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Has Cubasis 3 Finally surpassed NS2 ?

I know , I know. It’s too early. Please don’t shoot the messenger, I couldn’t resist. Say if NS2 has audio recording available now, which one is guv?

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  • @wim said:
    Pass.

    Lol... (To self)... “There’s still time to turn back!”

  • 🤐 that’s me from now on!

  • Oh NOOOOO!!!

  • edited December 2019

    On paper yes, however there are reports of teething issues with MIDI timing and some plugins not working like they did in Cubasis 2. Once the dust settles though I think we'll see that Cubasis has made a big leap forward, and might indeed take the crown.

    (I say this as a spectator who hasn't yet bought Cubasis 3 though, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt).

  • Not NS2 user, but same type of question:
    When Xequence 2 will respond ? ...
    :)

  • I find Cubasis 2/3 and Nanostudio 2 hardly comparable. They're just too different. NS2 for MIDI composition and a great synth and sampler, C2/C3 for audio tracks and time stretching.

    Also, tbh, I don't see where C3 is a "complete rewrite" with its core engine apparently still having a hard time synchronizing with the outside world.

  • @rs2000 said:
    I find Cubasis 2/3 and Nanostudio 2 hardly comparable. They're just too different. NS2 for MIDI composition and a great synth and sampler, C2/C3 for audio tracks and time stretching.

    Also, tbh, I don't see where C3 is a "complete rewrite" with its core engine apparently still having a hard time synchronizing with the outside world.

    Just lock them both in a cosy and dimly lit room...then wait

  • @rs2000 said:
    I find Cubasis 2/3 and Nanostudio 2 hardly comparable. They're just too different. NS2 for MIDI composition and a great synth and sampler, C2/C3 for audio tracks and time stretching.

    Also, tbh, I don't see where C3 is a "complete rewrite" with its core engine apparently still having a hard time synchronizing with the outside world.

    People say Cubasis' strength is in MIDI while Auria's strength is in Audio.

  • edited December 2019

    For me it’s sad to say but yes...as an NS2 iPhone only user CB3 is just ‘that’ DAW i was waiting for on iPhone and NS2 is nearly but not quite...the audio tracks and time stretching alone make the difference

  • edited December 2019

    @MobileMusic said:

    @rs2000 said:
    I find Cubasis 2/3 and Nanostudio 2 hardly comparable. They're just too different. NS2 for MIDI composition and a great synth and sampler, C2/C3 for audio tracks and time stretching.

    Also, tbh, I don't see where C3 is a "complete rewrite" with its core engine apparently still having a hard time synchronizing with the outside world.

    People say Cubasis' strength is in MIDI while Auria's strength is in Audio.

    Since I've started composing in NS2's piano roll, I wouldn't want to go back.
    Even the piano roll in Audio Evolution is much more fun to use than the one in Cubasis IMHO...

  • For me a daw must have audio recording so cubasis 2 already surpassed ns2

  • edited December 2019

    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

  • @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    Which means it has to be 150% better... 😜

  • edited December 2019

    Mmmm, i don't use either. I would like to try Cubasis but midi/audio timing is up there as the most important feature of a DAW and I hear Cubasis lacks in this department.

    Still waiting on these fellas to improve.

  • @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I know I'm not qualified to comment, but in my opinion NS2 for sure is an oddball when it comes to pricing 😉 a bit like "The ALDI of DAWs" 😁

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I know I'm not qualified to comment, but in my opinion NS2 for sure is an oddball when it comes to pricing 😉 a bit like "The ALDI of DAWs" 😁

    I like Aldi ;-)

    But I'm also the proud owner of Xequence by the way...

  • @SlowwFloww said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I know I'm not qualified to comment, but in my opinion NS2 for sure is an oddball when it comes to pricing 😉 a bit like "The ALDI of DAWs" 😁

    I like Aldi ;-)

    But I'm also the proud owner of Xequence by the way...

    Same here. Both are more M&S than Aldi, but C3 is more 'bought on ebay but it doesn't seem to be the real thing'. C3 could be good but at the moment it's pretty much unusable for me. I never return an app, but it's Christmas and this app is nowhere near release date, so I don't feel guilty (as I normally would do). I'll buy it again without hesitation when it works properly.

