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OT: Vent About Global Pandemic Management *HERE*

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  • @fritzm said:
    I am so lucky to be teacher and have good job. We've got this online class thing down pretty good now. I think my school may go to a hybrid thing where maybe the kids come in half of the time. But what about working parents? It's certainly going to be challenging.
    @kobamoto - I've been calm since the beginning. It's all good. I still love you.
    But, I have more important things to do right now, like locate some more velcro for my pedalboard. Be safe!

    you too and stay vigilant out there, whenever you need to vent or make further confessions the thread will be here for you, and no matter how much we disagree we'll always have miles Davis baby!!

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    just gotta laugh at the fact that the Bible Trump was holding up was upside down, 🤦‍♂️

    for someone talking about the constitution so much he certainly doesn't know how it works... Sorry Mr. President it's against the law to send troops into states.. that's up to governors, they have to make the request for that... please spend some time reading the constitution because you're embarrassing yourself and the ijits that voted for you.

  • @kobamoto
    Please, you just made me laugh. At this rate, I'll be Trump bashing soon.

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    @fritzm said:

    lol, I think you're finally getting this thread now... hey do me a favor and post over here as well

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/37643/ot-vent-about-global-pandemic-management-here/p114

    chuckles

  • Hey, I never said I liked Trump. I was raised to feel empathy for people. Even bad people. But seriously , Biden? He won't live through his first year. What, he's like 102 right?

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    And here we go.
    Military will likely soon be deployed in the US.

  • Oh crap!

  • Truly historic times.

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    We're a country - at least at the national level - that prefers to address symptoms rather than solve them. Because that takes work, and doesn't make money. Like pretending that each school shooting is a surprise and could never have been prevented.

    Trump is once again displaying a complete and utter lack of leadership. Leadership is NOT the increased use of force. That's a FAILURE of leadership.

    So the Covid19 issue is the responsibility ot the states, because Trump won't lead, but, now, the riots and looting in some places is NOT the responsibility of the states to resolve, but the federal government. Yet ANOTHER complete and utter lack of leadership. What a complete failure and coward he is. Now, if the governors formally request military assistance, then that would be on the governor, not Trump.

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    Sounds like it's still a threat (because those work so well) made to the governors. For now.
    Breaking news kinds of stuff.

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  • Meanwhile I live less than a mile west of the location George Floyd was murdered in public. Lived here since 1956. I have witnessed this before when I was very young. I won’t get to play music again tonight since I will be with my neighborhood block group protecting our community from primarily white agitators from outside this community like I have since last Wednesday. These provocateurs are here in unlicensed vehicles and from out of state depositing caches of gasoline and devices to start fires, mixing in with legitimate protesters and in many cases perform the very first act of vandalism or looting, driving by those of us protecting the neighborhood and shouting “your” city will burn tonight. We have had to board up most small businesses that are already struggling with covid measures. I could go on and on.
    Btw, I am white and so are the majority of my neighbors. We recognize most of these bad actors in Minneapolis do not live here and are predominantly white like ourselves as they threaten us all.

    “I may not be black but there’s a whole lot of times I wish I wasn’t white”. FZ from 1966 song Trouble Every Day. I have repeated this line for 54 years and I hope someday to retire it.

    Looters caught by the American Indian Patrol in the worst parts of the mayhem. From Eau Claire Wisconsin. There with the whole high school football team. Smh.
    And they were released to their parents rather who had to travel some 100 miles to an active war zone to retrieve them. Irony.


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    @Max23 i am certain they are subject to juvenile court laws and we will see if federal laws against crossing state lines to commit looting may hopefully be forthcoming when and if the dust settles. This happened just blocks from where the police precinct was actively burning.
    Imagine the white privilege of crossing state lines into a rather salty area of Minneapolis in normal times (not to mention during a global pandemic and an escalating protest that was already a riot the night before) and being turned over to your parents. If they were young black men and not caught by AIM or the police who at that moment had retreated, imagine what was possible. The AIM comments were priceless. “You should have the looks on their parents faces”. The American Indians are truly amazing in their grace.

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    Our “president” trespassed in church property without permission for his photo op. The bishop is NOT happy.

    Another of the multiple daily fails by the lying coward.

    Per the WA post

    “I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop,” Budde said.

