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Don't see why they wouldn't work with an adapter - but seems they are mics only, not headphones? No English website version lol, ballsy!
Nice! @bygjohn
Ta!
I've made dozens of recordings with the Ambeos, here's a couple of them:
London Underground
Birdsong
The second one is one of the few times I've managed to get an outdoor recording without too much traffic noise, it was during lockdown.
This one is also reasonably good:
Birdsong
Mics only and available here
Well, these headphones are working with my old lightning iPad but are not working with the adapter on the USB C ipad. So either the adapter is broken or in some way inappropriate, or the headphones simply can't work through an adapter. Has anyone actually successfully used these with a lightning to usb c adapter yet?
I thought I saw in this thread, or the earbuds thread, that someone was using or recommending the Anker Lightning to USB-C adapter cable for this? It's audio specific. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07R6MKJZH Also to be found on eBay. Not sure if this will help, but maybe search the two threads for a mention of it. I don't remember who it was.
I was just about to buy a pair of Ambeos and the cable myself. I might wait until this is confirmed okay with iPad / USB-C also. My phone is lightning, but my iPad, like yours is UBS-C.
Mine works now in my Air4, but after updating to iOS 16.1.1
What’s not working with your?
Yes - the one I use is by Anker - it's the one recommended for the earphones by Apogee/Sennheiser. I don't know if there's something special about this particular adapter or if it just needs to be Apple MFi certified but this one definitely works on a USB-C iPad.
Here @Gavinski, this is the answer you're after, from @enkaytee. Hope this helps you sort out the right adapter.
Ah, I see the answer showed up.
OK that's good to know the anker ones work - thing is, strangely, I was not able to get the anker ones online here, bizarre. I guess the one I got is maybe not audio compatible then. Will try again to find an anker one.
@Synthi - just not working at all - the device is not seen by the iPad, doesn't show up in hardware inputs in aum etc, can't hear anything, can't record anything
It's definitely the adapter - sorry Gav, you're going to have to try and source an Anker. Maybe I could buy one here and send it on? They're tiny so shouldn't raise suspicions with Chinese customs!
Thnx for the offer Nige, let me try again to see if I can get the anker here! Think they're a Chinese company so it's very strange, and China is one of the best places in the world for online shopping anyway.
OK - email if you need an export service...👍
I’m confused about what this product is or isn’t. The Sennheiser website makes no mention of active noise cancellation. Amazon and other comments here in this thread suggest it does. Also, a couple other comments here suggest they’re not ear buds at all, just mics.
Maybe the definition of active noise canceling is not exclusive to the listening experience, and may have to do with the recording instead? Kinda like having a Brusfri after the mics?
I’m thought maybe this was an inexpensive solution to wearing something in a noisy environment to make things sound quiet and listen to music and or a portable latency- free ear bud experience since they’re wired. I’m not concerned with the binaural element. Thanks for any clarifications 😀
https://www.theverge.com/reviews/2018/7/12/17032058/headphones-sennheiser-ambeo-smart-headset-review-binaural-3d-audio
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/sennheiser-ambeo-smart-headset
https://assets.sennheiser.com/global-downloads/file/10166/575835_1217_A03_QG_AmbeoSmartHeadset.pdf
@Blipsford_Baubie These reviews suggest there is active noise cancellation (when used as headphones) as does the Sennheiser PDF quick guide. I don’t own them myself though so I can’t personally confirm that noise cancellation is present!
Hopefully I can clarify. I own a pair.
They are earbuds that connect via a Lightning connector, or if you have a USB-C device you can use a suitable adapter. Please note that the only adapter that seems to work, though, is the Anker (see above). I bought one for future use when I have a USB-C iPad, but so far can’t test it as I haven’t upgraded yet.
Yes, they have active noise cancellation, which works pretty well and seriously cuts external noise down when listening. They also have a transparency mode, so you can listen to people talking (for example) without removing them from your ears.
They have their own built-in Apogee DAC/ADC (happy to be corrected if I’ve got this wrong).
So, a competent, well featured earbud headset. They can also be used for taking calls etc.
On top of that, they have microphones in the back of the buds that can be used for binaural recording, ie artificial head surround sound. Though in this case the artificial head is actually your own!
There is an app that can update the firmware. I think you’ll need to do this for them to work reliably on recent iOS versions - check the other threads for this issue.
