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In AUM I should have made a quick vid but this is faster
@joniqwest Thats 🔥
@ipadbeatmaking @echoopera
Thank you both !!! 😂😂
I couldn’t figure out why Audioshare didn’t see my MOTU 828 inputs, after posting my AUM input screen shots. It occurred to me to try MICPRE 1/2. It seems as if audio share only sees first 2 stereo inputs of the 828ES. I was going crazy all last week because of this smh
I doesn’t have loopback function built in but I can and have created a routing preset via the desktop software and now all my system audio can be routed to whatever app I choose e.g. YouTube , Safari, iTunes into for instance BM3.
I actually had to buy the Mac App LoopBack for $100 way back when...so nice to have that feature, for free.
Oooh that's just loverly. So in theory, those channels would show up via Optical Out to my FocusRite Optical IN on my Mac as separate channels then?
I like the Audiofuse stuff feature wise, but I wonder how long they'll last seeing how Arturia does a little bit too many things in my book to be great...just my opinion though
Also, I can't seem to find them anywhere to purchase at this time either, other than the 8Pre
@ipadbeatmaking loopback doesn’t seem to work for me tried the demo a few weeks ago and had to give it a hard pass
So in theory @ipadbeatmaking @joniqwest if I were to get these 2 devices (or keep my Scarlett to save a few pennies) I'd have a good audio setup from some fun future mid range FUN
Not very pretty looking...man, I wish the BabyFace showed 12Out on the iPad, as that would be a sweet I/O for the iPad and I could just hide the Motu under a rug or something
Yes, exactly the 828 is very flexible and you can setup and save multiple presets to the hardware for various situations.
I like the Arturia interfaces as well. AudioFuse would have been ideal as I also have an original presonus digimax 96K for additional I/O > 828ES. But the heating issues early on kept me away
I would say try with the focusrite and 828 first and see if that will work
@echoopera
The MOTU 4PRE .... eh not so much ...
Agreed. Seems last generation or something.
So when an audio interface says 14 Out and they only have 4 analog outs, what does that really mean? Is that 14 out over Optical
Should these show up on the iPad as well? I wonder if the audio fuse does this.
I can’t find any info on the BabyFace and how many outs show up on iPad. Users on YouTube only show how to use it with Tidal. Wtf? Hahaha
Digital outs most likely ADAT / SPDIF and also headphone outs
Funny thing word clock is probably considered a set of outputs
@echoopera forget word clock just looked at it , and they maybe including monitor outs as part of the 14 outputs
Right. @echoopera its essentially a 4x4 device with a few added tricks. Adat is an additional 8in/out =12 + I'd say headphones or insert, or whatever else they deem the other 2 get you to = 14.
@echoopera
awww man ... now you have revisiting the AudioFuse smh. I have seen it in person , beautiful unit, solid build I hear the micpres are excellent and @ipadbeatmaking inserts are definitely a nice touch( something I believe should be standard on high quality interfaces with pres)
Now I could use the 828 as an AD converter into the AudioFuse hmmm.
Btw 828Es pres are REALLY good, used in untreated room with an AT2020 no processing dead quiet.
@echoopera
Added a screenshot of I/O in CB3 using 828es.
@joniqwest Thank you for sharing, I've been curious about how iOS/apps handle high input/output interfaces.. Looks like its ready for the job. No im curious about latency levels while concurrently recording audio and how the iPad holds up!
@echoopera Since you don't need mic pres, The Motu 8A looks pretty cool! Cheaper, & Featuring On board DSP! Wow
Thanks again @joniqwest may grab the MOTU as my expander to connect to my Scarlett for the short term until the Symphony comes out.
And thanks @ipadbeatmaking for all the knowledge and info 🙏🏼
Maybe i should watch this:
I just did, very nice video, very applicable to your current scenario. What’s your thoughts?
I may go with the Arturia 8 Pre honestly. I like the individual volume controls on the front. Just need to find out how it connects with an iPad.
I got some good info to think about for sure.
Not a bad choice for your scenario. What’s your thoughts on the Scarlett 18i20?
