Cubasis 3.0.2 + Cubasis LE 3 available

robklotzby

Generally lots of problems with IAA apps. Not loading, freezing, no sound, etc.

LFS

@Matthew said:
Damn, I literally just bought the regular version and I have an interface on the list Hopefully Apple will aprove a refund and I’ll rebuy in LE 3. Once you unlock LE with a supported device, does it stay that way or do you have to periodically reauthorize it?

Hi @Matthew,

Normally, Cubasis LE stays unlocked.
While it can happen, that re-authorization is required, it will not be the case at all when installing the Full Feature Set IAP.

Of course, re-installing the app requires to re-authorize or restore purchases, in terms of the FFS IAP.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@Aph said:
Thank you Lars and Faland. Background audio was off! Though I know it was on when I first downloaded the app this morning. I assume there is no way an old Project file could change this (I went through a lot of them testing 3.0.2 out)... since this is a global setting?
Anyway, turned Background Audio on and it works like Cubasis 2.
Thanks!

Hi @Aph,

Thank you for the updated reply.
Glad to read everything works as expeceted, now having Background Audio enabled.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@cstep333 said:
Hi, a bit off topic.... I can't login to the Steinberg Forum because of a problem and I can't send a direct message to the Admins because I am not logged in to the forum.

Can someone share an email address for the Steinberg forum so I can get some assistance with the login problem?

Thanks in advance.
C

Hi @cstep333,

Please find the information how to reach our Steinberg support in this article:
https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/206530864-Contact-support#

Best wishes,
Lars

LFS

@robklotzby said:
Been working all night with the 3.02. It still has terrible issues, mainly with 3rd party apps.
Au: Eg Pulse fails to produce different instances with different sounds. Same thing with Roli noise. If you have created several tracks with different instances, the now all play the same sound.
Fails to load following plugins from existing projects: digital D1, FM Player 2, ravenscroft, Factory, eg pulse, model one.
You have to load another app, and then load your original app again, but the sound selection is lost.
Crashes a lot.

Hi @robklotzby,

This sounds strange, since both updates (3.0.1 and 3.0.2) seem to have improved things for many users.
Are you able to get back to me with reproducible cases, step description and/or projects?

Best,
Lars

LFS

@robklotzby said:
Generally lots of problems with IAA apps. Not loading, freezing, no sound, etc.

Hi @robklotzby,

Do you have Background Audio enabled?
If so, does restarting the iPad helps?

Best,
Lars

LFS

@Tones4Christ said:
Never mimd just showed up on my purchased list🤪☺️❤️

Glad to read this, @Tones4Christ!

Best,
Lars

blakkaz

BUG REPORT

Summary/Title
Removing a group track mutes audio when it precedes grouped tracks.

Description
Steps to reproduce:

1) Create a few AUDIO tracks

[1] Drums
[2] Chords
[3] Vocals

2) Create a new GROUP track and add the AUDIO tracks

[1] Drums
[2] Chords
[3] Vocals
[4] Group

3) Move GROUP track above the AUDIO clips:

[1] Group
[2] Drums
[3] Chords
[4] Vocals

4) Delete GROUP track

[1] Drums
[2] Chords
[3] Vocals

5) BUG: Audio will no longer play from the track that was at the top of group ( in this case: [1] Drums )

Expected Results
All audio clips will continue to work after removing a preceding group track.

Actual Results
Audio will no longer play from the track that was at the top of group.

Environment
Cubasis 3.0.2
iOS 13.4
iPad Pro 10.5"

@LFS

robklotzby

@LFS said:

@robklotzby said:
Generally lots of problems with IAA apps. Not loading, freezing, no sound, etc.

Hi @robklotzby,

Do you have Background Audio enabled?
If so, does restarting the iPad helps?

Best,
Lars

Yes, background audio enabled, iPad restart. The small Cubasis navigation bar in the upper left corner doesn’t work properly, and it’s not possible to use the Cubasis keyboard to play the apps. You can only use the (IAA) Apps own keyboard, and this you can only access if you click back and forth between Cubasis and the app, until the Cubasis navigation bar disappears.

cstep333

@LFS said:

@cstep333 said:
Hi, a bit off topic.... I can't login to the Steinberg Forum because of a problem and I can't send a direct message to the Admins because I am not logged in to the forum.

