ATOM Piano Roll update is coming soon

PeteSasqwax

Whenever it drops it will be amazing and exactly the right time. Much love, @blueveek - it's heartening to know that you realise the importance of your mental health! Music is incredible and I'm sure that the release of Atom 2 will be to benefit of my music, but I don't want that to happen at the expense of your well-being.

2020 has been a hell of a year so far. If you can find a way to relax as much as possible during the dying embers of it, jump at it - that goes for everyone, not just BV!

Lil_Stu07

By all means take your time, get some rest. I was simply asking if, with all the excessive feature requests, this was still planned for a 2020 release like some beta tester said earlier. Funny that a simple yes or no question generates so much response. 🤷🏾‍♂️🙄

michael_m

I’m good with a 2021 release if it means getting everything right. Just glad to know it’s on its way.

RajahP

Ok.. the consensus is.. take all the time you want (well publicly)... never was one the went with the crowd.. I say, if the beta is solid.. let it go.. And, enjoy the season with family, friends, etc etc.. The term is RE-CREATE (recreation).. it’s part of the creation process.. and besides... I NEED it.. 🙂

Bless..

Paydaylukie

@blueveek take care of yourself brotha. Happy holidays to you and yours.

Xyl_Run

Take care @blueveek and all beta testers @tk32, @winconway included
Enjoy your break, more than well deserved
Many thanks

gregsmith

@blueveek said:
"I don't know" is an answer I've grown a bit weary of myself. No, I don't like it either, it keeps me on my toes, and makes it hard to decide when something is good enough. Makes it difficult to know when to stop. Despite that, it's no secret that I've been aiming at a late 2020 release. While still technically achievable, there's two reasons informing what I'm about to do next.

The first one is simple. While everything is rock solid with the latest beta, there's a couple of key features that I'd really like to get right from the start, especially around automation and integration with AUM. This is important, because it'll set the tone for how the workflow feels like. So I'm after a bit more iteration and experimentation, instead of compromising and releasing something that might change later: you'd be surprised at how many alternative versions of every little thing I've tried out in Atom 2; users would go mad if I did this kind of prototyping publicly.

The second one is also simple, but actually weighs in the most for this particular situation: burnout. I need a break. Spending every last bit of my free time developing Atom 2 for over a year now, is taking a toll. It's for the best (for my own health, but also the quality of what I'm developing) for me to take it easy for a couple of weeks.

In principle, I should be upset about this delay too: missing Black Friday and Christmas isn't "smart". Heck, this entire thread isn't "smart" – you'd be surprised how sharp and persistent of a drop in sales an update announcement can make, especially when the details on how the update will come are cloudy, as well as compatibility issues with version 1 being likely. But I still think it's a good idea to keep the ideation and iteration process public, so I appreciate the conversation.

What I got from each one of your comments is excitement and anticipation. I hope what you got from all my replies is: it'll be fucking worth it.

That sucks about the drop in sales. Hopefully you’ll win it back in sales for atom 2. I think one thing this thread has done in your favour is really create hype and buzz around the release.

I know I’ve been (jokingly) trying to get you to release it ASAP, but in seriousness we’re lucky to have devs like you that have the smarts to make something like this, and the patience to take the time to listen and make things right for such modest financial gains.

Thanks for being honest and setting expectations - We all have plenty of other things to experiment with at the moment I’m sure. Have a good break!

j_liljedahl

@0tolerance4silence said:
@j_liljedahl @blueveek
Regarding the upcoming integration between AUM/Atom2/Novation
Is it based on selectable ‘control surface’ port or hardware being ‘automatically’ recognised when plugged in?
Hypothetically - if one would try to emulate these controllers from f.e Lemur or Mozaic, what would be the best approach?
Any pointers much appreciated!

The only "integration" on AUMs side is that Victor of Atom Piano Roll asked for a way for plugins to change their node background color.

blueveek

Well, we've discussed a bit more than that At the moment what's available is setting node colors in AUM, automatically receiving the track and slot index from AUM into Atom, and using instance naming from AUM inside of Atom's UI. This should be sufficient for Ableton-esque clip arrangements, for now.

