MM-1 MuteMaster by Kai Aras

ChancedMusic

Anyone have a video of this running in CB3 or NS2? Would love to see how it fits into a standard DAW setup.

Charlesalbert

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jameslondon74

@ka010 said:

@jameslondon74 said:

th pads 3-6, I click on them with MIDI LEARN enabled and nothing happens. (1 and 2 has a pop up box with the usual midi cc assign function)
At the moment It'll only let you map the channels that have an instance assigned, e.g the ones you can toggle. It's a bit of an oversight on my end and will be fixed with the next update.

That would make sense, but good to know for sure. Yeah it would be good to be able to map regardless of whether the channel is active, so that it can be saved as an AU state.

jameslondon74

@ka010 said:

@jameslondon74 said:

@jameslondon74 said:

@Gavinski said:
@jameslondon74 that ability is already there! You just set bpm as the channel change source.

But I still use the pads to trigger channel mutes manually? And it's in time?

I don't think that's right.

For example - Ch1 is active, and I want to hit Ch2 but have it come in on the start of the next bar.

Oh, thats what you meant, no it doesn't do that at the moment, could be interesting for a future update though.

Yes, switching channels mid performance is tricky enough without having to be absolutely bang on in time, especially if the patterns being muted/unmuted are complex.

What you will end up with is an amazing Ableton Live style set up with flawlessly synced channel switches.

Perhaps options for channel switching to follow the host clock (like BeatMaker 3 and Modstep) or not.

jameslondon74

When using for ambient performance with atmospheric textures etc, it would be nice to have much longer fades, both in and out.

Gavinski

+1 to that

jameslondon74

@jameslondon74 said:

@ka010 said:

@jameslondon74 said:

@jameslondon74 said:

@Gavinski said:
@jameslondon74 that ability is already there! You just set bpm as the channel change source.

But I still use the pads to trigger channel mutes manually? And it's in time?

I don't think that's right.

For example - Ch1 is active, and I want to hit Ch2 but have it come in on the start of the next bar.

Oh, thats what you meant, no it doesn't do that at the moment, could be interesting for a future update though.

Yes, switching channels mid performance is tricky enough without having to be absolutely bang on in time, especially if the patterns being muted/unmuted are complex.

What you will end up with is an amazing Ableton Live style set up with flawlessly synced channel switches.

Perhaps options for channel switching to follow the host clock (like BeatMaker 3 and Modstep) or not.

I just had another little play, and you could force the channel to only switch at the start of a pattern/sequence.

iOSTRAKON

Used MM-1 to mix up 4 tracks of Vox

motmeister

This is an app I’d SO love to love. I just read 9 pages of forum posts, and beyond what very simple functionality I figured out on my own (which is all I could glean from two videos), I can’t get it to do anything that resembles the description in the App Store. Actually my bread maker has more explicit instructions. Btw, my bread maker didn’t come with videos that I have to stop/start with hands covered with flour. Could we please have a manual or “getting started” doc?

I don’t regret spending $5 because the dev is genius. I’m off to learn the time-consuming old-fashioned way, by trial and error.

iOSTRAKON

New tutorial vid is up

Gavinski

Remember that there are a couple of bugs in the utility section, so those can throw you off being able to figure it out. But mostly if you read the post Kai wrote explaining it, and work through that section systematically, you'll get a pretty good grasp of it before too long

CracklePot

@Gavinski said:
Remember that there are a couple of bugs in the utility section, so those can throw you off being able to figure it out. But mostly if you read the post Kai wrote explaining it, and work through that section systematically, you'll get a pretty good grasp of it before too long

What bugs were those, again?
Can’t find them in this thread.

Gavinski

The 'key' button in one of 'chance source' or trigger source, forget which, is not working. Also the pend button in Pattern Directio is not working.

CracklePot

@Gavinski said:
The 'key' button in one of 'chance source' or trigger source, forget which, is not working. Also the pend button in Pattern Directio is not working.

Cool.
Thanks!

motmeister

When you reset AUM transport to beat1 measure1 (clear it), why doesn’t it reset all instances of MuteMaster? For example, why doesn’t it reset ACTIVE PATTERN to 1 and the number of triggers received back to none? If you stop the AUM transport during pattern2 for example, even if you reset AUM to beat1 measure1, if you don’t somehow reset MM, it appears to start where it left off. This can be confusing if you’re trying to figure out how to use the app. In the video just above, as long as you start MM clean, you can reproduce what the video does, but without some manual reset of MM, you don’t get the same result the second time.

aleyas

Is it possible to get more than 6 channels, or to use 2 instance groups for a total 12?

topaz

Hi @ka010 great app :-)

I can crash it pretty easily in aum just by changing divisions when playing back.