Can someone share an email address for the Steinberg forum so I can get some assistance with the login problem?

Thanks in advance.
C

Hi @cstep333,

Please find the information how to reach our Steinberg support in this article:
https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-us/articles/206530864-Contact-support#

Best wishes,
Lars

Hi Lars, thanks for the response, but I have already tried this and haven't got a response.

I do wonder if anyone at Steinberg has actually tried to use the Steinberg support functions!

Thanks anyway, at least you have responded.

Samu

After all these years, one of the major issues caused by IAA apps has do with the fact their when back-ground audio is NOT enabled. (Ie. even if you manage to connect to them they stop producing output when in the background).

Also avoid having the 'host' launch the IAA app. Launch all the apps before making any IAA connections.
If a project in Cubasis relies on IAA, launch the offending IAA apps before launching Cubasis.

Sure many people do not like back-ground audio because it can drain the battery.
For example when a BM3 update disabled background audio by default people started to complain about IAA related connection issues...

Same with Cubasis, I presume it has back-ground audio disabled by default which will cause issues when trying to connect to it from other apps (AUM as an example).

@LFS worth to add to to FAQ regarding IAA is to enable background audio as well as launching the IAA apps before making connection to them to avoid IAA-Zombies.

I'm ready to say goodbye to IAA even it it would mean dropping Animoog, Nave. SoundCanvas, BeBot and a few others...
(Those apps will likely never get updated with AUv3 support).

Bon_Tempi

@LFS

I am on the fence about purchasing CB3 at the moment - and just noticed that Cubasis3 is not yet ready for supporting AUV3 sidechaining -

Is this something which is planned to get implemented in the near future (like 6-12 months) or not at all or just eventually?

Samu

@Bon_Tempi said:

@LFS

I am on the fence about purchasing CB3 at the moment - and just noticed that Cubasis3 is not yet ready for supporting AUV3 sidechaining -

Is this something which is planned to get implemented in the near future (like 6-12 months) or not at all or just eventually?

I'd love to see AUM & ApeMatrix like Midi & Audio routing in Cubasis some day...

Consider Jakob already made a plea to Steinberg in one of his videos to implement AUv3 multi-input/output support I guess it's at least on a drawing table by now

clowm

@LFS, Hi! I wrote few issues on the original thread but had no response there. Here are few:

1) Freezed midi events sometimes do not grayed out (see screenshot here https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/36307/cubasis-3-bugs-on-topic#latest)

2) Adding microlouge track to the project results in glitchy sound (always on iPhone X)

3) There are some wierd issues with microlouge interface where it sometimes changes patch after unfreezing (this one also happened with Synthmaster One), or showing knob values for a one patch and plays with the sound of another.

All of this happens in iPhone X with latest Cubasis versions (3.0.1and 3.0.2)
The thrid one is really hard to reproduce intentionally. BUT this one I got very often:
If you start with init patch, turn on chorus and change chorus mix and rate and then go and play with envelopes, the chorus settings will reset

LFS

@Bon_Tempi said:

@LFS

I am on the fence about purchasing CB3 at the moment - and just noticed that Cubasis3 is not yet ready for supporting AUV3 sidechaining -

Is this something which is planned to get implemented in the near future (like 6-12 months) or not at all or just eventually?

Hi @Bon_Tempi,

Thank you for your message.

We have many topics on our to do list, including side-chaining support.

While I‘ve wished I would, I‘m unable to give you an estimate for this.

We try our best to keep things reliable, that’s why we normally do not promise features or release dates.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@Samu said:
After all these years, one of the major issues caused by IAA apps has do with the fact their when back-ground audio is NOT enabled. (Ie. even if you manage to connect to them they stop producing output when in the background).

Also avoid having the 'host' launch the IAA app. Launch all the apps before making any IAA connections.
If a project in Cubasis relies on IAA, launch the offending IAA apps before launching Cubasis.

Sure many people do not like back-ground audio because it can drain the battery.
For example when a BM3 update disabled background audio by default people started to complain about IAA related connection issues...

Same with Cubasis, I presume it has back-ground audio disabled by default which will cause issues when trying to connect to it from other apps (AUM as an example).

