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Spat out my coffee laughing.
Absolutely nothing, but it did nothing in the industry it started in, the corruption/sexism is as worse as it ever was, and the casting couches get nicer by the week.
Which as is will happen with this new movement, is always and will always be the case, ruthless scumbags always find a way
Typical Alabama voter.
I’d have thought if it was that wide spread and in the public domain it would have caused outrage.
Quite honestly I'd vote for a hatstand if it had a chance of getting Trump out of office. Normally I'd care more, but right now doing anything that might keep Trump in office is the last thing on my mind.
Black lives matter.
Thank you for making my point. In this case the motivation to vote “out” rather than vote in true change and reform serves only to lower the pyrotechnics of the rhetoric, but does nothing to cure any of the ills of a broken society. Band-aids, Pyrrhic victories and self serving parades will be the alternative. Entropy into totalitarianism. Some times Evil wins, some times Lesser Evil wins.
So what were the practical results of Black Out Tuesday?
I have to admit, I spent 20 minutes tonight trying to figure out why I couldn't get any images to load in Twitter. Thought something was broken and kept refreshing.
Not sure how I'm making your point here. You said that Biden won't be different, but I think ANYONE would be different enough to consider them. While Biden might not be the ideal candidate for me (and probably for many others), he has two things going for him that Trump doesn't - he actually knows something about American politics, and he has shown that he understands accountability.
different point of view...
same things happened few years ago, police murdered guy named Kelly Thomas.
He was white. No protests. No riots.
Are there any proofs that this policeman was racist and what he did was because of skin color ? From what i known this policeman was sadistic prick, he had many incidents before. Sadly US police is full of such pricks.
I'm not saying that black people are not discriminated - they are. For example in Slovakia is lot of discrimination agains LGBTI people, even by governent. There is lot of discrimination agains all kinds of "minority" by "majority". There is even discrimination of white people by black people in regions where situation is switched and black is majority. It's sad and dumb, any discrimination, just because somebody is different than majority, is just fail.
But i'm saying that this time it looks to me that reaction to this sad event turned into wrong direction and it was hihacked by some people to push their agenda. Antifa extremists are doing bad things, groups of looters are using situation, and dumb Trump is not helping with his reactions at all.
People should calm down. I think main topic of those protest should be requesting total reorganisation of Police, change process of recruiting, adding deepmpsycholofical tests adressing potential agressivity, and re-test all
existing policemen. And fire those who will not pass without hesitating. US police often acts like nazzis against people of all color skins. Process how Police recruits new people should be really deeply reconsidered, to avoid happening such terrible events against all people of all skin colors.
Hopefully more protest, less debris.
@dendy all bad policemen or women etc. should be held accountable for their actions, regardless. It was only when people started to show their anger at the police, charges were brought and so far as I know, against only one at this time.
I’ll take the lesser evil option, thanks.
I'm in. Vote this asshole out White House.
Yes - that's good.. my point was i think this time less talking about racism and more about police brutality in general, no matter of race. Because this is true problem behind this event (and many other similar cases), especially in US, because american police is infamous by its brutality and overusing of lethat force. US police basically uses method not much different from german gestapo during WW2.
True, I believe that another review of Minneapolis police procedures has been instigated, one prior with recommendations was not implemented, I believe. But quite a few police forces - departments should also look at their own operation and procedures too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
@syrupcore hey mate, you get wrong what i wanted to say .. my main point was people should organise massive protests same way back then like they are acting now (i mean that peaceful part of protests) ..people should push hard on police and demand change of police internal processes when recruiting people to avoid having such dumb sadistic pricks working for them ..
i may be wrong from behind ocean, but from what i'm see in media, US police looks pretty gestapo-like not only agains black people but agains all people at all ..
once gain - don't get me wrong - i really hate racism and discrimination of all kinds, people who are looking from above to other just because of skin color, origin, race or sexual orientation are just plain dumb.
@dendy
Please don't dilute the issue at hand. When the US abolished segregation from a legal point of view, they didn’t' suddenly fix it. They didn't give the black people in the poorest neighbourhoods the same access to education, health care or job opportunities. They didn't move them into better housing. They didn't do anything much at all.
When Colin Kaepernick took a stand by taking a knee, the Vice President didn't applaud. He turned his back in disgust and marched off. The right wing media and even the POTUS turned and twisted the narrative to stoke divisiveness, made it about the flag, and vilified him for being unpatriotic. He should be given a medal, but has instead been ostracised.
It's rotten from the top down. The top is especially rotten.
Whilst it's true that white people aren't completely immune to police brutality, they are not specifically targeted because of the colour their skin. It's not the same.
