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So are we the larger Beta testing crowd for them???? It frustrates me to see some of the issues that people are having with this. I dont get it but maybe I am being to critical? Are any of you having the Drop box error? What about the presets stopping at J?
@Chaztrip said:
Yup mentioned Dropbox above.. It's posted on FB & they have confirmed they are investigating. Does seem like some basic errors!
@Crabman said:
I tried it briefly with one midi track in Cubasis and FT as an insert effect, and it worked really smooth for me, didn't display any of the issues it gets with Auria.
Another of John's excellent reviews over at the Music App Blog.
http://www.musicappblog.com/final-touch-review/
@thinds said:
Yep. Musicappblog.com is the place to go for in depth reviews. John is a great writer, so it's always a pleasure reading Musicappblog (I think he's done freelance work for some other audio magazines/sites if I'm not mistaken).
Nice review but for a long"in depth"review like this i missed any words on how well (or not)it performs as IAA or AB Effect.
It performs great as IAA (unless you use Auria where there's currently some issues), and it performs just fine in AB as well.
I haven't read the review yet, but I'm guessing he perhaps focused on the main purpose of the app, and what it's mainly being advertised as, a stand-alone mastering app.
It is a great review. John definitely doesn't just copy/paste the app description and call it a review.
He does take a few paragraphs to make the obligatory comparison to Audio Mastering, if you're interested.
OK - got to ask, cause this doesn't seem logical. Can anyone add Final Touch via IAA to Auria Master track FX and hear it doing anything (i.e. ramp it up!)
I can make it work on a stereo track but nothing on master? weird?
No IAAs works on the master out in Auria as far as I can tell.
Thanks for the reply - thought I might be going mad!
That's weird - I suppose I've only ever used FabFilters there before. Hmm, wonder if that is a 'feature' or a bug.
Yeah, I use fabfilter stuff on the master IAA in Auria all the time too.
Fabfilter plugs wouldn't be IAA though, unless I misunderstood your post.
It may only be a personal preference here , and tarekith I'd love your view on it since you are a real mastering engineer, but I wouldn't put it on the master of auria, I'd export my mix, wait a few days, then approach mastering with fresh ears. Since I'm by no means a real or fake mastering engineer, but I am a broke part time engineer with no mastering budget (or any other music related budget for that matter!), thus seemed like the best approach to master my own tracks.
I had no issues with using final touch as a standalone app by the end of the testing period. I think that's really it's intended purpose. Just my view though, others may do it differently and definitely do it better.
Rim said there is some issue with using IAAs on the master, and will investigate/fix it with the next update. Using a subgroup in the meantime would be one workaround,
I hope PG put in support for bluetooth sound. Now you have to use headphone out or digital out(?). Internal speaker has a really soft sound, useless.
Cool - thanks, yeah saw over on Auria. Nice to know I'm not going mad.. but shame that I always use subgroups for pre master group fx. So I'm not going to be able to use Final Touch on the whole mix via IAA. Still there are other ways to do it for the time being
Cool - thanks, yeah saw over on Auria. Nice to know I'm not going mad.. but shame that I always use subgroups for pre master group fx. So I'm not going to be able to use Final Touch on the whole mix via IAA. Still there are other ways to do it for the time being
@mrufino1 said:
Good point on IAA and Fabfilter, I forgot about that, oops. I'd love to do a review of FT, but $20 for something I probably won't use much is a bit much. Definitely curious though, so we'll see!
Anyone having a problem tranfering a file using Audio Copy? Seems to imports the wav OK but it just shows as a solid blue bar instead of the file. It also seems to add a few megs to the file size when importing sometimes
I meant I'd love your view on the "self mastering" process (not in the Seinfeld sense!) vs. what a mastering engineer brings to the table. I wish I had the budget on my project to hire a mastering engineer, but I had to do it myself and I wound up using final touch. However, I know that my studio setup cannot compare with the mastering studio I've used before (when other people were paying!) for accuracy or his experience. But final touch does what it does well.
As for audio copy, since ios7 it's been a hassle and doesn't work well. Plus it's 16 bit, so if I use it to bring my 24 bit file in its now 16 bit. I uploaded to Dropbox from auria, then downloaded from Dropbox to final touch. I've asked about "open in" facilities and I hope it will be added, even if just through audioshare.
I've not had any problems using AudioCopy from Gadget to FT
Weirdly enough I cannot replicate the issue tonight. Every file I have transferred has been fine.
Audio copy won't work with a 24 bit file, which is what I'm transferring in from my auria mix, then mastering with final touch as standalone, dithering to 16 bit at the end.
I was only moving 16 bit files though when the issue arose. Strange quirk there somewhere. I could move the same file np straight from iTunes library.
@ChrisG said:
Except that the AudioBus and IAA functionalities was completely absent until the very last beta build, which was distributed just a few days before the app release. There literally wasn't any time to test it and report because PG already had it submitted for review and ready to roll out. They are still cranking hard of course, so I'm sure all these things will be ironed out promptly.
So, just to clarify, no one on this thread that owns Final Touch Mastering or whatever it's called doesn't also own the Fabfilter plugins in Auria, correct?
I have all FabFilter plugs except the de-esser and Pro-MB.
@omnilimbo Ok I see! Yea I'm sure they'll sort it out, it's been brought to their attention by one of the beta testers.
@ChrisG, how would you say the sound out of FT stacks up to the fabfilter plugs was far as end product is concerned? Thanks.
TF sounds really really good. Haven't done any side by side comparisons or anything with the FabFilters, so can't give you any answers (and I don't have ProMB yet). But, if you you stack up FabFilters Pro-MB, Pro-L and Pro-Q, which basically covers most modules inside FT (EQ, MB-comp and brick wall limiter/maximizer), the FabFilters will obviously offer up a lot more features/functions (basic and advanced) for each unit. That said, FT do sound good, is very very flexible, and it is only 20 bucks. Like the FabFilters, it can obviously be used as a regular multi effect unit as an insert on a track etc, on vocals,drums, guitars whatever. It'll be a really nice addition to Aurias effect arsenal, when they'll get it to work with Auria/IAA that is.
Thanks a bunch, @ChrisG. That's kinda what I was thinking. Really must be a powerful app to even be mentioned in the same sentence with those FabFilter plugs though. Still, I don't have ProMB yet either, and it's tempting to just drop the cash for that instead. I'll go meditate on it a little while. Appreciate the feedback.