BeatMaker 3 Update 3.0.14

Jumpercollins

@rs2000 said:

@Jumpercollins said:
Interesting combo BM3 and the Atom SQ looks like a great little controller for BM3 and general iOS use Anyone using it in the iOS community would love to here your thoughts?

One good thing about BM3 is it’s midi mapping focus actions it’s way ahead of other ios DAWS in that respect.

How do you map those buttons to sequencer steps?

@rs2000 Looked into it the Sequencer mode only available at present with Studio One which is a shame.

Samu

@tk32 @hansjbs

Please add my humble request to use the 'keyboard sampler' to sample external sources...
This would bring consistency to the sampling process (ie. same dialogue used for all sampling).

Also when using keyboard-less sound modules for sampling using the onscreen keyboard to play the device that is being sampled is verY handy.

When the keyboard is added to the recorder it could also open the option to do 'auto sampling' of connected instruments, be it internal or external.

Cheers!

hansjbs

@stormywaterz said:
Moving banks up and down so far my fav to the update. Makes a huge difference now when setting up the timeline. I can now at least open a couple of my projects that froze my iPad they are still sluggish but I can at least work them.

Only one crash so far and that was pure synth. My projects with Zeeon, I just have to open Zeeon and it acts right after that the same with poison 202.

So far it’s a good update. Cant complain yet lol 😆 I’m afraid to rescan the library though might take a week again to get my iPad back.

It might be ios 14 but my icons for au’s don’t have the right icons. GB is doing the same thing.

Open up an IAA same way you do AUV3. Remove it and now you AU icons will show. No need to do it every time. Just once and your AU will show in every project old or new

hansjbs

@Samu said:
@tk32 @hansjbs

Please add my humble request to use the 'keyboard sampler' to sample external sources...
This would bring consistency to the sampling process (ie. same dialogue used for all sampling).

Also when using keyboard-less sound modules for sampling using the onscreen keyboard to play the device that is being sampled is verY handy.

When the keyboard is added to the recorder it could also open the option to do 'auto sampling' of connected instruments, be it internal or external.

Cheers!

Gotchu! Will add to the list

Edit: Added.

kinkujin

@WillieNegus said:

@kinkujin said:

@hansjbs said:

@kinkujin said:
Had the day off today, so spent a lot of it with BM3. Only issue I had was stuck notes in ZEEON. Is that one au that doesn’t play well with BeatMaker 3?
Otherwise, great fun, learned a lot and quite taken with it so far.

Yes Zeeon is one of those apps. I use it and don’t usually have issues. Maybe it’s because I’ve learned a few tricks of what not to do with problematic AUV3 with BM3.

Thanks @hansjbs, I’ll just avoid it. I’ve got loads of other options. Cheers.

So you’re giving Bm3 another shot? Nice. Know that you can also easily just sample the sound you want from Zeeon and make it your own instrument in Bm3. It’s actually my preferred way to use it and saves tons of CPU for audio effects, tracks or midi effects.

Yeah, this time I'm making progress, unlike the last time.

Ok, so enlighten me - does sampling a synth save cpu or is it more convenient or what? Why do that when you can just have the synth au loaded and ready-to-midi? I'm sure there is a good reason? Or is just so you can manipulate the sample?

I admit, this way of working is totally new to me. However, the grid thing is really working for me!

Turntablist

Does Dropbox work again ?

tk32

@Turntablist said:
Does Dropbox work again ?

Yes. I was importing and exporting files to/from Dropbox in BM3 this morning.

AudioGus

@Turntablist said:
Does Dropbox work again ?

I still get a ‘too many connections’ error in the dropbox part of Bm3. Reinstalled both dropbox and BM3 and the native dropbox app works.

tk32

@AudioGus said:
I still get a ‘too many connections’ error in the dropbox part of Bm3. Reinstalled both dropbox and BM3 and the native dropbox app works.

Another solution is to access your dropbox folder via the Files App, which is also available inside BM3.

skrat

@rs2000 said:

@Jumpercollins said:
Interesting combo BM3 and the Atom SQ looks like a great little controller for BM3 and general iOS use Anyone using it in the iOS community would love to here your thoughts?

One good thing about BM3 is it’s midi mapping focus actions it’s way ahead of other ios DAWS in that respect.

How do you map those buttons to sequencer steps?

I don't own the controller either, but it seems like it does not have internal memory unlike e.g. Arturia Beatstep, which simply stores the sequences in its own memory and just sends the MIDI notes, so you don't need to map anything.
But maybe I am wrong and you can store sequences this way also on this ATOM SQ controller...

rs2000

@skrat said:

@rs2000 said:

@Jumpercollins said:
Interesting combo BM3 and the Atom SQ looks like a great little controller for BM3 and general iOS use Anyone using it in the iOS community would love to here your thoughts?