    And

    “Everything he has said and done is to inflame violence,” Budde said. “I am beyond. We need moral leadership, and he’s done everything to divide us, and has just used one of the most sacred symbols of the Judeo-Christian tradition.”
    She paused, chuckling as one does when describing a shocking, hard to believe scene, “holding it in front of one our churches and I am speechless.”
    “No one knew this was happening,” Budde said of Trump’s visit, which she said she learned of by watching the news. “I don’t want President Trump speaking for St. John’s.”

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    @Moderndaycompiler said:
    Meanwhile I live less than a mile west of the location George Floyd was murdered in public. Lived here since 1956. I have witnessed this before when I was very young. I won’t get to play music again tonight since I will be with my neighborhood block group protecting our community from primarily white agitators from outside this community like I have since last Wednesday. These provocateurs are here in unlicensed vehicles and from out of state depositing caches of gasoline and devices to start fires, mixing in with legitimate protesters and in many cases perform the very first act of vandalism or looting, driving by those of us protecting the neighborhood and shouting “your” city will burn tonight. We have had to board up most small businesses that are already struggling with covid measures. I could go on and on.
    Btw, I am white and so are the majority of my neighbors. We recognize most of these bad actors in Minneapolis do not live here and are predominantly white like ourselves as they threaten us all.

    “I may not be black but there’s a whole lot of times I wish I wasn’t white”. FZ from 1966 song Trouble Every Day. I have repeated this line for 54 years and I hope someday to retire it.

    Looters caught by the American Indian Patrol in the worst parts of the mayhem. From Eau Claire Wisconsin. There with the whole high school football team. Smh.
    And they were released to their parents rather who had to travel some 100 miles to an active war zone to retrieve them. Irony.


    retire it today man, all white people aren't the same and anyone who thinks different is not in their right mind, never let those folks influence the narrative. There have always been non-racist white people and there will always be non-racist white people, black people wouldn't have gotten free without the help of non-racist white people....
    the ironic thing about racist of all colors is that they are all the same, let them carry their own burden!

  • @kobamoto One rainy night a reporter interviewed A.J. Muste, who during the Vietnam War stood in front of the White House night after night with a candle, and he asked him: "Mr. Muste, do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night with a candle?" Muste replied, "Oh, I don't do it to change the country, I do it so the country won't change me..."

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    @kobamoto One rainy night a reporter interviewed A.J. Muste, who during the Vietnam War stood in front of the White House night after night with a candle, and he asked him: "Mr. Muste, do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night with a candle?" Muste replied, "Oh, I don't do it to change the country, I do it so the country won't change me..."

    and bless his soul, he surely knew the ultimate goal of every monster is to make you like it.

  • @Moderndaycompiler said:
    I will be with my neighborhood block group protecting our community from primarily white agitators from outside this community like I have since last Wednesday. These provocateurs are here in unlicensed vehicles and from out of state depositing caches of gasoline and devices to start fires, mixing in with legitimate protesters and in many cases perform the very first act of vandalism or looting, driving by those of us protecting the neighborhood

    Oldest trick in the book. Send in fake protestors that stir up trouble, then use that as an excuse to use force against the peaceful demonstrators.

    Seen it a hundred times at demos and gatherings here. You start noticing new faces joining the crowd, that don’t quite fit. They stir up trouble, then melt away when their job is done. In the old days we’d spot them by their shiny shoes.

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    There’s a lot of manipulation of public opinion going on, by interested agencies with the power and the money to make drastic disruptive impulse events occur swiftly upon opportunity.

    The whole Dominic Cummings thing, for example. Never mind what he did, whether he should have, etc. The very fact that we got to hear about it at all is an act of disruption by a party with an interest in disrupting opinion. We shouldn’t really know about what happened at all – that was what was supposed to occur, nobody finding out. Probably thousands of other people did the same sort of thing but those excursions of legality haven’t come to light, because they’re normal ordinary members of the public. This was information sabotage, for a reason.

  • @u0421793 said:
    There’s a lot of manipulation of public opinion going on, by interested agencies with the power and the money to make drastic disruptive impulse events occur swiftly upon opportunity.

    The whole Dominic Cummings thing, for example. Never mind what he did, whether he should have, etc. The very fact that we got to hear about it at all is an act of disruption by a party with an interest in disrupting opinion. We shouldn’t really know about what happened at all – that was what was supposed to occur, nobody finding out. Probably thousands of other people did the same sort of thing but those excursions of legality haven’t come to light, because they’re normal ordinary members of the public. This was information sabotage, for a reason.

    Thousands of other people did similar things and were fined as a result. Others have been forced to resign, or sacked, yet two high profile Tories have admitted breaching regulations and are still sitting in their jobs.

