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@PiSynth My comment was more in regard to Super Manetron, they have a pitch dial that springs back to centre as soon as you take your finger off the touchscreen. I don't have M3000, so I don't know what tuning adjustment you allow, but if it stays put when tweaked, then there's no issue.
The only reason I don't have M3000 (which looks to be the best iOS tron emulation) is because I converted the Mike Pinder library to soundfonts and have them in Bismark bs-16i.
@PiSynth thanks for posting here. I'm looking forward to the update, if the flute sound can be a little mellower it would make a lot of people happy.
Also, one annoyance I have have with M3000 is that it doesn't remember the state you leave it in, so I have to set it up anew each time I launch it.
Save the preferred state in a VoiceBank, it's just one press away.
@PiSynth said:
Thanks for the tip!
@PaulB in M3000 the behaviour of the Pitch knob is optional. In the iPad settings app you can choose to auto-centre the pitch or not. But with MIDI keys attached you need to be careful, as MIDI pitch bend overrides screen touch, and they are always centre-sprung in my experience - you can still set up a specific pitch via touch, but you then need to not wiggle the MIDI pitch wheel. But apart from possibly some notes on the Oboe which are dissonant with the clarinet, the Streetly tapes are in tune to 440Hz.
OK, advertorial insert, apologies - there is are great reasons to get M3000 now - the new Clare Lindley Violin Collection is delicious -
Both videos just M3000, AudioBus and GarageBand as MIDI note source / tape recorder / reverb unit.
@PiSynth As an oboist myself, I have found that it's typically the clarinet which is dissonant with the oboe...
@PiSynth love the app. Use it all the time. It appears in a track on a Columbia Records release which was a finalist for a Grammy fairly recently... Nobody has ever questioned the authenticity of the sound! It will likely appear sprinkled throughout a project which has only just cracked open and is in early production now. I purchased the add-on, Vol 3, and I found my mind wandering around the possibilities for further expansions. It is with held-breath that I request that the notably-imperfect Birotron choir be made available as an IAP! Am I correct that Streetly has this in their collection?
According to this, yes.
http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/tron/birotronchoir.html
@DD829 not sure what the maestro pinstripedclips used in his excellent video, but the samples in the 'Harry' pack are -
Accordion.wav
3Violins-a.wav
4Saxes.wav
AltoSax.wav
Bassoon.wav
Cello.wav
Clarinet.wav
Female.wav
Male.wav
Organ1.wav
Organ2.wav
Organ3.wav
TrombMute.wav
TrombOpen.wav
TrumpetMute.wav
TrumpetOpen.wav
Hawaian.wav
ElectGtr.wav
Mandolin.wav
Marimba.wav
MarimbaHit.wav
Piano.wav
Vibes.wav
@ActualProof can you drop me an email off the record omenie at omenie dot com re. the Grammy finalist - need to tell Streetly about this.
That article was fantastic!
@PiSynth yes! Also, let Streetly know that the Biro choir is all we were talking about up in Stinson Beach last week!
Maybe I can talk Martin in making the Biro choir a freebie - I can then add it to the free voice set, you refresh, instant birotron - give me a few minutes to talk him round ...
Update - no free Birotron!
Might have been an idea to ask first...
@PaulB you have a point there ... but if we can't get a Biro, the next best thing - my plan after the upcoming 'English Soprano' sessions is to get in a local, and very good chamber choir, who have a couple of amazing basses as well as soaring sopranos, so can cover a vast range. It will be interesting to do the same 'velocity layering' via ABC that went into Clare's violin with a full choir, to support real articulation and playability.
At some point, might as well just use a regular sampler, no?
ABC?
@Zymos It's new source of sampled sounds. If it's done well, don't knock it...
ABC is the knob that blends between the 3 selected voices, mapped onto mod wheel if you use midi keys.
Not knocking the samples themselves, just wondering what is the point of using them in a Mellotron app specifically vs. in any other sampler...
Because they are mellotron samples, developed in order to be used in M3000 - exactly 35 chromatic samples, 8 seconds long ... they are mellotron samples. Hope that's clear. And of course we are in a thread 'mellotron app comparison' ...
So you have 3 levels of dynamics selectable via the Blend knob?
@PiSynth said:
Oh- it sounded like you were preparing to record a very good chamber choir, in which case why limit yourself?
@PiSynth
No free Biro Choir - that would be quite a freebie! What about a packaged, paid Biro? That's something many of us would buy! Oh, I just sent you an email as well.
Back in 2010 it was the Mellotronics M3000HD that made me buy an ipad. It's an app that just keeps improving. Midi, audiobus, new sounds...
My only quiblle with the M3000 is that the sounds are not sampled from an actual mellotron, what the majority of the sounds are is direct transfers from the final generation of tape before they are put in to a mellotron. This doesn't seem to matter for most of the sounds, but I think the missing wobble intandem with tuning makes some of them sound a bit sterile, the flute for example.
Once I had an iPad I bought all of the mellotron apps. I like the Super Manetron as it features, mostly, samples from a MKIV mellotron, pretty worn out by the sounds of things, but mellotron samples all the same. The spring pitch knob is annoying, they really should allow us to engage or disengage that.
Interesting thing is that the mixed brass sound is taken from Mellotron Archives Mike Pinder CD-ROM, but edited slIghtly. The earlier Manetron Mark II also used the 3 Violins sound from the CD-ROM... Naughty.
For those of you who have mellotron samples and want to use them on your ipad you can load them in to ThumbJam.
@PaulB - 'So you have 3 levels of dynamics selectable via the Blend knob' - not as such, but if you select a soft thing for A a medium thing for B and a hard thing for C you can get convincing blending.
@Zymos sorry if I sounded snarky, wasn't meant that way. It's entirely return on investment at this point, realistically the way to maximize return on investment is on a high volume, sandboxed environment. Any other route to market will be lower volume and immediately stolen. And yes, the iPad stuff will be stolen, but at least the majority of iPad users seem honest.
For someone to pirate an ipad app it would be so sad, $12 for your app is affordable to anyone. Even $50 for auria is completely insane, and I love ios because it's so easy to buy the software you need (and easy to buy apps you don't need!) without worrying about licenses, etc. I just reformatted my macbook and now have to install superior drummer again, and had to find authorization files for different plugins, etc, big pain. Ios, you get your new ipad and just go to the App Store and everything you had downloads. I'd be interested to see piracy numbers on ios, I can only imagine someone does it on principle alone, that software should be free (I used Linux almost exclusively for 5 years, and still do a little now- there's a reason developers get paid). Anyway, don't want to derail any more than I have...
@mrufino1 at a coffee shop a few months ago banging away on my ipad, I got into a conversation with another guy who makes music on his ipad. We started talking apps and I showed him a few he hadn't heard of before and without even the slightest grimace he asked me to enter my itunes account on his ipad so he could download the apps.
I hope you poured coffee on his iPad...
Makes sense PiSynth- basically locking the samples to the app to protect your time and investment. I hadn't really thought about it that way.