One good thing about BM3 is it’s midi mapping focus actions it’s way ahead of other ios DAWS in that respect.

How do you map those buttons to sequencer steps?

I don't own the controller either, but it seems like it does not have internal memory unlike e.g. Arturia Beatstep, which simply stores the sequences in its own memory and just sends the MIDI notes, so you don't need to map anything.
But maybe I am wrong and you can store sequences this way also on this ATOM SQ controller...

I'd highly prefer to edit the BM3 sequences on the controller without requiring intermediate steps to transfer sequences between BM3 and the hardware.
IMHO it's the only sensible way to do it when working with many different patterns.

RUST( i )K

I honestly forgot about this app..

kinkujin

@RUST( i )K said:
I honestly forgot about this app..

I'm just taking it up! hehe

AudioGus

@tk32 said:

@AudioGus said:
I still get a ‘too many connections’ error in the dropbox part of Bm3. Reinstalled both dropbox and BM3 and the native dropbox app works.

Another solution is to access your dropbox folder via the Files App, which is also available inside BM3.

I just use the SMB Files connection direct to my computers HD via Files App now, muy bueno!

wim

@WillieNegus said:
Saving a project with AUs triggered by midi are also larger than those with just audio files.

I don't see how that's possible. I think you have that backwards. Saving a project with AU's doesn't save the AU's in the project, only their settings. If you sample an AU, you're creating large audio file sets for each, and all those get saved to storage.

Right on all the other points, though. 👍🏼

Samu

@AudioGus said:

@tk32 said:

@AudioGus said:
I still get a ‘too many connections’ error in the dropbox part of Bm3. Reinstalled both dropbox and BM3 and the native dropbox app works.

Another solution is to access your dropbox folder via the Files App, which is also available inside BM3.

I just use the SMB Files connection direct to my computers HD via Files App now, muy bueno!

Now imagine a 'built-in' SMB Client in the regular BM3 file explorer, no need for roundtrips to Files.app just direct access to all files on any connected server

To avoid problems with 'missing files', files loaded from a SMB server could be copied into the session folder in case the drive is not preset when loading the session the next time around.
(And SMB Server to make it easier to backup everything BM3 related to a computer).

One of the iPadOS14 'news' is the option to have in-line access to Files.app, ie. no need to use the Files.app interface to access files. This could give us direct access to the files the 'Files.app' can see directly in BM3's file-explorer.
(This would only work on iPadOS14+).

Time is not on my side at the moment digging into all the new apps and updates floating around...

kinkujin

@WillieNegus said:

@kinkujin said:

@WillieNegus said:

@kinkujin said:

@hansjbs said:

@kinkujin said:
Had the day off today, so spent a lot of it with BM3. Only issue I had was stuck notes in ZEEON. Is that one au that doesn’t play well with BeatMaker 3?
Otherwise, great fun, learned a lot and quite taken with it so far.

Yes Zeeon is one of those apps. I use it and don’t usually have issues. Maybe it’s because I’ve learned a few tricks of what not to do with problematic AUV3 with BM3.

Thanks @hansjbs, I’ll just avoid it. I’ve got loads of other options. Cheers.

So you’re giving Bm3 another shot? Nice. Know that you can also easily just sample the sound you want from Zeeon and make it your own instrument in Bm3. It’s actually my preferred way to use it and saves tons of CPU for audio effects, tracks or midi effects.

Yeah, this time I'm making progress, unlike the last time.

Ok, so enlighten me - does sampling a synth save cpu or is it more convenient or what? Why do that when you can just have the synth au loaded and ready-to-midi? I'm sure there is a good reason? Or is just so you can manipulate the sample?

I admit, this way of working is totally new to me. However, the grid thing is really working for me!

Yes sampling a synth will save cpu and storage space. Projects are smaller, exports are quicker and the environment is exponentially more stable although it’s stable with most AUs for me anyway.

I like working with audio better than midi yes but so does the cpu. Running AUs means just that. iPad is running several apps in addition to Bm3 which takes battery and cpu power.

Sampling the AU means you can unload those processes once you’ve captured the sound. Saving a project with AUs triggered by midi are also larger than those with just audio files.

Finally, many of the bugs and crashes people experience in Bm3 are due mainly to the same reason all hosts on iOS suffer instability...inconsistency in how AUs handle memory memory. Sampling removes this variable and also lends infinite layering/mangling possibilities.

