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Hello,
I just bought iDensity during the ongoing sale of ApeSoft products this week. Impressed by the hosting/routing possibilities offered by the matrix. I have the impression that I almost don't need ApeMatrix any longer as it could replace it (but maybe I am wrong).
However, I am not able to have it play polyphonic with the keyboard, only monophonic.
Can you tell me if iDensity is polyphonic or only monophonic (which would be a kind of disappointment compared to Space Craft, which I love) ? If so, how to fix this. Thanks in advance.
afaik, iDensity is monophonic. Try iPulsaret for polyphony. And iDensity cannot use MIDI AUs, afaik, like apeMatrix can.
Noooooo !! 😩😭
Okay, thank you.
Yes, I also bought iPulsaret which played instantly polyphonically. So I was quite surprised that iDensity didn’t.
Thank you for having confirmed.
I believe iDensity is meant to be used as a special granular effect, whereas iPulsaret is more like a keyboard instrument.
Though both can also be used in the FX slot (along with Sparkle vocoder/formant mangler) - awesomeness!
apeSoft (+ Amazing Noises) apps are so unique and special to have on the iPad.
This!
Also, iDensity shines as Standalone or IAA.. 6 sample slots, AUv3 hosting and a beautiful built-in reverb!
I just went back and bought some more Apesoft apps. Such great value for such inventive kit. Now I need to sit down to try to understand how to use them!
I think you’ll continue to be surprised and amazed with all of the apeSoft apps.
Indeed. I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to discover how good they are. Need to find some decent tutorials for the Granular apps.
iPulsaret is less accessible than iDensity and iDensity isn't really limited by its monophonic playback, although as @sharifkerbage mentions the IAA version of iDensity is super-powerful and you can fake polyphony by loading the same sample into multiple slots but with the added benefit that each instance can be treated individually with further processing.
I've found less use for iPulsaret, but that's simply because I don't often produce experimental sound design style productions but iDensity is a firm favourite (probably because I first starting using the M4L version in Ableton many years ago).
Would be interesting to hear how you all use iDensity or iPulsaret.
In Experimental sound design style productions --- hehe! Love @jonmoore's choice of words. (iPulsaret is more conventional than iDensity, imo - it's stellar at creating pads and atmospheres)
Or iDensity in regular, you know - 'normal' Top 40-ish tunes. 😁
Would be an interesting battle.
Is there a tutorial for v4 that covers the basics and the matrix?
I take it all back ref iPulsaret; having spent most of the day getting lost in its possibilities.
iDensity seems to be the « star » app from Apesoft (amongst the experimental ones). Strangely, I find myself making more out of iPulsaret… at least for now. Maybe this will change once I will discover all the possibilities of iDensity. It’s been only 2 days since I bought both.
Regarding the comment somewhere above about iPulsaret being "more like a keyboard instrument". I mostly use iPulsaret for live processing of my electric mandola; I still consider it to be the best live processing granular synth on iOS. I rarely use it as a keyboard instrument.
I haven’t been as mystified by an app as I am with iDensity… I thought I knew how to do things with apps. I figured out how to (de)select midi inputs, but I don’t know how to route them to specific players or AUs in the matrix (in the standalone). I also can’t figure out (or if it’s possible) to route various audio inputs from the audio interface through the matrix. Of course all this can be done running iDensity as AUs in AUM, but
I was somehow drawn to the immediacy of the standalone… if only I could route it correctly.
Are there any recommendations of video material with workflow ideas specifically using multi-input audio interfaces?
@dvi Yeah iDensity is one of the apps which got me into the ipad in the early days.. It doesn't have built in interface multi input or multi output support yet, but hope that gets added.
But you can get around this with good old IAA and AUM. If you load AUM IAA input channels into the matrix and then split them in AUM as inputs from your audio interface sources, thus:
You can also host the IAA app in AUM, just did that as a quick example
Thanks. I had no idea it could process live audio.
Thanks! I’m still struggling. I have everything set up as in your example in AUM and this patching in iDensity, which if I understand the matrix correctly means: IAA inputs 1+2 -> Slots 1+2 -> Out // Slots 1+2 -> LunarLander -> Out. No coming into the slots or out. (I tried the same set up replacing IAA inputs for Specturm and it works as expected.)
The only way I’ve been able to get any sound from the audio interface is with this patching, but in this case the audio coming into the slots is both inputs 1+2 combined (which I assume is what the jack icon means).
I imagine the solution is obvious and I’d really appreciate any insights. I’m not ready to give up on it just yet!
Hm, as you’d expect, I restarted everything and now it works fine. Go figure, but yay!
That's how iOS rolls, unfortunately. Never has the phrase "have you tried switching it off and then back again" had so much meaning!
Yeah, that's a familiar IAA issue, good when it works but not always reliable. I do hope it doesn't get removed though as I'd miss this kind of feature.
The iPulsaret selectable 'Grain Source' icon gives you a choice of 'Wave' 'Trainlet' 'Sample' 'Live' and 'Harm'. The key (literally) to using the Live input is that you won't hear any granular processing unless you lock down a key or two. Don't think of it as playing the keyboard; the locked key is more like a switch that opens an amp/vca to let the live processed audio through. The locked keyboard keys have another advantage, in that you can retune (or not) the resulting audio. Locking something like C3 gives you an output that is in tune with your input. Adding a locked G3 to that will give you a 5th, so it behaves like a rudimentary harmonizer. With very short loop buffer settings, you can make pad sounds with your guitar etc.
Pulled out iDensity AUv3 version today and had an absolute blast with it. I think tmrw I will have to have a play with the standalone. But even the AUv3 is fantastic, one of the great experimental touchscreen apps for sure. Even just with one short sample you can do so much, and it’s very intuitive:
Yeah definitely one of their best iOS apps. And having AU hosting in standalone mode just adds another layer of greatness. I haven’t used it in months so I might have to break it out again myself. Thanks for the inspiration haha
Yeah, I think it gets a little forgotten. It’s really great, and it’s really useful for stifling my urge to buy a Morphagene…
Really glad you’re highlighting it, @Gavinski , it deserves a lot more love.
It does. It's very annoying because social media tends to focus always on novelty. Viewers are more interested in that so 'creators' are also herded in that direction. It all gets unbearably tedious after a while, I'm so sick of the frenzy for constant novelty. Viewers can decide to change their habits I guess, and creators can also try to remind them that the old stuff still rocks.
Saw a post on twitter just now that resonated. 'Imagine making music with the stuff you've already got' 🔥 🤷♂️
I’ve always appreciated Doug reviving the oldies on his channels.
Yes sure. Doug's very prolific, putting out a vid a day, so he kind of has to. It's harder for ppl who post more sporadically to choose to do older stuff instead of new stuff, as they're potentially hurting the growth of their channel by doing so.
In a way , it might be beneficial for someone to do the somewhat more obscure iOS instruments like Red Animal and BB17, that aren’t really covered as much as someone somewhere might one day look for them …and it might be someone other than me one day too 😂