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Your personal gamechanger on 2020?

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  • I_sip_cuppsI_sip_cupps

    Gauss is the first app I have purchased since Drambo and it is certainly a game changer for me personally. @brambos you always find a way to make something that scratches my creative itch. Well done to Hainbach as well - Both of you are outstanding creative minds.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @NeonSilicon said:
    This little device here, https://www.electro-smith.com/daisy/daisy

    It'll probably end up changing both how I use my iPad and what I do my audio development and playing on.

    I had a read and it looks more than interesting.

    Straight out of the box it has SPDIF?
    192kHz 24bit

    Very cool.

    Can it communicate with iPads?

    It has a bunch of communications possibilities. Some of them can be pretty much hooked right up and some require some interfacing hardware to get to the chip. For example, MIDI is pretty much doable right over the UART connections, but you do need to do the standard MIDI opto-isolator IC thing.

    >

    I've heard about the Midi opto-isolator IC thing but I don't know the specifics.

    I'm working through the best way to get communication from the iPad to the thing right now. I'm kinda leaning towards using a Teensy or ESP32 based dev board to be an intermediate step between the Daisy and the iPad. The communication device would interface ethernet, bluetooth, USB, MIDI, WIFI, etc, to a cluster of like 2 to 4 of the Daisies.

    I know about the communication side of things as
    you've mentioned but Teensy or ESP32 is new for me.

    I'm still in the learning stages, but it is really fun to mess around with and lots of potential.

    You and me both.

    I've had an idea ticking around in my head for quite awhile now and
    if a bridge between the Daisy and the iPad could be made using
    either an Ardunio, Teensy or ESP32, I'm presuming these devices
    do similar things then, it could make it quite affordable to do.

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  • enkayteeenkaytee
    edited November 2020

    @FPC said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Covid. Would very likely not have started my channel if I suddenly hadn't had a massive amount of free time due to covid.

    So something good came out of it then...👍

    Everyone who had less free time because of bloody covid grinds their teeth when they hear this kind of thing :#

    "I wrote a series of short stories. And they got published!" "I finally learnt to play guitar" "I dived in deep into Drambo" arrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!

    I apologise - didn't mean to offend any key workers - I know the sacrifices a lot of folks have made over the past year but for others times have also been tough - laid off, no job, lonely, mental health issues, relying on food banks etc. (believe me - some people would be really grateful to have less free time in these circumstances). If someone can use their time in a way that benefits others and perhaps themselves by giving them a purpose then isn't that a good thing?

  • muzkamuzka

    @enkaytee said:

    @FPC said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Covid. Would very likely not have started my channel if I suddenly hadn't had a massive amount of free time due to covid.

    So something good came out of it then...👍

    Everyone who had less free time because of bloody covid grinds their teeth when they hear this kind of thing :#

    "I wrote a series of short stories. And they got published!" "I finally learnt to play guitar" "I dived in deep into Drambo" arrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!

    I apologise - didn't mean to offend any key workers - I know the sacrifices a lot of folks have made over the past year but for others times have also been tough - laid off, no job, lonely, mental health issues, relying on food banks etc. (believe me - some people would be really grateful to have less free time in these circumstances). If someone can use their time in a way that benefits others and perhaps themselves by giving them a purpose then isn't that a good thing?

    This is it, I haven't had a day off since this started and work is ten times more stressful and im jealous that so many are furloughed and have paid time off but on the other hand im hugely grateful to have a job as so many I know are struggling and businesses closing.

    Always look at the positives, whatever they are :smile:

  • KrupaKrupa

    Getting back into music/sound making after a long hiatus. This is largely because of things I learned from this forum, I realised how much more I could enjoy just jamming with the iPad than I ever used to with desktop or hardware gear.

    Next gamechanger will be taking all those stems somewhere 😬

  • jolicojolico

    @Krupa said:

    Getting back into music/sound making after a long hiatus. This is largely because of things I learned from this forum, I realised how much more I could enjoy just jamming with the iPad than I ever used to with desktop or hardware gear.

    Next gamechanger will be taking all those stems somewhere 😬

    Through them in AUM and jam some more.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @Gravitas said:

    [...]

    I've heard about the Midi opto-isolator IC thing but I don't know the specifics.

