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miRack — now AUv3! — for Beginners

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  • Hah, the update for the beta is going to make every mirack fan shit their pants. I’m cleaning myself up now.

  • pretty cool that @mifki is still hard working and releasing new updates, it is not that ommon that after such long time app is still getting high quality updates !

    @mifky if you are around here, put some symbolic IAP into miRack, i want to support you more and i believe lot of people would do same !

  • @dendy said:
    pretty cool that @mifki is still hard working and releasing new updates, it is not that ommon that after such long time app is still getting high quality updates !

    @mifky if you are around here, put some symbolic IAP into miRack, i want to support you more and i believe lot of people would do same !

    With you on this, I would immediately pay more for miRack to support the ongoing development 👍 best app on iOS in my opinion

  • edited September 2023

    Hey, so yeah, I meant to post here. There's a new beta with a AUv3 Host module.

    On the above topic, this will be a paid module (or a bunch of) once released. I was mainly working on support for paid modules/plugins ;) and this seemed like a good opportunity to finally add a host module and test that stuff on it. I may also add a "tip" IAP as well as a few people asked about it (thanks!), but also don't forget you can donate to module developers as well.

    I have a few more great things planned and a lot of smaller ones. I wasn't releasing lately as often as would like to, but that doesn't mean the development has stopped or anything like that.

  • @mifki said:
    Hey, so yeah, I meant to post here. There's a new beta with a AUv3 Host module. It's been long time since the last beta, so if anyone wants to join, drop me a line.

    On the above topic, this will be a paid module (or a bunch of) once released. I was mainly working on support for paid modules/plugins ;) and this seemed like a good opportunity to finally add a host module and test that stuff on it. I may also add a "tip" IAP as well as a few people asked about it (thanks!), but also don't forget you can donate to module developers as well.

    I have a few more great things planned and a lot of smaller ones. I wasn't releasing lately as often as would like to, but that doesn't mean the development has stopped or anything like that.

    @mifki Thats a big upgrade pretty cool.

  • I’m really happy to see the app continue to grow, it’s one of my favorites and it was my gateway to modular synthesis. Thanks for making it available and introducing me and hopefully many others to the fun of modular. It did kind of lead to a hardware modular synth addiction but that was probably always inevitable for me

  • @mifki said:
    Hey, so yeah, I meant to post here. There's a new beta with a AUv3 Host module. It's been long time since the last beta, so if anyone wants to join, drop me a line.

    On the above topic, this will be a paid module (or a bunch of) once released. I was mainly working on support for paid modules/plugins ;) and this seemed like a good opportunity to finally add a host module and test that stuff on it. I may also add a "tip" IAP as well as a few people asked about it (thanks!), but also don't forget you can donate to module developers as well.

    I have a few more great things planned and a lot of smaller ones. I wasn't releasing lately as often as would like to, but that doesn't mean the development has stopped or anything like that.

    Wow! Congratulations @mifki i can’t begin to imagine the possibilities 😄 please do go ahead with the tip IAP 👍

  • Glad to hear that. Even though I'm making iOS software and all that, I'm one of those people who thinks sensor/touch interfaces are no match for real hardware ones. Luckily in this case you can use all of the different stuff together pretty well.

  • @mifki said:
    Glad to hear that. Even though I'm making iOS software and all that, I'm one of those people who thinks sensor/touch interfaces are no match for real hardware ones. Luckily in this case you can use all of the different stuff together pretty well.

    I agree there are advantages to hardware modules but the sheer possibilities of what I can do in MiRack would be astronomical in cost to replicate in hardware

  • wow! great news!

  • edited September 2023

    @mifki said:
    Glad to hear that. Even though I'm making iOS software and all that, I'm one of those people who thinks sensor/touch interfaces are no match for real hardware ones. Luckily in this case you can use all of the different stuff together pretty well.

    Well, recently i bought some modules and built small modular rack (about 160 HP size) - litarlly because i love miRack and wanted to try real hardware experience ..

    After 2 months of playing with it i gave up - i capitulated and admitted that miRack is for me SO MUCH more fun than physical modular :)))) Literally hated constant cables mess + need of checking if all oscillators are right in tune with rest of stuff playing in DAW ..