AUM Project attached ;-)

iOSTRAKON

xraydash

@motmeister said:
When you reset AUM transport to beat1 measure1 (clear it), why doesn’t it reset all instances of MuteMaster? For example, why doesn’t it reset ACTIVE PATTERN to 1 and the number of triggers received back to none? If you stop the AUM transport during pattern2 for example, even if you reset AUM to beat1 measure1, if you don’t somehow reset MM, it appears to start where it left off. This can be confusing if you’re trying to figure out how to use the app. In the video just above, as long as you start MM clean, you can reproduce what the video does, but without some manual reset of MM, you don’t get the same result the second time.

I noticed this too and was confused by the behavior. For example, with divisions set on 2, after a stop/reset transport/play it would start switching patterns on 2,4,6,8 of the sequencer instead of 3,5,7,1. It seems like even manually turning the active pattern dial on MM1 to one and restarting the transport in Aum doesn’t always line things up either.

auxmux

@aleyas said:
Is it possible to get more than 6 channels, or to use 2 instance groups for a total 12?

Asked this earlier in thread. Unsure. I'll just need to try it and see.

Jumpercollins

@xraydash said:

@motmeister said:
When you reset AUM transport to beat1 measure1 (clear it), why doesn’t it reset all instances of MuteMaster? For example, why doesn’t it reset ACTIVE PATTERN to 1 and the number of triggers received back to none? If you stop the AUM transport during pattern2 for example, even if you reset AUM to beat1 measure1, if you don’t somehow reset MM, it appears to start where it left off. This can be confusing if you’re trying to figure out how to use the app. In the video just above, as long as you start MM clean, you can reproduce what the video does, but without some manual reset of MM, you don’t get the same result the second time.

I noticed this too and was confused by the behavior. For example, with divisions set on 2, after a stop/reset transport/play it would start switching patterns on 2,4,6,8 of the sequencer instead of 3,5,7,1. It seems like even manually turning the active pattern dial on MM1 to one and restarting the transport in Aum doesn’t always line things up either.

Yes agreed it very confusing

motmeister

I’m encouraged rather than discouraged by comments here about teensy little bugs (or misunderstood features?). I think they’ll likely lead to the app being more stable. On the (very) bright side, I took a side trip down CC lane and wrote an easy Mozaic script for converting 6 notes to Channel on/off toggles. I added a Xequence2 connection to play those notes (and send the CCs), added some synths, and got nice results. Coupled with the eventual understanding of how the rest of the apps work, I can see myself using this quite a bit.

topaz

Definitely some timing inconsistencies happening, sometimes triggering a bar early when restarting aum with MM-1 using simple 8 bar phrases.

motmeister

@Jumpercollins said:

@xraydash said:

@motmeister said:
When you reset AUM transport to beat1 measure1 (clear it), why doesn’t it reset all instances of MuteMaster? For example, why doesn’t it reset ACTIVE PATTERN to 1 and the number of triggers received back to none? If you stop the AUM transport during pattern2 for example, even if you reset AUM to beat1 measure1, if you don’t somehow reset MM, it appears to start where it left off. This can be confusing if you’re trying to figure out how to use the app. In the video just above, as long as you start MM clean, you can reproduce what the video does, but without some manual reset of MM, you don’t get the same result the second time.

I noticed this too and was confused by the behavior. For example, with divisions set on 2, after a stop/reset transport/play it would start switching patterns on 2,4,6,8 of the sequencer instead of 3,5,7,1. It seems like even manually turning the active pattern dial on MM1 to one and restarting the transport in Aum doesn’t always line things up either.

Yes agreed it very confusing

At one point, and I’m still not sure why, pattern switching just seemed stuck too. With two different patterns, and last pattern set to two, It just wasn’t moving. Because of this restart behavior I couldn’t figure out if I was doing something wrong. My expectations of what SHOULD have been happening may have been incorrect.

topaz

Still, it’s brilliant. Just needs some ironing out and MM-1 is pure AUM Automation gold ;-)

CracklePot

@auxmux said:

@aleyas said:
Is it possible to get more than 6 channels, or to use 2 instance groups for a total 12?

Asked this earlier in thread. Unsure. I'll just need to try it and see.

I don’t think so.
There is no way to separate the instances into 2 or more groups.
All instances communicate, so only 6 Channels to choose from.

Unless you feel like setting up in 2 different hosts, like AB and AUM.
You could have a group of up to 6 channels per host, with different settings for each host.

[Deleted User]

@iOSTRAKON said:
Used MM-1 to mix up 4 tracks of Vox

That’s good that, I like the graphics too. I’d dismissed this app but that’s got me interested.

iOSTRAKON

Thanks, once you set it up it’s great for AUM sessions

@MonzoPro said:

@iOSTRAKON said:
Used MM-1 to mix up 4 tracks of Vox

That’s good that, I like the graphics too. I’d dismissed this app but that’s got me interested.

topaz

@ka010 can we please get some bugs acknowledged and a time frame for fixes.

Mainly due to the timing/bar triggering etc with AUM. ?

SpookyZoo

@iOSTRAKON Good work on these tutorials! Thanks.