Regarding hardware integration, it's all automatic (and the layout and pad lighting on the controllers mimics the node arrangement in AUM, or other hosts that decide to support the APIs we've converged on). Controllers can be individually enabled/disabled.

@0tolerance4silence For emulating controllers, check out what @tk32 managed in a previous demo. It's pretty wild what you can do with just ChordPolyPad alone, I'm sure a Mozaic script can take this a lot further.

Pierre118

Hi @blueveek Will the new Apple M1 chip supported by Atom 2? I ask this because Drambo is working very well on my Mac Mini M1 running Big Sur.

blueveek

@Pierre118 said:
Hi @blueveek Will the new Apple M1 chip supported by Atom 2? I ask this because Drambo is working very well on my Mac Mini M1 running Big Sur.

It's on the radar, and I think a worthwhile platform for all developers to invest in. However, to do that sooner rather than later I'd need to buy one of those Macs, and that's not something I can justify cost-wise just yet. That being said, given Atom 2's embeddable nature, I actually wouldn't be surprised if I end up porting it to other platforms even sooner than M1's.

david_2017

@blueveek politely asking for the ETA, still 2020 on the horizon? Take your time off if needed and celebrate some Christmas... 👊🏼🙃

blueveek

@david_2017 said:

I appreciate the ping. Short answer: no, I'm taking a short break until the end of the year. Here's the long answer: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/888436/#Comment_888436

david_2017

@blueveek said:

@david_2017 said:

I appreciate the ping. Short answer: no, I'm taking a short break until the end of the year. Here's the long answer: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/888436/#Comment_888436

Thanks for the honesty! Will read the Post now
Enjoy your freedom and get some sleep and things that make you happy!

Edit: oh ya, for God‘s sake... please take a vacation and fuel up some energy and love!

Pierre118

@blueveek said:

@Pierre118 said:
Hi @blueveek Will the new Apple M1 chip supported by Atom 2? I ask this because Drambo is working very well on my Mac Mini M1 running Big Sur.

It's on the radar, and I think a worthwhile platform for all developers to invest in. However, to do that sooner rather than later I'd need to buy one of those Macs, and that's not something I can justify cost-wise just yet. That being said, given Atom 2's embeddable nature, I actually wouldn't be surprised if I end up porting it to other platforms even sooner than M1's.

That looks promising, @blueveek

Have a nice holiday break!

Charlesalbert

@blueveek take your time. Relax and enjoy the break. Well deserved.

kinkujin

Ok, so I slept on this 33 page thread. Can someone sum up what we are expecting in the eventual release? Thanks.

[Deleted User]

@kinkujin said:
Ok, so I slept on this 33 page thread. Can someone sum up what we are expecting in the eventual release? Thanks.

Dev is resting. Expect release in 2021

kinkujin

Yeah I saw that, I meant upcoming features, etc.

[Deleted User]

@kinkujin said:
Yeah I saw that, I meant upcoming features, etc.

Ah, ok.
A lot of features. Kind of 32... 33 pages 😎

kinkujin

@despego said:

@kinkujin said:
Yeah I saw that, I meant upcoming features, etc.

Ah, ok.
A lot of features. Kind of 32... 33 pages 😎

Thanks guy. Guess I'll venture to read in my spare time.

tk32

I’ll attempt to do a quick TL;DR for @kinkujin

This is not an exhaustive list, but Atom 2.0 includes all the features of Atom 1 plus..

• Midi import/export
• flexible clipboard (for copy/paste between instances)
• Non-destructive and in-depth ‘per note’ processes such as quantise, swing, scale-conform.
• Global swing, probability, and decimal playback speed controls.
• Novation Launchpad integration (for clip launching and more..)
• Highly-configurable synced and un-synced launch options (launch by midi note/midi cc, on/off/hold/loop/release and much more)
• A modular design that supports creative use cases (one atom triggering another, as one example)
• Extremely accurate midi timing.
• Hyper-optimised code that uses miniscule CPU and RAM (even on older iPad models)
• ...and these are just the features I’m allowed to mention ahead of launch

kinkujin

@tk32 said:
I’ll attempt to do a quick TL;DR for @kinkujin

This is not an exhaustive list, but Atom 2.0 includes all the features of Atom 1 plus..

