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pete12000

@Lil_Stu07 said:
Xequence is great but all the channel routing kills that creative buzz.

Me too, x1000. Setting things up in Xequence2 is such a headache every single time. It's too engineer-y. While it may make logical sense (to the dev), it's unintuitive (to this user), and I find myself re-learning it every time I use the app. Once set up? The manipulation of MIDI is fantastic. It should be an AUV3 integrated tightly with AUM. AUM nails MIDI mapping. Too bad the dev is wedded to the idea of X2 being the central hub.

KirbyMumbo

Trying to wait out those Korg sales

xraydash

@pete12000 said:

@Lil_Stu07 said:
Xequence is great but all the channel routing kills that creative buzz.

Me too, x1000. Setting things up in Xequence2 is such a headache every single time. It's too engineer-y. While it may make logical sense (to the dev), it's unintuitive (to this user), and I find myself re-learning it every time I use the app. Once set up? The manipulation of MIDI is fantastic. It should be an AUV3 integrated tightly with AUM. AUM nails MIDI mapping. Too bad the dev is wedded to the idea of X2 being the central hub.

Amen, brother! That is exactly my experience. I feel like I’m having to figure it out each time I use it, but once set up it’s amazing.

auxmux

AUM is hands down the best digital mixer / multitrack recorder ever designed. But it's so much much more. It's a modular audio hub, midi router, everything needed for a non-linear music production environment.

ahallam

@Krupa said:
AUM was the gateway drug that led me here

+1

anickt

@stemshade said:
Cool thing about aum is that is quicker than most to set up and experiment with sequencing different synths and loops and try out weird sequencers, fx etc. and you can then record them the individual channels while tweaking stuff. Then you can cut that up and use in regular daws. Also easier than most to midi map different controllers etc. it’s just very clean and easy and modular. Looks great too.

Exactly my way of using it. 😎👍🏼

pete12000

@xraydash said:

@pete12000 said:

@Lil_Stu07 said:
Xequence is great but all the channel routing kills that creative buzz.

Me too, x1000. Setting things up in Xequence2 is such a headache every single time. It's too engineer-y. While it may make logical sense (to the dev), it's unintuitive (to this user), and I find myself re-learning it every time I use the app. Once set up? The manipulation of MIDI is fantastic. It should be an AUV3 integrated tightly with AUM. AUM nails MIDI mapping. Too bad the dev is wedded to the idea of X2 being the central hub.

Amen, brother! That is exactly my experience. I feel like I’m having to figure it out each time I use it, but once set up it’s amazing.

And as a result, I rarely open it anymore. It's too bad.

ecou

@BCKeys said:

@ecou said:
Well I dint expect to hit a nerve with my comment on AUM. I buy app that I need. I don’t see a need for AUM in my workflow.

Why? My impression of AUM is for people who like to jam on loops and tweak synth setting for hours.

What I don’t like about Audiobus and I think AUM is that I have to add plugin to do midi sequence and more plugin record output. It is so limited. That is what a DAW is so therefore a DAW is what I need.

If you like what AUM does well more power to you my friends 😎

Actually, I was thinking the same.

But I bought AUM because I think it’s a fantastic tiny 4Mb Swiss Army knife that has been of great service to me some times, when DAW wasn’t necessarily useful or way too hard on CPU when I was using my old iPad Air 2.

I also find it frankly brilliant and stable used on live sessions, especially with romplers (B-3X, NSK, R275 etc.)

In short, not indispensable, but it' s very practical when you need it 🙂

Interesting! If I was to play in a band again I could use it.

ecou

@stemshade said:
Cool thing about aum is that is quicker than most to set up and experiment with sequencing different synths and loops and try out weird sequencers, fx etc. and you can then record them the individual channels while tweaking stuff. Then you can cut that up and use in regular daws. Also easier than most to midi map different controllers etc. it’s just very clean and easy and modular. Looks great too.

How do you do you sequencing?

JeffChasteen

@ExAsperis99 said:
AUM is the only app that I open every session. It's fast and invites creativity. It's the digital equivalent of a practice room/tape recorder, whereas a DAW (like Cubasis 3) is a recording studio. AUM not only allows you to open up channels and get down quick ideas. More important it lets you easily dump them and start over! This is what I can't seem to do in a DAW: there's so much sunk cost in getting things connected. This is why Xequence, as beautiful as it is, never clicked with me.

How did you know the exact words in my head?
What kind of sorcery is this???!!!

Pxlhg

@noob said:
AUM is the soil. Heres hoping for overview mixer, a.k.a anti scrolling madness (with occasional unwanted mute while scroll)

Using the bookmark option for channels is quite convenient and will take some of the scrolling away. Instant end to end moves when operating many channels.

ExAsperis99

@JeffChasteen said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
AUM is the only app that I open every session. It's fast and invites creativity. It's the digital equivalent of a practice room/tape recorder, whereas a DAW (like Cubasis 3) is a recording studio. AUM not only allows you to open up channels and get down quick ideas. More important it lets you easily dump them and start over! This is what I can't seem to do in a DAW: there's so much sunk cost in getting things connected. This is why Xequence, as beautiful as it is, never clicked with me.

How did you know the exact words in my head?
What kind of sorcery is this???!!!

I suspect we all feel this way! We're musicians! We don't want to work!

stemshade

@ecou said:

@stemshade said:
Cool thing about aum is that is quicker than most to set up and experiment with sequencing different synths and loops and try out weird sequencers, fx etc. and you can then record them the individual channels while tweaking stuff. Then you can cut that up and use in regular daws. Also easier than most to midi map different controllers etc. it’s just very clean and easy and modular. Looks great too.

