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  • Thanks I did find that one eventually.

  • @TimRussell said:
    Thanks I did find that one eventually.

    If you get it, let me know what you think

  • @TimRussell said:
    Great thanks. Not such good value though, and unfortunately not alnico models. Might pick these up as well anyhow as the rEvolution pack doesn’t have any 10” speakers in it.
    A 10+12 cab is quite unusual, but I bet it sounds great.
    I’d like them to offer a 2x10 like in a Super or Vibrolux Reverb, or 4x10 like in a Bassman, Concert or Super Reverb.

    Don’t mean to beat you over the head with links, but the spring reverb IR has alnicos, and several of the Vox IRs on the sale page have alnicos. Of course I don’t know exactly the model you’re looking for, but in the large collection there are definitely some prized alnico captures.

    https://www.ownhammer.com/store/index.php?main_page=products_new

    I will say from my experience with the “Tweed CQ” IRs, the sound decidedly different from their other IRs, the complete opposite of dark and heavy so to say.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @TimRussell said:
    Thanks I did find that one eventually.

    If you get it, let me know what you think

    That is a good find...

  • edited November 2020

    As good a deal as the rEvolution bundle is, for me it’s batting about a 3 for 6. I’m always gravitating towards the Vox AC15/30 combo IRs pairing them with almost every amp. I’m sure the others will get used too. I’ll reiterate the Zilla IR is excellent, as are the Marshalls, SRev 4x10, Bog Oversize 2x12, Bog 4x10, these are my choices for now anyway.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    @TimRussell said:
    Great thanks. Not such good value though, and unfortunately not alnico models. Might pick these up as well anyhow as the rEvolution pack doesn’t have any 10” speakers in it.
    A 10+12 cab is quite unusual, but I bet it sounds great.
    I’d like them to offer a 2x10 like in a Super or Vibrolux Reverb, or 4x10 like in a Bassman, Concert or Super Reverb.

    Don’t mean to beat you over the head with links, but the spring reverb IR has alnicos, and several of the Vox IRs on the sale page have alnicos. Of course I don’t know exactly the model you’re looking for, but in the large collection there are definitely some prized alnico captures.

    https://www.ownhammer.com/store/index.php?main_page=products_new

    I will say from my experience with the “Tweed CQ” IRs, the sound decidedly different from their other IRs, the complete opposite of dark and heavy so to say.

    Thanks. Wow, I clearly haven’t searched the website properly. I see there is a 4x10 Bassman style alnico cab.

  • edited November 2020

    Yes that’s the one! We all have our favorites right? I did get that one on the HASR recommendation. Some of the IRs give a darker more bloated sound, while other IRs can be thinner and janglier. What I love about the Zilla is it gives me the fullness and richness and broadness, but without the muddiness and bloat. I find that cabs like Orange, Mesa, some of the Bogs, can get a little too dark. Especially if we’re talking 4x12. The Vox and Marshall retains shimmer and warm harmonic content, gets squishy and pulsating in the best way. The Zilla gets full and rich, but not muddy, imho. I think there’s an art to pairing IRs with amps and guitars. If your guitar is a thin bright Fender type, and your amp sim is a clean Fender, then actually choosing a Fender type IR could make it sound even thinner, when what you’re looking for is balance in the other direction. The same with darker guitars playing darker amps, you want a brighter IR for the balance. And of course genre and playing style comes in. Anyway, the IRs that enrich the sound without mud, like Zilla, or ones that warm up and shimmer the sound, like a Vox or Marshall, are my faves right now. Rich warm and tight vs boxy and thuddy, for me.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    Yes that’s the one! We all have our favorites right? I did get that one on the HASR recommendation. Some of the IRs give a darker more bloated sound, while other IRs can be thinner and janglier. What I love about the Zilla is it gives me the fullness and richness and broadness, but without the muddiness and bloat. I find that cabs like Orange, Mesa, some of the Bogs, can get a little too dark. Especially if we’re talking 4x12. The Vox and Marshall retains shimmer and warm harmonic content, gets squishy and pulsating in the best way. The Zilla gets full and rich, but not muddy, imho. I think there’s an art to pairing IRs with amps and guitars. If your guitar is a thin bright Fender type, and your amp sim is a clean Fender, then actually choosing a Fender type IR could make it sound even thinner, when what you’re looking for is balance in the other direction. The same with darker guitars playing darker amps, you want a brighter IR for the balance. And of course genre and playing style comes in. Anyway, the IRs that enrich the sound without mud, like Zilla, or ones that warm up and shimmer the sound, like a Vox or Marshall, are my faves right now.

