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Buttersynth. New Hybrid Synth from the makers of Cream Mobile
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Genuine question to the "pre-orderers": why do you buy something that doesn't exist yet and will not be scarce once it does exist? Not a trick question, good for you, I'm really just trying to understand the motivation. 🙏
Yep, I’m with you. I’ve bought too many synths because I fell for the hyperbole on this forum, and then realised ‘hmm, this sounds awful’. All down to personal taste of course, but I don’t think my idea of ‘good sounds’ is really in alignment with the majority of folks on this forum.
This is very true, it's always such a personal matter. It's like taking music recommendations from a complete stranger. Unless you already have a good idea that that forum member's taste aligns with your own. But yeah, the frenzy in here over every new release can certainly make you a bit jaded and cautious after a while, and rightly so.
The big difference is, though, that even if a synth's presets are not to your taste, you can always learn to program your own patches in it. There will still always be personal preferences at play though. Even then, watching YouTube videos is often not enough to know - that's why demos really should become the norm. From my limited playing with it but also confirmed by a friend who's played with it more, this seems very versatile, has an excellent interface, nice big text, decent sized knobs and buttons etc (yes Fab Filter I'm looking at you!). It's the kind of thing that most people will probably enjoy sitting down in front of to program some sounds. Maybe see if you can still get on the beta?
I'm also slightly baffled by this phenomenon, but would like to put forward a hypothesis...
I simply think it's a way for users to express love, appreciation and encouragement to indie iOS developers. A demonstration of blind faith that whatever they are building will be worth the money.
In other words, a 'review-blind' pledge.
I mean, after all, it's not like Kickstarter, where the people's faith is genuinely required to get the project completed (and there are no stretch goals).
Actually, enthusiasm from you is a good sign @Gavinski !
I have recently arrived at the conclusion, since buying the Brainz IAP, that Tera Pro is far and away the best synth on iOS. I know from a recent comment that you think this too.
Again, this is to do with my ears, and the kind of sounds I like…
Agreed! Feels like a whole world of sound is within that app.
That is true but with a 2-week window before the release date it seemed like there might be time for another update to get through. Of course, I have no experience with that process so I could also be wrong. Anyway, thanks for responding!
@dendy has posted a few demo videos that give a good idea of how it can sound so it’s not an entirely blind (deaf?) purchase. @RedSkyLullaby has had some kind words for it iirc (maybe not on this forum) and I trust his judgment. Yup, the hype here had some impact too, but as I mentioned before it seemed like the price may have adjusted down and there might have been a deal to be had. Otherwise I’m not sure I see a significant difference in pre-ordering vs waiting (other than time) if I’m pretty confident I want it. As @Gavinski pointed out, being in pre-order means it does already “exist” in that it got through approvals, and scarcity isn’t ever a factor when making app purchases unless you count those AudioKit synths that were supposed to have been limited time offerings but ultimately weren’t. For mistakes, there’s still a refund process which I don’t use often but has only ever failed me with IAP in the past. Basically, I see no downside other than having to wait which is unavoidable. I also support @tk32 ’s hypothesis.
Lol you’re talking about me ? Recently got logged off on iPad and for god sake i was not able to remember password - but does ‘t want to reset it cause then it would log off me on desktop and iphone lol 😂😂😂
As a synth semi-noob who has tried the beta, IMO ButterSynth is the most comprehensive synth on iOS.
I don’t know if/why a sine wave can sound better on one synth than another, the same goes for the filters or what makes a synth sound better than another.
But I do know that I can find my way around ButterSynth. I can load the init patch and work my way up. Everything makes sense and it’s exactly where you expect it to be. This is no minor feat. The UI looks simple but is extremely informative and packed with details. For example if you assign the filter freq to an env you can see the knob opening up, which is a very reassuring visual clue. So it seems like it can please the most knowledgeable and and demanding as well as noobs.
Been following the Buttersynth story since start and if the claims during all these months are correct this is a top notch synth. That, some demos and the fact that @tahiche and a bunch of other respected people here says it is a good buy after beta testing, makes it good enough for me. Not much money anyway. Pre-ordered. Worst case it sucks, but then I have a least supported the developer and iOS as a platform where I want developers to continue releasing new apps.
/DMfan🇸🇪
If you are interested, there is a 54 page manual available here: https://www.kirnuarp.com/ButterSynth-Manual.pdf
Personally, I am not skilled enough to leverage all of the capabilities of this synth. I try to find a good patch and make minor tweaks to the few parameters that I understand (or perhaps add some external effects). That's why I was so thrilled when Harry Gohs released Teraverse. I knew that I couldn't handle all of the capabilities in Tera Pro, but the few parameter options in Teraverse (combined with all of the wonderful presets) is perfect for me.
maybe it’s time to improve sound design skills
i think excellent BS manual (respect to @tk32) combined with intuitive BS UI is great opportunity to learn new knowledge ;-) Learnig new stuff is absolutely best thing how to spend time.
Yes, what a fabulous manual @tk32 🙌
For me, I find myself lost on where to start with synths. Lately, I find myself recording synth chords into PaulXStretch, streeetching it then applying effects on the end of the chain to see what I come up with. With that being said, I find that reverse engineering my approach to sound design and applying it to synths helps me understand how to create sounds I like. I hope that makes some sense 🙃
https://blog.landr.com/synth-pads/
Oh that's excellent news, Tom makes the best manuals on iOS by a mile, probably. 🔥
Hope the v1.0 manual helps.. though I seek no glory and am happy just to be involved with this awesome synth in some small way.
Huge respect to Arto (Kirnu dev), and all the core beta testers who helped him get this beast over the finish line. I can't wait to see all the cool things people will do with it.
The look and feel reminds me a bit of ALCHEMY in Logic.
I love Tera Pro but I’ve considered Teraverse just to have an easy preset player with some minor manipulation. Sometimes you just want to get into the thick of it quickly haha.
I’m pretty sure the pre-ordered version goes to 11.
(I’ve pre-ordered)
Maybe in looks it has some color and design similarities…
But that is where it all ends.
Alchemy is a totally different beast
Love the sound of it…though translucent preset browsers strike me as user hostile..
Does anyone know if the regular everyday price of this synth will be the same as the "Pre-Order" price?
Why not ? After months spend with beta and after few my ideas were actually implemented innit, i am 100% sure i want this synth and it will be (it already is) my main workhorse. It allowed me to delete 75% synth apps i had installed on my iPad
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So no reason to wait, it just downloads automatically when it gets available
Ditto 🙏🏻
So no heavy sample users were on the beta?
Skimmed thru the manual and no mention of being able to set the loop-points of the sample or even adjust the start-offset, no reverse play…
Honestly I’ll stick to Drambo for my synthesis needs.
It’ll find its place I’m sure about that but will it be on my iPad? Not so sure about that…
In fact, there was an extremely heavy sample-based user on the beta, but sample manipulation was not a core priority for the developer and it's not the beta team's job to try changing the vision. It might be on the roadmap
Good to know...
I know beta-testing is not about 'changing the core vision' of an app but in many cases (at least in in my experience) the feature related feedback has been highly rewarding for both parties
Totally different beast than Drambo. I love that app, but it’s nice to have a standalone app this powerful.