I may go with the Arturia 8 Pre honestly. I like the individual volume controls on the front. > @ipadbeatmaking said:
I was thinking about that too. Just need to find reviews of it. I want the unit to sound great and look good too. I’m an aesthetics nerd with gear as well. It’s why i love the Maschine+ over the MPC One as well.
I think i just watched too many RME BabyFace Pro FS videos this evening. That TotalMixFX app on iPad looks stellar.
Man....the quest continues 🤪
This is a fun thread!
As I said in an earlier reply I’ve tried lots of mic preamps both built into interfaces ( motu, Steinberg, apogee, audient, UA, presonus , Arturia ) , stand-alone (UA, Audient, API) not to mention those in desks ( quad,Yamaha, soundcraft , Mackie, Midas,Sony, ... ) but never all at he same time, in the same place with the same source. So I can’t say which were the ‘best’... I really can’t. I have fond memories of some sessions and recordings ... less so with others. But were the preamps to blame? No way... except if they failed!
I can say I have never made a recording of a superior performance/ song that was ruined by a mic pre. I don’t think even the mic choice ‘ruined’ anything ( given good basic craft choices). The location of a recording has certainly made a few promising projects fall well short of the mark... and I’ve recorded lots of great compositions performed by people who just didn’t have the chops to do the material justice ( my own included!! ). But no mic pre or interface will begin to address these issues.
So for me, it’s not the specs or the reputation or reviews of a unit or preamp within a unit. For me it’s more practical considerations... particularly in a home studio... what will the unit let me plug in to avoid constant repatching? Can I access Physical controls without having to resort to menus and software to configure monitoring and levels and so on? I hate interrupting the flow to stare at screen clicking around. If it seems I herald from the days of mixers then you got it. But they evolved for a very good reason... everything you need right in front of you ... and it tends to stay in one place!
Back to interface choice... none of them do exactly what I’d like. But let’s be real... $300 will get you a lot compared to a few years ago... $800 will get you something else...if you want to spend $1500 on a piece that makes you feel good and confident, do it. Again, with consideration to the past it’s not that much for what you can achieve. But above all but make sure you have enough resources left for a good, well respected microphone. ( it doesn’t matter how good the book is if you can’t afford the glasses needed to read it). I still don’t believe that a single Audient preamp for $200 will sound much ‘worse’ than an apogee example in a $1500 interface. But you won’t have both so you’ll never know. And nor will I! However the interfaces will be different in other respects that make a huge difference to your work flow. So think about that carefully.
If I still haven’t convinced you , spend $1000 on a quality, name brand microphone today, look after it and in10 years you will sell it for the same ... or more. That thunderbolt/usb interface won’t even plug in to anything by then.
Oh yeah... good speakers... sigh ....😈
I haven’t been able to find it anywhere, just checked a couple online sites and it’s still not available yet, and I ordered the MOTU M4 a month ago to use until the Apogee is in stock and even that’s still on back order, this is crazy
I’ll be honest here, I personally wouldn’t buy equipment at these higher prices (above $600) that I can see isn’t good enough to fulfill my core needs and quality expectations for a very very long time. I tend to like to buy core items such as interfaces once a decade, maybe twice, At most. I bought the M4 and Scarlett 2i2gen3 as a travel rig for the iPad, after being ousted by the apogee duet on iPad Pro 2018. RME is battle tested. It stands tall. It is very much a pro audio situation. I'd also maybe consider a second hand apogee symphony I/O. I say all this because I remember you using the word 'investment' not the word 'spend,' which tells me you are all in on best quality you can reach, something that will hold value better than the norm, and something stable (in design, price, models, usage etc) . Something not needing constant redesigns etc says something to me about it being properly figured out.
That said, all in all I don't think you'll go wrong with any choice, we are talking about final inches of quality, in a 40 yard dash here. Every interface in the race is well qualified and can hold their own, but those inches are where the race is won or lost. lol. Thank goodness for participation trophies 🏆😂
It's like these people don't want money or something 🤨🤔