    The only sabotage going on is by the Tory government, who are sabotaging truth, democracy and their own rules.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @u0421793 said:
    There’s a lot of manipulation of public opinion going on, by interested agencies with the power and the money to make drastic disruptive impulse events occur swiftly upon opportunity.

    The whole Dominic Cummings thing, for example. Never mind what he did, whether he should have, etc. The very fact that we got to hear about it at all is an act of disruption by a party with an interest in disrupting opinion. We shouldn’t really know about what happened at all – that was what was supposed to occur, nobody finding out. Probably thousands of other people did the same sort of thing but those excursions of legality haven’t come to light, because they’re normal ordinary members of the public. This was information sabotage, for a reason.

    Thousands of other people did similar things and were fined as a result. Others have been forced to resign, or sacked, yet two high profile Tories have admitted breaching regulations and are still sitting in their jobs.

    The only sabotage going on is by the Tory government, who are sabotaging truth, democracy and their own rules.

    If anyone wants the rules torn to shreds, look no further than the Tory Party. Just as in the USA, right wing elements didn’t want lockdown in the first place.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @u0421793 said:
    There’s a lot of manipulation of public opinion going on, by interested agencies with the power and the money to make drastic disruptive impulse events occur swiftly upon opportunity.

    The whole Dominic Cummings thing, for example. Never mind what he did, whether he should have, etc. The very fact that we got to hear about it at all is an act of disruption by a party with an interest in disrupting opinion. We shouldn’t really know about what happened at all – that was what was supposed to occur, nobody finding out. Probably thousands of other people did the same sort of thing but those excursions of legality haven’t come to light, because they’re normal ordinary members of the public. This was information sabotage, for a reason.

    Thousands of other people did similar things and were fined as a result. Others have been forced to resign, or sacked, yet two high profile Tories have admitted breaching regulations and are still sitting in their jobs.

    The only sabotage going on is by the Tory government, who are sabotaging truth, democracy and their own rules.

    If anyone wants the rules torn to shreds, look no further than the Tory Party. Just as in the USA, right wing elements didn’t want lockdown in the first place.

    Incredible how many lies are being told. How many deaths did they report yesterday? 113 was it, instead of the 556 that were actually added to the list? Obviously that sort of news isn't going to go down well on the first day of relaxed lockdown restrictions, so hey, let's just lie about it.

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    All so typical (and outrageous to say the least) “look what’s going on over here” activity. This all plays well for the American president, in the short term, to get people’s eyes to turn away from the trump virus. This has been a gift for him.

    When he was elected here we kept telling ourselves as we despaired, “how much damage can he do in 4 years?” Covid-19 laid bare the myth of “American exceptionalism”. This past week has shown that a leader with a penchant for authoritarianism will eventually make that plain as well. White supremacy and slavery are this country’s original sin and until we reckon with that these viruses will continue to kill African-Americans indiscriminately.

    We are heartsick.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Moderndaycompiler said:
    I will be with my neighborhood block group protecting our community from primarily white agitators from outside this community like I have since last Wednesday. These provocateurs are here in unlicensed vehicles and from out of state depositing caches of gasoline and devices to start fires, mixing in with legitimate protesters and in many cases perform the very first act of vandalism or looting, driving by those of us protecting the neighborhood

    Oldest trick in the book. Send in fake protestors that stir up trouble, then use that as an excuse to use force against the peaceful demonstrators.

    Seen it a hundred times at demos and gatherings here. You start noticing new faces joining the crowd, that don’t quite fit. They stir up trouble, then melt away when their job is done. In the old days we’d spot them by their shiny shoes.

    Yup. The agent provocateur is a very common piece of this game, and one that helps Trump as regards the law and order role...expect to see a lot more of it.

  • @kinkujin said:
    All so typical (and outrageous to say the least) “look what’s going on over here” activity. This all plays well for the American president, in the short term, to get people’s eyes to turn away from the trump virus. This has been a gift for him.

    When he was elected here we kept telling ourselves as we despaired, “how much damage can he do in 4 years?” Covid-19 laid bare the myth of “American exceptionalism”. This past week has shown that a leader with a penchant for authoritarianism will eventually make that plain as well. White supremacy and slavery are this country’s original sin and until we reckon with that these viruses will continue to kill African-Americans indiscriminately.

    We are heartsick.

    Well said. Thank you.

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    Kinda hard to tune into JT on this subject. Sorry Homie, just keep the bud juice flowin and we be good though.

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