  • @SlowwFloww @audio_DT yeah it wasn't meant in a derogatory manner at all. Aldi (and Lidl) stand for good quality products at very reasonable prices :)

  • @SevenSystems said:
    @SlowwFloww @audio_DT yeah it wasn't meant in a derogatory manner at all. Aldi (and Lidl) stand for good quality products at very reasonable prices :)

    You patronising b******! Haha. I'm only kidding!

  • edited December 2019

    @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I bought NS2 in the sale for 5.99? or whatever it was and even at that price I’m kind of regretting it as I think the workflow is terrible. Cubasis 3 looks nice and addresses a lot of the little things to make it easier to work with but I will wait a bit before upgrading.

  • @Mark B said:

    @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I bought NS2 in the sale for 5.99? or whatever it was and even at that price I’m kind of regretting it as I think the workflow is terrible. Cubasis 3 looks nice and addresses a lot of the little things to make it easier to work with but I will wait a bit before upgrading.

    I was slightly put off by NS2's interface at first, but after bit of use I now don't think there is a better iOS DAW interface out there. It's stunningly good to use.

  • It's almost been a years since NS2 was released and AudioTracks are still missing.

    I'm a bit torn but the more I use even the Lite version of Ableton Live the iOS DAW offerings still have a LOOOOOONG way to go...

  • @Samu said:
    It's almost been a years since NS2 was released and AudioTracks are still missing.

    I'm a bit torn but the more I use even the Lite version of Ableton Live the iOS DAW offerings still have a LOOOOOONG way to go...

    It’s tough, there’s just so many things that are better about it (desktop software). Aside from OS updates which aren’t usually so catastrophic, things usually work. Don’t really have to worry as much about abandoned apps. The features are wayyyy more robust.

    On the flip, they’re not nearly as portable, everything costs 2-4x as much. I guess both doing different tasks is maybe the best bet? (I know a lot of people use both iOS and desktop software as part of their process).

    There’s certainly no “silver bullet” no matter how you slice it.

  • @iammane said:

    There’s certainly no “silver bullet” no matter how you slice it.

    Yepp, I'm fully aware of the current situation...

    What irks me the most is that there are plenty of good apps out there that miss just a few features that are covered by other apps and making them work seamlessly together is a real pita.

    Imagine having the 'iOS 'Sharesheet' as an option directly on audio-events in a sequencer to dump in into an audio-editor of choice when more in-depth editing is needed and the feature is not covered by the host?. And long-tap on empty space in the arranger to directly import a file using FIles.app. These things can be done but since multiple iOS version need to be supported due to varying reasons some functions will never get implemented.

    Some users already complain that Cubasis 3 requires iOS13 but hey, in less than 6 months iOS14 will be announced and those on iOS11 or earlier still demand support for various reasons like using abandoned apps...

  • @Mark B said:

    @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I bought NS2 in the sale for 5.99? or whatever it was and even at that price I’m kind of regretting it as I think the workflow is terrible. Cubasis 3 looks nice and addresses a lot of the little things to make it easier to work with but I will wait a bit before upgrading.

    Wow, i find this surprising. I took to NS2 like a duck to fritos.

  • While some aspects of NS2 are really good some areas need more work especially in the sampling department especially when compared the BM3.(A 'merger' of NS2 and BM3 features would be awesome but will likely never happen).

  • edited December 2019

    @kinkujin said:

    @Mark B said:

    @SlowwFloww said:
    NS2 - $ 19,99
    Cubasis 3 - $ 49,99
    :)

    I bought NS2 in the sale for 5.99? or whatever it was and even at that price I’m kind of regretting it as I think the workflow is terrible. Cubasis 3 looks nice and addresses a lot of the little things to make it easier to work with but I will wait a bit before upgrading.

    Wow, i find this surprising. I took to NS2 like a duck to fritos.

    The first thing I tried to do is load an AUV3 instrument. I tried everywhere looking for the load option and then had to resort to reading the manual to find I had to do a long press on the + button. I hardly ever read manuals unless I really need fine details on how something works but just for a basic feature this was ridiculous. But then it was obvious the AUV3 support in the app was bolted on due to it having starting development when iOS did not have plugin support and it shows with the awkward (and missing for FX) AUV3 automation method.

  • To each their own but for me NS2 workflow beats every other iOS “DAW” and I have used pretty much all of them. Others may have certain aspects that are better but the overall user experience and ability to get things done is better for me in NS2. The only other app which comes close is Caustic. The AUv3 instruments I use in NS2 all work perfectly and if I need automation for FX the built-in FX in NS2 are quite good. I can use Slate or Obsidian for audio clips.

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