    It's a really simple circuit and part of the MIDI spec. Basically, it electrically isolates the controller from the synth side. It helps to eliminate hum from the controller circuits getting into the synth side.

    I'm working through the best way to get communication from the iPad to the thing right now. I'm kinda leaning towards using a Teensy or ESP32 based dev board to be an intermediate step between the Daisy and the iPad. The communication device would interface ethernet, bluetooth, USB, MIDI, WIFI, etc, to a cluster of like 2 to 4 of the Daisies.

    I know about the communication side of things as
    you've mentioned but Teensy or ESP32 is new for me.

    The Teensy is pretty much an overpowered Arduino. You can actually program it using the Arduino IDE by adding the Teensy dev environment to the IDE. The 4.1 version of the board has got the ability to add ethernet really simply.

    The ESP32 is pretty slick dev system out of China that is meant for doing IoT stuff and has Bluetooth and WIFI built-in. It can do ethernet too, but that takes a little bit more work.

    I'm still in the learning stages, but it is really fun to mess around with and lots of potential.

    You and me both.

    I've had an idea ticking around in my head for quite awhile now and
    if a bridge between the Daisy and the iPad could be made using
    either an Ardunio, Teensy or ESP32, I'm presuming these devices
    do similar things then, it could make it quite affordable to do.

    The other way that would be pretty nice to do the connection would be to use a Raspberry Pi. It has all the ability to do USB, ethernet, MIDI, WIFI, and Bluetooth. The downside of the Pi is that it takes a lot more power and you need to be careful about how you shut it down.

    Also, if you only wanted to use one of the Daisies in a project I think you could actually do some direct connections to it using a couple of the other communications protocols that the Daisy micro-controller supports. Right now, I think it would be easier to do this using a second board as the communication interface and maybe even some of the physical knobs and switches. That would also free up the Daisy to use all of its processing on the audio stuff.

  • KrupaKrupa

    @jolico said:

    @Krupa said:

    Getting back into music/sound making after a long hiatus. This is largely because of things I learned from this forum, I realised how much more I could enjoy just jamming with the iPad than I ever used to with desktop or hardware gear.

    Next gamechanger will be taking all those stems somewhere 😬

    Through them in AUM and jam some more.

    Too right :)

  • Sequencer1Sequencer1

    Thought it would've been the Octatrack after sitting on the fence for almost 10 years, but I gotta give it to the Akai Force, especially after last month's mega-update. Apples & Oranges, but life's 2 short for the OT. Also thought the MC-101 would've grown on me, after ignoring my years-old mantra to never buy another Roland with a deep-dive menu-system, but it's a vicious cycle, this insanity (GAS/gear lust).

    iOS apps: GlitchCore, Auditor, cykle, sEGments, Oscilloscope & Spectrogram.

  • colonel_mustardcolonel_mustard

    @Gravitas said:

    @NeonSilicon said:
    This little device here, https://www.electro-smith.com/daisy/daisy

    It'll probably end up changing both how I use my iPad and what I do my audio development and playing on.

    I had a read and it looks more than interesting.

    Straight out of the box it has SPDIF?
    192kHz 24bit

    Very cool.

    Can it communicate with iPads?

    Wow, this thing looks great! If I ever get into coding, I might really get into this stuff.

  • stug111stug111

    Roland MC 707 with AUM on ipad pro. The physical controls on the Roland and big touch screen on ipad are lovely together.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Gravitas said:

    [...]

    I've heard about the Midi opto-isolator IC thing but I don't know the specifics.

    It's a really simple circuit and part of the MIDI spec. Basically, it electrically isolates the controller from the synth side. It helps to eliminate hum from the controller circuits getting into the synth side.

    Basically a ground loop remover???

    I'm working through the best way to get communication from the iPad to the thing right now. I'm kinda leaning towards using a Teensy or ESP32 based dev board to be an intermediate step between the Daisy and the iPad. The communication device would interface ethernet, bluetooth, USB, MIDI, WIFI, etc, to a cluster of like 2 to 4 of the Daisies.

    The Teensy is pretty much an overpowered Arduino. You can actually program it using the Arduino IDE by adding the Teensy dev environment to the IDE. The 4.1 version of the board has got the ability to add ethernet really simply.

    The ESP32 is pretty slick dev system out of China that is meant for doing IoT stuff and has Bluetooth and WIFI built-in. It can do ethernet too, but that takes a little bit more work.