There is also an Apogee recorder app, with extras purchasable by IAP, but they will work for recording without it - they just show up as a recording source in AUM, AudioShare etc.
Hope this helps!
Oh, and the only downside I’ve experienced has been the fit. None of the included tips fit my ears very well, so they occasionally pop out, and can get a bit uncomfortable if I use them for a prolonged period. I haven’t seen reports of this from others, so it’s probably just my ear shape. Note that if they pop out of my ear canal, they don’t fall off due to the over-ear hooks.
That’s useful info about the app for updating firmware, had no idea!
Just out of interest, has anyone who has the Ambeo headset and the Anker USB C adapter tried it with Android? Does the adapter make it compatible? I assume it should but maybe not?
Gavinski, ok! I thought you had the anker! So as others said you must have the anker, and must be the white one, some black ones are a different version and don’t work with the ambeos.
Re firmware, it can update only if connected by lightning connector, the same is correct for unlock unlimited recording in the apogee app. Hope it helps!
The Apogee recorder is called 'Metarecorder' and if you download it and plug the earphones in it will automatically unlock all the features without purchasing the IAP. However this only works with a direct Lightning connection and not through the USB-C adapter - the unlock is also not transferable to another device on the same Apple account as it's not a true IAP. One of the advantages of the app over other recorders is the ability to record at 24 bit 96kHz with the Ambeos.
You can also easily swap the tips for foam versions such as the ones from Comply for a better fit.
@Robin2 , thank you for taking the time to research and provide the links. Evidently, I stink at prompting search engines!
@bygjohn , thank you for all the details and sharing your experience. My iPhone SE2 hasn’t met any resistance yet with my current workflow, so it seems the lightning port will be with me for a while, but I’ll note the Anker adapter for future reference.
With regards to the silicone tips popping out after a while, along with the discomfort, I have the same issue with my AKG ear buds. But the AKG are BT, so they don’t hook over the ears. They’re also heavier cause I bought the model with the bigger drivers for added bass , so I imagine the Ambeos won’t be a problem. Big mistake BTW ^, but I won’t rant about it here.
The Ambeos sounds like a no brainier, thanks!
Useful Synthi, yeah this difficulty in finding the ankers etc is turning this all into a bit of a fricking palaver.....the amount of time I've spent dealing with incompetent customer service ppl already on the Chinese Internet.... Lol. Not really their fault as this is a very niche use, for a discontinued highly niche product, particularly here where most ppl with the money would rather be buying a set of Bluetooth headphones, probably airpods, audiophile culture not very big here.
These are very cool, issues finding an anker adapter aside, lol. It's a really uncanny experience to record something with a lot of sound motion around you, kids playing, dogs etc, then listen back to it on the headphones a few minutes later nearby but when it's quieter. Totally feels like what you're hearing is happening around you, you have been transported back in time and space a few minutes!
Thanks for this - I’ve used Comply tips previously on Apple earbuds (the wired ones), hadn’t realised they did them for the Ambeos.
I’d forgotten the ins and outs of that recorder app, so thanks for filling in the details.
@Gavinski Thanks for posting your opinion now you’ve used them. They sound great from your description. Uncanny spacial qualities aside, is the general sound quality good? What about recordings from the mono ‘call’ mic - acceptable? Better than those from the mic on standard Apple headphones?
The tips you need are the 400 series.
I'll post some field recording video later! The recordings sound good but I'm still outside so need to hear what they sound like when played back in a quiet room to make sure. The mono mic I'm less impressed with so far. Can't compare to apple earbuds as I don't use them. Adding various gating and noise reduction plugins I think for just recording pure vocal audio for a walkthrough video, I'd have better sound from my rode lav 2, though when I use that I try to get it as close to my mouth as possible (I clip it to my headphone cable), I need to play about with these ambeos more though to be sure. Maybe with more tweaking and better positioning etc they'll be good enough. For semi decent audio for YT voiceovers it's pretty hard with inline mics etc, and even with that rode lav 2 it's really hard to get audio that's loud and rich enough to even remotely compete with the voice over audio of, say, Hainbach. For a truly portable voiceover mic that clips onto your headphones I suspect a very high end lav mic would be the only way. @Robin2 said:
Many thanks @Gavinski . Will listen to the recordings with great interest. In theory, given the original asking price, they should be pretty good quality mics but you never know! Thanks for resurrecting this thread though; I had no idea these existed and at the price they’ve fallen to, they sound like a really good option for field recording. Cheers.