I can't pretend to understand what it's like being black and especially not a black American. All I can do is to try and learn about the issues and also to try and see where my own country fails (the Tory government's abhorrent treatment of the Windrush generation for example) but I can equally see that the system is incredibly hard to fix when it's run by the same old white men that cause the problem.
This issue is about black lives. I can't see how diluting that message is helping. If you somehow could fix the issues being protested, then everybody would benefit regardless of the colour of their skin.
Divisiveness is a cancer.
Dendy did it not strike you that they did not protest for the white man abused by cops because there wasn't a reason to protest? Did you not think that white men have not been systematically mistreated by cops in America, and so white people had nothing to protest? Do you think this came out of nowhere? You think there is discrimination in the US but not by cops or this particular cop who had a history of discriminating even before he beat the shit out of this man in the vehicle and then held his knee on his neck for nearly nine minutes?
Did you do any of your own digging before asking these questions? Do you have any real understanding of systematic racism in the US? Have you ever even tried to understand before now?
For over 400 years black people have been terrorized in more ways than you can fathom in this country. They have been murdered by cops at alarming rates well before cell phones caught them on camera. They have been abused by a force that began as slave patrols but now claim to protect and serve.
And you think people should calm down?
The United States was founded on a violent revolution. So was every revolution ever.
Please dig and do research before giving advice on what people in the US should do.
Especially if you "really hate racism" as much as you say.
Ok, so after we solve problem of racism and inequality - policemen will then beat black people just same way like they are beating white people. Is that what protesters wants to achieve ? Don't think so.
I don't care if that prick murdered that poor man because of skin color or just because he was sadistic jerk. Doesn't change anything on fact he killed man - he should go to jail with exceptional punishment. That simple it is for me, rest is just noise takink attention out of center of problem. That's my way of expressing respect to all people of all skin colors - i totally don't care about color skin, i care about fact if people are treated with reaspect and law, especially by police.
Current POTUS is jerk no doubt. But he is jerk not because he is racist, he is racist because he is jerk. Subtle but major diffference.
Dumb people will always found reason to discriminate other people. It is skin color, religion, sexual orientation, gender - doesn't matter. Dumb people are just dumb. You need fight agains dumb people in general, not just agains racists, because this is, well, racism.
To be honest, i'm white but i would never choose US as country to live because of amount of police brutality there...
You just don’t get it. At all.
Imagine seeing domestic abuse cases and the stats show that women are at a much greater risk of being abused by a man, then women decide to protest because they’re sick of being abused, then some men come and say “hey some men are abused too. We need to make this about ending the abuse of men and women.”
Just imagine....
You don’t have to imagine. Go to any reddit thread on violence against women, and there are always posts from ‘people’ derailing the current discussion and talking about male abuse victims (who deserve support of course). It’s a very insidious form of sabotaging a debate, because there are people who are legitimately too stupid/defensive to understand that discussing one issue doesn’t mean ignoring a complementary issue. Nor does talking (Or protesting) about an issue prevent protesting or talking about a different issue. That’s the point. To say ‘all lives matter’ or ‘police brutality is the real issue’ is to ignore that some people are disproportionally affected. Saying black lives matter IS saying that all lives matter. So say black lives matter.
Seriously dude?
First, it is such an honor for me to be allowed a voice on this forum. I gave up social media years ago because of the lack of reason and common sense of so many of the participants. Seeing twitter feeds masquerading as news stories and comments that follow tweets assures me that little has changed. I appreciate the multiculturalism and high level of intelligence found on this forum.
I get that and if I lived in a swing state, I probably would to. I live amongst a bunch of fat, white, inbred, slack-jawed yokels who have embraced the cult of Trump and enter the voting booth to vote straight party line without hesitation. Only because of a special election were we able to send Doug Jones to DC instead of Roy Moore.
Joe Biden’s mouth and voting record has shown he is NO FRIEND whatsoever of the Black Lives Matter movement.
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Contrary to what the propaganda the orange emperor vomits out, Antifa is not a group, it is an idea based on what? Anti-fascism! The Animal Liberation Front is a group with Antifa ideas. Hopefully this idea won’t have to materialize into an actual group because we will probably be calling them Freedom Fighters and the Resistance.
Finally this conversation has to stay focused on the ingrained racism of the United States. I am as white as they come, but I have a young grandson who is as black as Barack. I am pissed and I fear for my grandson’s future in a country that still judges a man based on the color of his skin.
This is not the America I want him growing up in.
Public enemy number one right there.
Decent op-ed on the worthlessness of black out Tuesday: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/03/blackout-tuesday-george-floyd-social-media
We live in a pro Tory constituency. But if every person I’ve spoken to, or who has made comments along the lines of ‘what’s the point the Tories always win’, had taken the time to go and vote, they wouldn’t have.