  • @dendy said:

    @mifki said:
    Glad to hear that. Even though I'm making iOS software and all that, I'm one of those people who thinks sensor/touch interfaces are no match for real hardware ones. Luckily in this case you can use all of the different stuff together pretty well.

    Well, recently i bought some modules and built small modular rack (about 160 HP size) - litarlly because i love miRack and wanted to try real hardware experience ..

    After 2 months of playing with it i gave up - i capitulated and admitted that miRack is for me SO MUCH more fun than physical modular :)))) Literally hated constant cables mess + need of checking if all oscillators are right in tune with rest of stuff playing in DAW ..

    Was gonna say the same. I love semi modular synths (the Dreadbox stuff is amazing) but I think I prefer fully modular on iOS over physical frustrations of patching and unpatching Eurorack.

  • @mifki said:
    Hey, so yeah, I meant to post here. There's a new beta with a AUv3 Host module. It's been long time since the last beta, so if anyone wants to join, drop me a line.

    On the above topic, this will be a paid module (or a bunch of) once released. I was mainly working on support for paid modules/plugins ;) and this seemed like a good opportunity to finally add a host module and test that stuff on it. I may also add a "tip" IAP as well as a few people asked about it (thanks!), but also don't forget you can donate to module developers as well.

    I have a few more great things planned and a lot of smaller ones. I wasn't releasing lately as often as would like to, but that doesn't mean the development has stopped or anything like that.

    I’ll drop you a line. Would love to try the beta. AUV3 hosting is huge. MiRack is such an excellent app. So there will be additional paid modules on top of the host module? As in paid individual Eurorack modules?

  • edited September 2023

    After upgrading from my old Air 2 to an iPad Pro, MiRack feels like an entirely new experience. Now It seamlessly integrates with other synths or new instances of MiRack with minimum DSP usage. Glad it's still being developed and would like buy IAP for further support.
    By the way, @mifki, I recall you mentioning a few years ago that Stoermelder couldn't be incorporated due to licensing issues. I was wondering if there's a possibility of creating something similar to CV-Map, Macro, Mirror, and Strip to enhance MiRack's capabilities? A Strip with attenuverters alone is a game-changer, allowing you to select knobs, apply your desired curve and scale, and randomize it until you find that perfect sound. My old racks in VCV, with the Strip infusion, turned into instant noise machines. Of course, one can randomize every module, but in that case, users can't exercise precise control, and it requires opening the menu every time.
    P.S. Not a feature request, just asking ;)

  • You mean we can host miRack inside miRack!!! Rackception!!!

  • @hghon said:

    @mifki said:
    Glad to hear that. Even though I'm making iOS software and all that, I'm one of those people who thinks sensor/touch interfaces are no match for real hardware ones. Luckily in this case you can use all of the different stuff together pretty well.

    I agree there are advantages to hardware modules but the sheer possibilities of what I can do in MiRack would be astronomical in cost to replicate in hardware

    Yes, and in the software world no one will ever touch my cables :)

  • @MAtrixplan said:

    @hghon said:

    @mifki said:
    Glad to hear that. Even though I'm making iOS software and all that, I'm one of those people who thinks sensor/touch interfaces are no match for real hardware ones. Luckily in this case you can use all of the different stuff together pretty well.

    I agree there are advantages to hardware modules but the sheer possibilities of what I can do in MiRack would be astronomical in cost to replicate in hardware

    Yes, and in the software world no one will ever touch my cables :)

    Yea if I had a room like that no one’s stepping into it 😂

  • While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

  • @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

  • @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    Woah how did I miss this app? I can think of a couple of uses already for this. Thanks Wim!

  • wimwim
    edited September 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    Woah how did I miss this app? I can think of a couple of uses already for this. Thanks Wim!

    I've had some troubles making Wireless Audio AUv3 work lately. So big caveat there.

    Both have difficult to deal with latency - especially Sonobus. I never use either after dabbling with them to satisfy my curiosity. I think audio over wiFi is more trouble than it's worth.

  • @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    Woah how did I miss this app? I can think of a couple of uses already for this. Thanks Wim!

    I've had some troubles making Wireless Audio AUv3 work lately. So big caveat there.

    Both have difficult to deal with latency - especially Sonobus. I never use either after dabbling with them to satisfy my curiosity. I think audio over wiFi is more trouble than it's worth.