    The other way that would be pretty nice to do the connection would be to use a Raspberry Pi. It has all the ability to do USB, ethernet, MIDI, WIFI, and Bluetooth. The downside of the Pi is that it takes a lot more power and you need to be careful about how you shut it down.

    Good to know.

    Also, if you only wanted to use one of the Daisies in a project I think you could actually do some direct connections to it using a couple of the other communications protocols that the Daisy micro-controller supports. Right now, I think it would be easier to do this using a second board as the communication interface and maybe even some of the physical knobs and switches. That would also free up the Daisy to use all of its processing on the audio stuff.

    So one board dedicated to audio and another dedicated for communication?

    @colonel_mustard said:

    Wow, this thing looks great!

    Agreed. It does look great.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @Gravitas said:

    Basically a ground loop remover???

    Yeah, that's it. I think you couldn't do this for faster communication protocols, but MIDI 5-pin DIN is pretty slow (like 80's dial-up modem slow :smiley:) so it works there.

    So one board dedicated to audio and another dedicated for communication?

    >

    Yeah, that's the way I'm thinking and working on now. You could have the communication handle displays and stuff like that too. It could also make a lot of pins available between the two boards for doing CV control of analog sections and modular synths.

    @colonel_mustard said:

    Wow, this thing looks great!

    Agreed. It does look great.

    One other thing related to this is that there is some work already done on using the Faust DSP language for the Daisy. I'd be really interested to know what people think about programming their own effects and synths for a board like this in Faust. I'd especially like to know this from the perspective of non-coders and hobby programmers. The Faust site is at [https://faust.grame.fr]. You can even play around with it on the website.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Gravitas said:

    Basically a ground loop remover???

    Yeah, that's it. I think you couldn't do this for faster communication protocols, but MIDI 5-pin DIN is pretty slow (like 80's dial-up modem slow :smiley:) so it works there.

    Some of the audiophile guys use usb isolators.
    I don't know how effective they are but the
    prices start from super cheap to very expensive.
    I haven't tried one yet because I know how to track down ground loops.
    Ground loops are the bane of any studio.

    So one board dedicated to audio and another dedicated for communication?

    Yeah, that's the way I'm thinking and working on now. You could have the communication handle displays and stuff like that too. It could also make a lot of pins available between the two boards for doing CV control of analog sections and modular synths.

    I'm wondering if it could be adapted to accept ADAT light pipe in/outs.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @Gravitas said:

    [...]

    I'm wondering if it could be adapted to accept ADAT light pipe in/outs.

    I think it would be possible to do, but a bit complicated. You could probably do it using either the SPIDF, I2S, or SAI, interfaces. there are probably chips out there that would get you the connection to the Daisy but then you'd probably need to add a transceiver layer too.

  • NoiseHorseNoiseHorse

    My big game changer was Metamucil. It now comes in Orange Gummies and I guess I eat too many too often.

  • pantherapanthera

    Yamaha QY 700 , with patterning 1 in combinatioon withe my s3000XL

    joyful , joyful

  • GravitasGravitas

    @NeonSilicon said:

    I think it would be possible to do, but a bit complicated. You could probably do it using either the SPIDF, I2S, or SAI, interfaces. there are probably chips out there that would get you the connection to the Daisy but then you'd probably need to add a transceiver layer too.

    I've noticed over the years that some audio interfaces use the SPDIF port for ADAT
    so it could be doable but I don't know enough about either formats other than
    what they can do.

    Good food for thought.

  • RedSkyLullabyRedSkyLullaby

    Endlesss. Made me enjoy the process of making music again by making music with others in the moment instead of spending 2 hrs on that perfect snare

  • supadomsupadom
    edited November 2020

    @Montreal_Music said:
    The game changer is always the newest released app :P

    Haha, yeah. I remember when Audiobus 1 came out...
    Beatmaker 2
    Patterning
    Gadget

    I doubt there’s even mention of them on the front page of audiobus forum...even Audiobus itself!
    Remember Egoist? Game changer, Quanta? Game changer, Moog Model 15? Game changer....