How do you do you sequencing?

Rozeta mostly

anickt

@ecou said:
Well I dint expect to hit a nerve with my comment on AUM. I buy app that I need. I don’t see a need for AUM in my workflow.

Why? My impression of AUM is for people who like to jam on loops and tweak synth setting for hours.

What I don’t like about Audiobus and I think AUM is that I have to add plugin to do midi sequence and more plugin record output. It is so limited. That is what a DAW is so therefore a DAW is what I need.

If you like what AUM does well more power to you my friends 😎

I wouldn’t use AUM as a DAW because I find the workflow way too fiddly. I use Cubasis 3 as my DAW. It sounds like you prefer the DAW environment as well. But a lot of the pro-AUM responses here (including mine) have mentioned using AUM for other purposes than as a DAW. If those other purposes don’t fit your workflow and you don’t like the idea of using AUM as a DAW then it’s just not for you. I wouldn’t say you “hit a nerve” but more just opened the door for people to tell you how they use AUM whether as a DAW or in some other equally valid way.

SNystrom

Yeah, it's certainly not "AUM way or the highway!"

Those of us who love it are quite passionate about it, however I believe we all fully respect the opinions of other creative people who it simply doesn't work for.

JeffChasteen

@ExAsperis99 said:

@JeffChasteen said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
AUM is the only app that I open every session. It's fast and invites creativity. It's the digital equivalent of a practice room/tape recorder, whereas a DAW (like Cubasis 3) is a recording studio. AUM not only allows you to open up channels and get down quick ideas. More important it lets you easily dump them and start over! This is what I can't seem to do in a DAW: there's so much sunk cost in getting things connected. This is why Xequence, as beautiful as it is, never clicked with me.

How did you know the exact words in my head?
What kind of sorcery is this???!!!

I suspect we all feel this way! We're musicians! We don't want to work!

🤣
According to Dan Stuart, musicians are “too lazy to work and too nervous to steal”

tahiche

@anickt said:
I wouldn’t use AUM as a DAW because I find the workflow way too fiddly. I use Cubasis 3 as my DAW. It sounds like you prefer the DAW environment as well. But a lot of the pro-AUM responses here (including mine) have mentioned using AUM for other purposes than as a DAW. If those other purposes don’t fit your workflow and you don’t like the idea of using AUM as a DAW then it’s just not for you. I wouldn’t say you “hit a nerve” but more just opened the door for people to tell you how they use AUM whether as a DAW or in some other equally valid way.

AUM as a DAW replacement looks like a great idea. But it doesn’t really work.
I use AUM all the time to play around, try out something... and often some cool idea comes about. It only makes sense that you could evolve from that idea and keep working on that idea to become a song in place, AUM.
I always had this in mind. And just made a serious attempt. Documented here:

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/41284/kraut-thingy-impro-playing-with-digistix-probability-and-idensity

There’s capable midi sequencers and ways to make a song structure in AUM, using the likes of LK, Drambo, Xequence or Atom... Until you want to include audio. I don’t mean a sampler loop, I mean audio as in a vocal or guitar that has a verse and chorus progression. It’s a huge pain. Totally not worth it. As I explain in the post above I tried MuktiTrack (linear audio sequences) then switched to Drambo (sampler) and it’s just horrible.
I do feel like audio recording is neglected in the iOS app world. There’s no audio clip launcher in the style of BM3 or Zenbeats (Ableton style) that could work in AUM. Clip style audio launching with midi control to trigger and structure a song is the way in AUM as it doesn’t have a linear timeline. I think I’ve tested enough, until something big and reliable to trigger audio clips comes along, AUM is no substitute of a DAW. Every thing else is just unreliable and convulted workarounds. I remember having the same thought years ago when using Modstep.
I’m curious as to what % of iOS users actually record and work with audio recordings. Seems like not a lot. Might start a thread, I wonder if this is the case.
Cheers!

noob

nah its not a pain, its the joy of invention @tahiche , no need for a daw when u got skills in AUM+tools you know inside out.
we have lots of sample/midi trigger options already and btw, cubasis is fkin boring cheers hick glug glug pshhhh

Poppadocrock

A few more Halloween sales. Mela is very nice.

Poppadocrock

Midi Sketch by Nikolozi - Mela & NFM developer is also 40%off down to $2.99
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/midi-sketch/id718065823

SNystrom

Mela IS very nice!

I just opened it up for the first time in months. Definitely recommended!

SNystrom

I wonder how come Jam Maestro is listed at $3.99?

The developer posted is would only be $1:

perhaps the weekend prices have yet to take affect...

Wonderful value even at $3.99, though!

Thacapos

Look at the date of the post, 2019

SNystrom

🤓

Hate it when that happens! 🤣

iOSTRAKON

I’ve ran vox within AUM. I could be more precise on the timing but it’s definitely possible to write a whole album with the app.

ExAsperis99

A Green on Red reference! Wow @JeffChasteen. I just listened to a Dream Syndicate record this week. That was a very interesting time in American music.

Gavinski

Get those jazz session bands if you don't have them!

ExAsperis99

Last thought on AUM: It is definitely NOT a DAW, and I don't think it can ever replace one. But you can so easily import the stems to a DAW to do the real arranging and finishing.

Also, learn the Quantum Sync tricks in AUM and it is SO easy to make perfect loops of virtually any length — and in any time signature!

enkaytee

@Gavinski said:
Get those jazz session bands if you don't have them!

Agreed - great for grabbing loops...

enkaytee

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