    Worth noting that for each cab in these libraries there are lighter and darker variants. The “summary” has their choice of “typical” but if one digs into the many different IRs in the other folders one find some dramatically different colors. All cabs have a variety of mic options...which also make a big difference.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    Yes that’s the one! We all have our favorites right? I did get that one on the HASR recommendation. Some of the IRs give a darker more bloated sound, while other IRs can be thinner and janglier. What I love about the Zilla is it gives me the fullness and richness and broadness, but without the muddiness and bloat. I find that cabs like Orange, Mesa, some of the Bogs, can get a little too dark. Especially if we’re talking 4x12. The Vox and Marshall retains shimmer and warm harmonic content, gets squishy and pulsating in the best way. The Zilla gets full and rich, but not muddy, imho. I think there’s an art to pairing IRs with amps and guitars. If your guitar is a thin bright Fender type, and your amp sim is a clean Fender, then actually choosing a Fender type IR could make it sound even thinner, when what you’re looking for is balance in the other direction. The same with darker guitars playing darker amps, you want a brighter IR for the balance. And of course genre and playing style comes in. Anyway, the IRs that enrich the sound without mud, like Zilla, or ones that warm up and shimmer the sound, like a Vox or Marshall, are my faves right now. Rich warm and tight vs boxy and thuddy, for me.

    Yeah, that's what I was hoping you'd say.

    Sometimes it's worth asking your opinion on something just to read your vivid insightful descriptions! 🤗

    Added to the must buy list!

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    Yes that’s the one! We all have our favorites right? I did get that one on the HASR recommendation. Some of the IRs give a darker more bloated sound, while other IRs can be thinner and janglier. What I love about the Zilla is it gives me the fullness and richness and broadness, but without the muddiness and bloat. I find that cabs like Orange, Mesa, some of the Bogs, can get a little too dark. Especially if we’re talking 4x12. The Vox and Marshall retains shimmer and warm harmonic content, gets squishy and pulsating in the best way. The Zilla gets full and rich, but not muddy, imho. I think there’s an art to pairing IRs with amps and guitars. If your guitar is a thin bright Fender type, and your amp sim is a clean Fender, then actually choosing a Fender type IR could make it sound even thinner, when what you’re looking for is balance in the other direction. The same with darker guitars playing darker amps, you want a brighter IR for the balance. And of course genre and playing style comes in. Anyway, the IRs that enrich the sound without mud, like Zilla, or ones that warm up and shimmer the sound, like a Vox or Marshall, are my faves right now.

    Worth noting that for each cab in these libraries there are lighter and darker variants. The “summary” has their choice of “typical” but if one digs into the many different IRs in the other folders one find some dramatically different colors. All cabs have a variety of mic options...which also make a big difference.

    Very true! I’m mostly going off the “summary” IRs and my “instant” faves. My IR pile right now is “fell in love right away” vs “put away for later adjustments”.

  • @TimRussell said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    @TimRussell said:
    Great thanks. Not such good value though, and unfortunately not alnico models. Might pick these up as well anyhow as the rEvolution pack doesn’t have any 10” speakers in it.
    A 10+12 cab is quite unusual, but I bet it sounds great.
    I’d like them to offer a 2x10 like in a Super or Vibrolux Reverb, or 4x10 like in a Bassman, Concert or Super Reverb.

    Don’t mean to beat you over the head with links, but the spring reverb IR has alnicos, and several of the Vox IRs on the sale page have alnicos. Of course I don’t know exactly the model you’re looking for, but in the large collection there are definitely some prized alnico captures.

    https://www.ownhammer.com/store/index.php?main_page=products_new

    I will say from my experience with the “Tweed CQ” IRs, the sound decidedly different from their other IRs, the complete opposite of dark and heavy so to say.

    Thanks. Wow, I clearly haven’t searched the website properly. I see there is a 4x10 Bassman style alnico cab.

    But like you say not all are on sale. So $15 for 6 in the rEvolution is a way to start the journey with your best foot forward. For the more experienced there are plenty of choice options. Definitely trust the brand quality and track record.

  • @SNystrom said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    Yes that’s the one! We all have our favorites right? I did get that one on the HASR recommendation. Some of the IRs give a darker more bloated sound, while other IRs can be thinner and janglier. What I love about the Zilla is it gives me the fullness and richness and broadness, but without the muddiness and bloat. I find that cabs like Orange, Mesa, some of the Bogs, can get a little too dark. Especially if we’re talking 4x12. The Vox and Marshall retains shimmer and warm harmonic content, gets squishy and pulsating in the best way. The Zilla gets full and rich, but not muddy, imho. I think there’s an art to pairing IRs with amps and guitars. If your guitar is a thin bright Fender type, and your amp sim is a clean Fender, then actually choosing a Fender type IR could make it sound even thinner, when what you’re looking for is balance in the other direction. The same with darker guitars playing darker amps, you want a brighter IR for the balance. And of course genre and playing style comes in. Anyway, the IRs that enrich the sound without mud, like Zilla, or ones that warm up and shimmer the sound, like a Vox or Marshall, are my faves right now. Rich warm and tight vs boxy and thuddy, for me.