BM3 is better at sampling than anything else. Forcing yourself to sample sounds and manipulate audio will turbo charge your understanding of the app at its best imo.

Thanks for that great explanation. I do appreciate it as I've always sort of struggled with understanding the "whys" of the sampling thing, besides the obvious mangling stuff. Awesome! I've barely gotten into the sampler yet. Phew, deep app!

echoopera

Got this going on today and so far i am remembering all the things i loved about BM3:

Wired for the following:
1-4 Macros
Drum Pads
Transport Controls
Octave-/+
Banks < | >
Solo Mute
Metronome on/off

Lots of good in here to enjoy.

foobar

Thanks for all the bug fixes and new features. Having said that, not having plugin latency compensation is a major flaw that is keeping me from using BM3 for anything other than rough mixing and as a sampler.
When can we expect to get plugin latency compensation?

Sequencer1

@foobar said:
Thanks for all the bug fixes and new features. Having said that, not having plugin latency compensation is a major flaw that is keeping me from using BM3 for anything other than rough mixing and as a sampler.
When can we expect to get plugin latency compensation?

Plugin latency compensation has been requested multiple times in the past, but I haven't heard anything.
Plus MIDI clock sync delay compensation would sure be handy.
apeMatrix is the only one I'm aware of with both.

foobar

@Sequencer1 said:

Plugin latency compensation has been requested multiple times in the past, but I haven't heard anything.

I know, that's why I'm bringing it up again.

Sequencer1

@foobar said:

@Sequencer1 said:

Plugin latency compensation has been requested multiple times in the past, but I haven't heard anything.

I know, that's why I'm bringing it up again.

And I'm just letting you know the current status. My suggestion to you would be to email Intua.

espiegel123

Is the consensus that this update is at least as stable as the version it replaces?

Jumpercollins

@echoopera said:
Got this going on today and so far i am remembering all the things i loved about BM3:

Wired for the following:
1-4 Macros
Drum Pads
Transport Controls
Octave-/+
Banks < | >
Solo Mute
Metronome on/off

Lots of good in here to enjoy.

@echoopera I got hold of a LP Pro Mk 3 last week so going to give this set up a go.

echoopera

@Jumpercollins said:

@echoopera said:
Got this going on today and so far i am remembering all the things i loved about BM3:

Wired for the following:
1-4 Macros
Drum Pads
Transport Controls
Octave-/+
Banks < | >
Solo Mute
Metronome on/off

Lots of good in here to enjoy.

@echoopera I got hold of a LP Pro Mk 3 last week so going to give this set up a go.

Super cool. You will love using it like this.

Turntablist

@AudioGus said:

@Turntablist said:
Does Dropbox work again ?

I still get a ‘too many connections’ error in the dropbox part of Bm3. Reinstalled both dropbox and BM3 and the native dropbox app works.

Doesn't work here, just continually scans, sad stuff.

reasOne

some of my favorite jams where made while using bm3, just save often and expect a crash here n there and you’ll be fine for the most part. good to see an update and hopefully more will be in the works... my biggest problem with bm3 is cracking audio with a few aus running i can load a lot more in aum but at least i can sample the sequence either to a pad or time line, off load the app and move on

tk32

@reasOne said:
some of my favorite jams where made while using bm3, just save often and expect a crash here n there and you’ll be fine for the most part. good to see an update and hopefully more will be in the works... my biggest problem with bm3 is cracking audio with a few aus running i can load a lot more in aum but at least i can sample the sequence either to a pad or time line, off load the app and move on

If you get audio crackles when loading several plugins, try increasing your audio buffer in the settings.

Mileage varies depending on your iPad model, but don't be afraid to go up to 512 or 1,024 if you want to squeeze more plugins than usual into your projects. Just be aware that each increase in buffer will also increase latency slightly.

uncledave

@Turntablist said:

@AudioGus said:

@Turntablist said:
Does Dropbox work again ?

I still get a ‘too many connections’ error in the dropbox part of Bm3. Reinstalled both dropbox and BM3 and the native dropbox app works.

Doesn't work here, just continually scans, sad stuff.

If you mean it continually scans for AUv3s, this is a known bug in iOS 14. Try accessing an IAA first, then try AUv3 again.

[Deleted User]

@reasOne as @tk32 said increasing the buffer can work wonders with what you can get going in BM3. I've been pushing with a mixture of around 24 channels in audio channels and Banks at a buffer of 512 and 1024 with a couple of AUv3s instruments and a lot of very hungry AUv3 plugins and it will hold comfortably at around 40% on the CPU gauge. This is on a iPad Pro 9.7 and this beasty can be a little sensitive to being pushed too hard.