• Midi import/export
• flexible clipboard (for copy/paste between instances)
• Non-destructive and in-depth ‘per note’ processes such as quantise, swing, scale-conform.
• Global swing, probability, and decimal playback speed controls.
• Novation Launchpad integration (for clip launching and more..)
• Highly-configurable synced and un-synced launch options (launch by midi note/midi cc, on/off/hold/loop/release and much more)
• A modular design that supports creative use cases (one atom triggering another, as one example)
• Extremely accurate midi timing.
• Hyper-optimised code that uses miniscule CPU and RAM (even on older iPad models)
• ...and these are just the features I’m allowed to mention ahead of launch

Thanks brother @tk32 !

espiegel123

@tk32 said:
I’ll attempt to do a quick TL;DR for @kinkujin

This is not an exhaustive list, but Atom 2.0 includes all the features of Atom 1 plus..

• Midi import/export
• flexible clipboard (for copy/paste between instances)
• Non-destructive and in-depth ‘per note’ processes such as quantise, swing, scale-conform.
• Global swing, probability, and decimal playback speed controls.
• Novation Launchpad integration (for clip launching and more..)
• Highly-configurable synced and un-synced launch options (launch by midi note/midi cc, on/off/hold/loop/release and much more)
• A modular design that supports creative use cases (one atom triggering another, as one example)
• Extremely accurate midi timing.
• Hyper-optimised code that uses miniscule CPU and RAM (even on older iPad models)
• ...and these are just the features I’m allowed to mention ahead of launch

Also multiple midi channels an cc recording playback.

tk32

yes.. there’s definitely more than I’ve mentioned so far.

Wink.

onerez

@tk32 or anyone on the beta... do you know if Atom2 will remember the scale that you set? I set a scale in Atom and then next save my session in AUM and next time open its back to init.

gregsmith

@tk32 said:
I’ll attempt to do a quick TL;DR for @kinkujin

This is not an exhaustive list, but Atom 2.0 includes all the features of Atom 1 plus..

• Midi import/export
• flexible clipboard (for copy/paste between instances)
• Non-destructive and in-depth ‘per note’ processes such as quantise, swing, scale-conform.
• Global swing, probability, and decimal playback speed controls.
• Novation Launchpad integration (for clip launching and more..)
• Highly-configurable synced and un-synced launch options (launch by midi note/midi cc, on/off/hold/loop/release and much more)
• A modular design that supports creative use cases (one atom triggering another, as one example)
• Extremely accurate midi timing.
• Hyper-optimised code that uses miniscule CPU and RAM (even on older iPad models)
• ...and these are just the features I’m allowed to mention ahead of launch

You’ve got me all excited again! 😂

Jeezs

@espiegel123 said:

@tk32 said:
I’ll attempt to do a quick TL;DR for @kinkujin

This is not an exhaustive list, but Atom 2.0 includes all the features of Atom 1 plus..

• Midi import/export
• flexible clipboard (for copy/paste between instances)
• Non-destructive and in-depth ‘per note’ processes such as quantise, swing, scale-conform.
• Global swing, probability, and decimal playback speed controls.
• Novation Launchpad integration (for clip launching and more..)
• Highly-configurable synced and un-synced launch options (launch by midi note/midi cc, on/off/hold/loop/release and much more)
• A modular design that supports creative use cases (one atom triggering another, as one example)
• Extremely accurate midi timing.
• Hyper-optimised code that uses miniscule CPU and RAM (even on older iPad models)
• ...and these are just the features I’m allowed to mention ahead of launch

Also multiple midi channels an cc recording playback.

You forget audio triggering!!!

blueveek

@onerez said:
@tk32 or anyone on the beta... do you know if Atom2 will remember the scale that you set? I set a scale in Atom and then next save my session in AUM and next time open its back to init.

Yes, Atom 2 presets and exports save absolutely everything now, including the selected scale.

blueveek

@tk32 said:

• ...and these are just the features I’m allowed to mention ahead of launch

Cheeky