    Ah that’s a bummer. I wonder if there’s even any way to get rid of latency (or even drop it way down) when it comes to wireless audio with AUV3s through hosts like that.

    I guess the KQ app can work for that, just not between devices like this one can.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @wim said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    Woah how did I miss this app? I can think of a couple of uses already for this. Thanks Wim!

    I've had some troubles making Wireless Audio AUv3 work lately. So big caveat there.

    Both have difficult to deal with latency - especially Sonobus. I never use either after dabbling with them to satisfy my curiosity. I think audio over wiFi is more trouble than it's worth.

    Ah that’s a bummer. I wonder if there’s even any way to get rid of latency (or even drop it way down) when it comes to wireless audio with AUV3s through hosts like that.

    I guess the KQ app can work for that, just not between devices like this one can.

    Reduce audio latency acceptably over WiFi? Ulikely. Even over peer-to-peer networking it's not great. Ethernet works OK.

  • @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    I didn’t explain what I meant correctly. I meant send/receive within patches instead of cables that stretch 3 rows and 10 modules across large patches 😄 if the patches are large enough say I want to connect my clock to another module some distance away, send/receive ports would sort that out without having to lock and hide all cables

  • @hghon said:

    @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    I didn’t explain what I meant correctly. I meant send/receive within patches instead of cables that stretch 3 rows and 10 modules across large patches 😄 if the patches are large enough say I want to connect my clock to another module some distance away, send/receive ports would sort that out without having to lock and hide all cables

    Oh yeh, now I get it. I've seen that before. Seems confusing to track to me but sure does clean things up.

  • @wim said:

    @hghon said:

    @wim said:

    @hghon said:
    While we’re at it @mifki is there any possibility of wireless send/receive modules?

    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    I didn’t explain what I meant correctly. I meant send/receive within patches instead of cables that stretch 3 rows and 10 modules across large patches 😄 if the patches are large enough say I want to connect my clock to another module some distance away, send/receive ports would sort that out without having to lock and hide all cables

    Oh yeh, now I get it. I've seen that before. Seems confusing to track to me but sure does clean things up.

    Used them a lot building stuff in Reaktor, maybe a small text module next to them can keep their source/destination clear

  • @wim said:
    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    I tried both of them quickly now, they both seem to work. Sonobus seems to have a better latency and obviously more options in general. However I'm getting a lot of dropped packets, not sure whether it's something wrong with my router or what. Make sure to change streaming format to PCM if you want to send CVs. As pointed out above though both are probably not quite suitable for production use over WiFi unfortunately.

    @hghon said:
    I didn’t explain what I meant correctly. I meant send/receive within patches instead of cables that stretch 3 rows and 10 modules across large patches 😄 if the patches are large enough say I want to connect my clock to another module some distance away, send/receive ports would sort that out without having to lock and hide all cables

    Yeah that's how I understood it myself initially, yes, that's a good idea, I'll add it to my list.

  • @mifki : unfortunately dropped packets seem unavoidable. It seems like it is the nature of WiFi.

  • @mifki said:

    @wim said:
    Wireless Audio AUv3 might work once we can load AUv3's. Maybe Sonobus too. Latency is always a big-ass problem with these though. If these guys can't make it more usable/reliable after all their efforts then it seems like an uphill battle for someone with other things on their hands.

    I tried both of them quickly now, they both seem to work. Sonobus seems to have a better latency and obviously more options in general. However I'm getting a lot of dropped packets, not sure whether it's something wrong with my router or what. Make sure to change streaming format to PCM if you want to send CVs. As pointed out above though both are probably not quite suitable for production use over WiFi unfortunately.

    @hghon said:
    I didn’t explain what I meant correctly. I meant send/receive within patches instead of cables that stretch 3 rows and 10 modules across large patches 😄 if the patches are large enough say I want to connect my clock to another module some distance away, send/receive ports would sort that out without having to lock and hide all cables

    Yeah that's how I understood it myself initially, yes, that's a good idea, I'll add it to my list.

    I don’t remember where I saw this, but one implementation I liked for this was the ability to assign cables to different layers, and the those layers can br hidden independently.

  • @mifki Great to see the AU host beta. It would be awesome if there was clock input option for fx, and also a way to trigger notes such as for drum machine AUs.

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