@LFS worth to add to to FAQ regarding IAA is to enable background audio as well as launching the IAA apps before making connection to them to avoid IAA-Zombies.

I'm ready to say goodbye to IAA even it it would mean dropping Animoog, Nave. SoundCanvas, BeBot and a few others...
(Those apps will likely never get updated with AUv3 support).

Hi @Samu,

I‘ve noticed this too that many users stumbled about the Background Audio, which wasn’t the case in the past!

Thank you very much for sharing this useful information!

Best,
Lars

robklotzby

@LFS said:

@robklotzby said:
Been working all night with the 3.02. It still has terrible issues, mainly with 3rd party apps.
Au: Eg Pulse fails to produce different instances with different sounds. Same thing with Roli noise. If you have created several tracks with different instances, the now all play the same sound.
Fails to load following plugins from existing projects: digital D1, FM Player 2, ravenscroft, Factory, eg pulse, model one.
You have to load another app, and then load your original app again, but the sound selection is lost.
Crashes a lot.

Hi @robklotzby,

This sounds strange, since both updates (3.0.1 and 3.0.2) seem to have improved things for many users.
Are you able to get back to me with reproducible cases, step description and/or projects?

Best,
Lars

Hi Lars,

I reloaded the Apps and reinstalled the patches manually, and now it seems to work.

Bon_Tempi

@LFS said:

Thank you for your message.

We have many topics on our to do list, including side-chaining support.

While I‘ve wished I would, I‘m unable to give you an estimate for this.

We try our best to keep things reliable, that’s why we normally do not promise features or release dates.

Best,
Lars

Ok, thanks for the Info ...

LFS

@robklotzby said:

@LFS said:

@robklotzby said:
Been working all night with the 3.02. It still has terrible issues, mainly with 3rd party apps.
Au: Eg Pulse fails to produce different instances with different sounds. Same thing with Roli noise. If you have created several tracks with different instances, the now all play the same sound.
Fails to load following plugins from existing projects: digital D1, FM Player 2, ravenscroft, Factory, eg pulse, model one.
You have to load another app, and then load your original app again, but the sound selection is lost.
Crashes a lot.

Hi @robklotzby,

This sounds strange, since both updates (3.0.1 and 3.0.2) seem to have improved things for many users.
Are you able to get back to me with reproducible cases, step description and/or projects?

Best,
Lars

Hi Lars,

I reloaded the Apps and reinstalled the patches manually, and now it seems to work.

Hi @robklotzby,

This sounds great! Thanks for the update!
Glad to hear things are now working as expected!

Best,
Lars

robklotzby

Hi Lars,

Cubasis seems to continue drain the battery (20%) even after the App has been closed. I have tried to restart my iPad but the draining continues. Any idea?

Jurri

Hi , so there is something strange going on as you can see in the video. And it is driving me nuts and dont know what to do anymore, so maybe somebode or @LFS has got an answer on what to do or i will ask for my first refund ever and then just buy the full version instead which also lets you transfer the IAP's from LE2.........Advice?
In short, i've got Cubasis LE2 (for a while) which i unlocked with a UR22 MKII, after that i purchased all IAP's and the ''Full Feature". so basically the full cubasis. Without problems.
And now 2 days ago i got Cubasis LE3, again unlocked with a UR22 MKII. Now, i could transfer my IAP's over from LE2 and i bought the full feature set again. As you can see in the video, both my ipad and iphone have the same problem, when i go to the shop tab it says that everything is bought, paid and registered but when i go inside LE3 i still cannot use my AUv3's, cannot make a group track, no presets of instruments are selectable etc. etc. etc., so eventhough i paid i dont have the acces to this ''Full Feature Set''. i reinstalled the app now several times and follow the right procedures over and over but with the same result every time. i even reinstalled my iphone with a fresh iOS 13.4. getting pretty frustrated and clueless.

