereasOne

    i just bought this one, it’s only 4.99 and i’m curious 😏😎

  • iOSTRAKONiOSTRAKON

    Make a drum track and then do a A/B test and you’ll notice the power immediately

    @reasOne said:
    i just bought this one, it’s only 4.99 and i’m curious 😏😎

  • reasOnereasOne

    @iOSTRAKON said:
    Make a drum track and then do a A/B test and you’ll notice the power immediately

    @reasOne said:
    i just bought this one, it’s only 4.99 and i’m curious 😏😎

    on it! good call

  • jolicojolico

  • palmspalms

    @jolico lol, pretty spot on..

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