    Funny

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @Gravitas said:

    @NeonSilicon said:

    I think it would be possible to do, but a bit complicated. You could probably do it using either the SPIDF, I2S, or SAI, interfaces. there are probably chips out there that would get you the connection to the Daisy but then you'd probably need to add a transceiver layer too.

    I've noticed over the years that some audio interfaces use the SPDIF port for ADAT
    so it could be doable but I don't know enough about either formats other than
    what they can do.

    Good food for thought.

    I did a bit of looking around and it would be possible. It would probably take a bit of work though. It looks like ADAT lightpipe has some pretty stringent communication and clocking specs. Cool Audio (Behringer) has some IC's available to do this though. It'd probably take some work in the software to get it to fly. It's an intriguing idea. Worth looking into at some point.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @NeonSilicon said:

    I did a bit of looking around and it would be possible. It would probably take a bit of work though. It looks like ADAT lightpipe has some pretty stringent communication and clocking specs. Cool Audio (Behringer) has some IC's available to do this though. It'd probably take some work in the software to get it to fly. It's an intriguing idea. Worth looking into at some point.

    Nicely done.

    Thanks for looking around.

    Yeah, ADAT lightpipe has always been very precise with it's clock.
    It's why I've used it in my studio setups for so long.

    I think it's definitely worth looking into.
    I've been looking at the Daisy Seed in detail and the rest of the range.

    It's very impressive.

  • MadGavMadGav

    My 2020 gamechanger started in the last week of 2020 when my wife handed me down her old iPad. Software wise the surprise turn is ZenBeats as I’d not previously used clip-launching. However the game I really need to change is actually writing... though this year has got the hardware sorted to a useable state, even though my old MacBook is now faulty.

  • vrtx_voidvrtx_void
    edited November 2020

    My personal gamechanger this year was starting to mangle audio on an iPad :smile:
    before I was one of those „DAWless“ folks, and I‘ve learned a lot from it, esp. in Eurorack.
    But AUM, Drambo and all of the other stuff is actually feeling like the most accessible and inspiring replacement without cables getting in the way and finally I can save my patches.

    However soundwise my personal highlights are:

    In iOS:

    • Velvet machine
    • Woott

    Desktop:

    Apart from Sound:

    • Davinci Resolves Magic Mask in version 17(!!!)
    • My switch from the bloodsucking Adobe subscription model to Affinity, Resolve and other non-subscription based models for my professional video- and motion-design-jobs
  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous

    I'm wondering if it could be adapted to accept ADAT light pipe in/outs.

    Look at the minidsp. I’m using 3 iPads via ADAT

  • GravitasGravitas
    edited November 2020

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    I'm wondering if it could be adapted to accept ADAT light pipe in/outs.

    Look at the minidsp. I’m using 3 iPads via ADAT

    I had a quick look on Google.
    Are you referring to the mchstreamer???
    I presume you have to program it to output ADAT?
    Forgive my lack of knowledge here.

    https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/mchstreamer

    Edit.

    I had a quick read through the manual.
    Impressive and adaptable.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @Gravitas said:

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    I'm wondering if it could be adapted to accept ADAT light pipe in/outs.

    Look at the minidsp. I’m using 3 iPads via ADAT

    I had a quick look on Google.
    Are you referring to the mchstreamer???
    I presume you have to program it to output ADAT?
    Forgive my lack of knowledge here.

    https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/mchstreamer

    This looks like exactly what I was looking for earlier. 👍
    Does it require powered hub or iPad can power it on its own?
    Does it require any ‘offline’ configuration?

  • GravitasGravitas
    edited November 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @AlmostAnonymous said:

    I'm wondering if it could be adapted to accept ADAT light pipe in/outs.

    Look at the minidsp. I’m using 3 iPads via ADAT

    I had a quick look on Google.
    Are you referring to the mchstreamer???
    I presume you have to program it to output ADAT?
    Forgive my lack of knowledge here.

    https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/mchstreamer

    This looks like exactly what I was looking for earlier. 👍
    Does it require powered hub or iPad can power it on its own?
    Does it require any ‘offline’ configuration?

    I had a look through the manual.

    It seems to be powered via usb only.

    Edit.

    It's powered by both usb and external power.
    MiniDsp have two versions of their usb streamer.
    One offers 16x16 channels and the other has 24x24.

  • MarkHMarkH

    Behringer BCR2000. Bought as a hardware Animoog controller!

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