LFS

@Jurri said:
Hi , so there is something strange going on as you can see in the video. And it is driving me nuts and dont know what to do anymore, so maybe somebode or @LFS has got an answer on what to do or i will ask for my first refund ever and then just buy the full version instead which also lets you transfer the IAP's from LE2.........Advice?
In short, i've got Cubasis LE2 (for a while) which i unlocked with a UR22 MKII, after that i purchased all IAP's and the ''Full Feature". so basically the full cubasis. Without problems.
And now 2 days ago i got Cubasis LE3, again unlocked with a UR22 MKII. Now, i could transfer my IAP's over from LE2 and i bought the full feature set again. As you can see in the video, both my ipad and iphone have the same problem, when i go to the shop tab it says that everything is bought, paid and registered but when i go inside LE3 i still cannot use my AUv3's, cannot make a group track, no presets of instruments are selectable etc. etc. etc., so eventhough i paid i dont have the acces to this ''Full Feature Set''. i reinstalled the app now several times and follow the right procedures over and over but with the same result every time. i even reinstalled my iphone with a fresh iOS 13.4. getting pretty frustrated and clueless.

m/watch?v=PFNr_JeBRyw

Hi @Jurri,

Will have this quickly sorted with you, please check my private message.

Best,
Lars

LFS

@robklotzby said:
Hi Lars,

Cubasis seems to continue drain the battery (20%) even after the App has been closed. I have tried to restart my iPad but the draining continues. Any idea?

Hi @robklotzby,

Might be related to having "Background Mode" enabled?

Best,
Lars

justice86

Hello everybody,
I hope this is the right place for me to post (didn’t want to make a new thread since this is about Cubasis already). I am thinking of picking up Cubasis because I’m trying to switch from my Ableton workflow but I have a few questions about it that I hope experienced users and maybe @LFS (moin!) could possibly shed some light on:

1. I have several hardware synths, does Cubasis support Midi clock out to several synths simultaneously on different midi channels? This is one of the major problems I have with AUM which only supports midi clock out to one instrument (I want to simultaneously send midi clock out to a Keystep and a Sub37)
2. I have an audio interface which enabled me to unlock the LE 3 version. However, I do not use this interface in my current setup anymore but only when I’m on the go (Irig HD2, only one input). Once I unlock the Full Feature Set in LE3, am I save with this version for ever even if I potentially sell the old interface or do not have it with me (since I unlocked the full version that does not require a specific interface)?
3. Are future updates of Cubasis 3 and Cubasis 3 LE released simultaneously, or is the LE3 version somewhat ‚2nd rate“ and gets ‚treatment‘ later?
4. Can I import own samples in the drum machines available in Cubasis or do I have to stick with third party AUs?
5. Will Cubasis have a function similar to what Live calls ‚Capture‘, i.e. keeping track of input midi notes in the background although nothing is actively recorded?
6. Is it possible to define scales in the piano roll or the ‚pad‘ menu (which I cannot access right now without buying the FFS)?
7. Does/will Cubasis support keyboard shortcuts just like Garageband (I read the Apple Keyboard does not work yet)?

Thank you for your help! Any response is appreciated. Stay safe!

LFS

Hi @justice86,

1. I have several hardware synths, does Cubasis support Midi clock out to several synths simultaneously on different midi channels? This is one of the major problems I have with AUM which only supports midi clock out to one instrument (I want to simultaneously send midi clock out to a Keystep and a Sub37)

In our testings MIDI clock works as expected, other users have reported the same.
However we've also seen reports where things seem not to work as expected. Would suggest to ask the community for more feedback.

2. I have an audio interface which enabled me to unlock the LE 3 version. However, I do not use this interface in my current setup anymore but only when I’m on the go (Irig HD2, only one input). Once I unlock the Full Feature Set in LE3, am I save with this version for ever even if I potentially sell the old interface or do not have it with me (since I unlocked the full version that does not require a specific interface)?

Normally, the unlock has to be made once, but I can't guarantee for this.
Plus, re-installing the app might require another unlock.

3. Are future updates of Cubasis 3 and Cubasis 3 LE released simultaneously, or is the LE3 version somewhat ‚2nd rate“ and gets ‚treatment‘ later?

Normally, we try to release both applications simultaneously.
But there can be cases, where we will not be able to do this.

4. Can I import own samples in the drum machines available in Cubasis or do I have to stick with third party AUs?

The MiniSampler allows to create own instruments, using your samples.

5. Will Cubasis have a function similar to what Live calls ‚Capture‘, i.e. keeping track of input midi notes in the background although nothing is actively recorded?

No.

