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Roland Zenbeats by Roland Corporation (Auv3)
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Hey ZBers! How is it going with integration options? Can you use ZB in AUM as AUv3? Or can you route audio recording options only with new Tracker?
No. And it's unlikely it ever will be an AUv3.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "new Tracker"?
Roland's new DAW: zentracker
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/roland-zentracker/id1582634903
Interesting.
Well, as regards @bot0vod 's question, I don't think this new tracker changes anything. You can record external audio into Zenbeats the same as you can Zentracker. I don't see anything about Zentracker that says you can host as an AUv3 AUM to record into it that way.
So, Zentracker is really just a free, stripped down subset of Zenbeats. It doesn't bring anything new to the table for a Zenbeats user that I can see.
My point of using ZB was to mix it down in AUM with everything I have. I don't want to stay at Roland ecosystem only. So I was looking of workaround on how to do it. Is there a way that I can use ZB along with Drambo (as I could do if ZB cound do IAA or AUv3 channel export)?
So this might not be the thread for this but I know they look at this so I’m just gonna throw it out there: with the new TR-8S desktop editor that just came out it further solidified my strong desire for this exact thing right on my iPad. Please make an iOS driver or something for the tr-8S so I can use it with zenbeats. It seems like zenbeats would be natively compatible with ALL the Roland Aira ecosystem of things. Let’s do it!
There really is no way to pipe ZB output into AUM unless you have an audio interface with loopback capability. Or two iOS devices and two audio interfaces.
If you just want to use ZB with Drambo, and don't need to host AUv3's in Drambo, then you can load Drambo into ZB.
Another alternative is to mix down the ZB session to audio and import to AUM file player(s).
This is why I bought the inexpensive Behringer 204HD. It’s got the poor-man’s loopback. You can output to outs 3/4 and route those back to inputs 1/2.
Use cases:
I haven’t tested enough to check If there’s noticeable latency, but it should be minimal.
I've been revving up Zenbeats again after some time on BM3 and I've run into a bug (?) that I'm hoping someone could verify for me: launching Gauss as an AUv3 plugin results in a completely blank (black) window with no functionality. All of Bram's other plugs seem to work fine. Thanks. FYI @brambos @MatthewAtZenbeats
Works fine here on iOS 14.8 / Air 2.
No, ZB will not be abandoned. Zen Tracker is not a replacement for Zenbeats. Its just a streamlined app for audio tracking.
Thanks @wim. I'm baffled. Every other plugin I tried looks fine in ZB and Gauss looks fine in all the other hosts.
What device and iOS version? It will help to know in case others with the same can test.
Did you try a re-scan? I see it. iPad 8 iOS 15.1
Its not about seeing it in the list of plugins. It's about seeing the interface once the plugin is loaded.
Right. I meant I am seeing the interface. 💀 I was thinking a re-scan might correct it. Always worth a shot.
I had similar black blank interface with Ruismaker Noir. Bram advised me to restart the device, which fixed the problem. Give it a try.
The loops that I record slowly drift out of sync the longer the song plays. This doesn't happen in garageband's loop page.
And the recording issue of playing back fully panned left or right because apparently a different sample rate was used has never been fixed. I have to choose force mono to fix.
Have you tried turning stretch off and carefully setting the loop points until they indicate an an exact number of bars?
Thanks @0tolerance4silence and @anickt. I rescanned, restarted, and reinstalled the plugin. One time, when I was loading Gauss, the interface appeared for fraction of a second before going all black but that's the only time I've seen it. Weird.
If you report through in-app support they will see it and are good about responding in my experience.
Yes but i will try it again.
The problem is even with stretch off you can move the loop end marker slightly when zoomed in and it still shows the same number, for example 4.00. How can that be right? If you are setting the loop end marker somewhere slightly different on the waveform, the start loop marker has to move as well in the same direction to keep it a perfect loop, but it doesn't.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏 it certainly wasn’t easy!.
But, you know what?. I’d be disappointed if they redesigned ZB and make it modern and slick like NS2 kind of… I want it to keep being just a tad ugly. That’s part of our relationship.
I have mentioned before that itd be a great idea to open up customization via CSS, like Atom2 did. Instead of trying to please everyone let them do their own skins…
While it is tripped down, there are some new editing features in the timeline view and in the audio editor that we'll bring to the next Zenbeats version. Any feedback on those would be appreciated.
We'll investigate this. Thanks for the report.
Curious to hear details on what's "uglier" about Zentracker.
Thanks @MatthewAtZenbeats. I checked again today and got the same result. Everything else is working well.
Well, there are probably as many tastes as there are users. Very often a cross-platform UI feels strange to many users but some also don’t like the desktop like UI of Cubasis. I think the Zenbeats UI is quite good. I like the free scalability - obviously an advantage of the cross-platform UI. I think many people aren‘t happy with the color schemes. I think it would be a really cool feature to enable users to style the UI themselves.
FWIW, I’ve come to like the Zenbeats GUI quite a lot. It has an slightly old-fashioned look, which I prefer in many cases to more modern designs like the Nanostudio 2 GUI. Once you get used to the fact that editing is a bit different, it all works pretty well. And the sounds in ZC1 are tremendous.
+1 to me the way ZB looks is reminiscent of hardware devices, I really dig that. Take BM3, for example, it’s got a very smooth and pleasing design and ui, very “polished” (literally), but to me it looks like it’s gonna break if you press too hard…
Is this something you might consider @MatthewAtZenbeats ?. Being able to create custom styles would be really useful. Some people like bezel, some like it flat, more contrast, less contrast, etc…
Btw I’m sorry if the comments about ZB or Zentracker being “ugly” seem disrespectful, which I see how it can after all the hard work you put into it. It’s one of those occasions where you talk trash because you love it, the way you talk shit to your best friend.