6. Is it possible to define scales in the piano roll or the ‚pad‘ menu (which I cannot access right now without buying the FFS)?

Not yet supported.

7. Does/will Cubasis support keyboard shortcuts just like Garageband (I read the Apple Keyboard does not work yet)?

Not yet supported, but added to our list.

Thank you for your help! Any response is appreciated. Stay safe!

Stay safe yourself, too!
And I suggest to check out with the community yourself, before making your decision!

Best,
Lars

Jurri

@LFS said:

@Jurri said:
Hi , so there is something strange going on as you can see in the video. And it is driving me nuts and dont know what to do anymore, so maybe somebode or @LFS has got an answer on what to do or i will ask for my first refund ever and then just buy the full version instead which also lets you transfer the IAP's from LE2.........Advice?
In short, i've got Cubasis LE2 (for a while) which i unlocked with a UR22 MKII, after that i purchased all IAP's and the ''Full Feature". so basically the full cubasis. Without problems.
And now 2 days ago i got Cubasis LE3, again unlocked with a UR22 MKII. Now, i could transfer my IAP's over from LE2 and i bought the full feature set again. As you can see in the video, both my ipad and iphone have the same problem, when i go to the shop tab it says that everything is bought, paid and registered but when i go inside LE3 i still cannot use my AUv3's, cannot make a group track, no presets of instruments are selectable etc. etc. etc., so eventhough i paid i dont have the acces to this ''Full Feature Set''. i reinstalled the app now several times and follow the right procedures over and over but with the same result every time. i even reinstalled my iphone with a fresh iOS 13.4. getting pretty frustrated and clueless.

m/watch?v=PFNr_JeBRyw

Hi @Jurri,

Will have this quickly sorted with you, please check my private message.

Best,
Lars

@LFS awesome

LFS

@Jurri said:

@LFS said:

@Jurri said:
Hi , so there is something strange going on as you can see in the video. And it is driving me nuts and dont know what to do anymore, so maybe somebode or @LFS has got an answer on what to do or i will ask for my first refund ever and then just buy the full version instead which also lets you transfer the IAP's from LE2.........Advice?
In short, i've got Cubasis LE2 (for a while) which i unlocked with a UR22 MKII, after that i purchased all IAP's and the ''Full Feature". so basically the full cubasis. Without problems.
And now 2 days ago i got Cubasis LE3, again unlocked with a UR22 MKII. Now, i could transfer my IAP's over from LE2 and i bought the full feature set again. As you can see in the video, both my ipad and iphone have the same problem, when i go to the shop tab it says that everything is bought, paid and registered but when i go inside LE3 i still cannot use my AUv3's, cannot make a group track, no presets of instruments are selectable etc. etc. etc., so eventhough i paid i dont have the acces to this ''Full Feature Set''. i reinstalled the app now several times and follow the right procedures over and over but with the same result every time. i even reinstalled my iphone with a fresh iOS 13.4. getting pretty frustrated and clueless.

m/watch?v=PFNr_JeBRyw

Hi @Jurri,

Will have this quickly sorted with you, please check my private message.

Best,
Lars

@LFS awesome

...

blakkaz

BUG REPORT

Summary/Title
Drum Pad setting is not remembered for custom MiniSampler instruments

Description
Steps to reproduce:

1) Create a MniSampler preset
2) Open KEYS and select PADS
3) Enable EDIT
4) Select DRUMS
5) Disable EDIT
6) Close pads
7) Open pads
8) BUG: Keyboard has reverted to CHORDS mode

Expected Results
Pads will remember DRUMS/CHORDS mode when using a custom MiniSampler preset

Actual Results
Pads will revert to CHORD mode after closing keyboard

Environment
Cubasis 3.0.2
iOS 13.4
iPad Pro 10.5"

@LFS

blakkaz

Also, the MiniSampler doesn't latch the AUTOPLAY mode when editing, but I imagine that has already been reported?

LFS

@blakkaz said:

BUG REPORT

Summary/Title
Drum Pad setting is not remembered for custom MiniSampler instruments

Hi @blakkaz,

Thank you for your message.

Your report has been added to our bugbase:

CBT-1606
Drum Pad setting is not remembered for custom MiniSampler instruments

Best,
Lars