    Yeah, that's what I was hoping you'd say.

    Sometimes it's worth asking your opinion on something just to read your vivid insightful descriptions! 🤗

    Added to the must buy list!

    Ha! I can bullshit about it all day long like it’s a rare expensive wine. I can only tell you what I’m into right now, I don’t know what the “best” is, since I haven’t tried them all. But sometimes you fall in love with something right away, so there’s no need for indecision.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    Yes that’s the one! We all have our favorites right? I did get that one on the HASR recommendation. Some of the IRs give a darker more bloated sound, while other IRs can be thinner and janglier. What I love about the Zilla is it gives me the fullness and richness and broadness, but without the muddiness and bloat. I find that cabs like Orange, Mesa, some of the Bogs, can get a little too dark. Especially if we’re talking 4x12. The Vox and Marshall retains shimmer and warm harmonic content, gets squishy and pulsating in the best way. The Zilla gets full and rich, but not muddy, imho. I think there’s an art to pairing IRs with amps and guitars. If your guitar is a thin bright Fender type, and your amp sim is a clean Fender, then actually choosing a Fender type IR could make it sound even thinner, when what you’re looking for is balance in the other direction. The same with darker guitars playing darker amps, you want a brighter IR for the balance. And of course genre and playing style comes in. Anyway, the IRs that enrich the sound without mud, like Zilla, or ones that warm up and shimmer the sound, like a Vox or Marshall, are my faves right now.

    Worth noting that for each cab in these libraries there are lighter and darker variants. The “summary” has their choice of “typical” but if one digs into the many different IRs in the other folders one find some dramatically different colors. All cabs have a variety of mic options...which also make a big difference.

    Very true! I’m mostly going off the “summary” IRs and my “instant” faves. My IR pile right now is “fell in love right away” vs “put away for later adjustments”.

    I've been periodically trying out the 'dark' and other alternatives and need to explore more. Too many options.

  • F yeah, I love their stuff

  • We need to find that post from a month or so ago about how to download the IRs on desktop and package the ones you need, then move to your iDevise.

    It was hugely helpful!

    These downloads are full of files!

  • @SNystrom said:
    We need to find that post from a month or so ago about how to download the IRs on desktop and package the ones you need, then move to your iDevise.

    It was hugely helpful!

    These downloads are full of files!

    I’ll make a video of how to do this using only iPhone/iPad, since I don’t use desktop. The IR files from the OwnHammer site download directly from the iOS browser into the Files app, and can easily be unzipped, consolidated, rezipped, and opened inside the convolution app of your choice...

  • edited November 2020

    What apps do you recommend to hande IR files for guitar gears modeling on iOS? Are there any noticeable differences between them?

  • @SNystrom said:
    We need to find that post from a month or so ago about how to download the IRs on desktop and package the ones you need, then move to your iDevise.

    It was hugely helpful!

    These downloads are full of files!

    I've added a link on the wiki -- pro tip: PLEASE links to golden posts like this to the wiki

    https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=forum_gold

    (or go to the wiki and type Ownhammer in the search box)

  • @bsokol said:
    What apps do you recommend to hande IR files for guitar gears modeling on iOS? Are there any noticeable differences between them?

    I would have to say Thafknar, it’s what I use. It’s universal too. Low cost, you have to buy the three IAPs to use it fully, and the whole thing comes in under $10. It just makes sense, it can load zipped files directly in the app. All you do when you load the IR is adjust the gain, it defaults to 1.0. Extremely easy, once you understand the efficient but bare bones UI.

    Many people like IMPULSation, exists as a standalone app or as an iap inside IFXRack. It also works very well and looks sleeker, but it’s not universal. Personally I also find the additional knobs on the rack a little confusing, so a higher learning curve than just loading an IR into Thafknar and volume matching the gain parameter. In terms of results, they will sound the same, perhaps with slight variations in cpu load. There’s also iConvolver and Jax, the options for IR loaders are very limited actually. But something like Thafknar definitely gets the job done. I’ll post a video of the loading and getting around process.

    Bias FX2 can actually load IRs now, Overloud will have its own IR loader soon, and Nembrini will release an IR loader plugin as well. So IRs for iOS are definitely a good future investment.

  • @bsokol said:
    What apps do you recommend to hande IR files for guitar gears modeling on iOS? Are there any noticeable differences between them?

    The sound quality will be the same in all of them per reports. THAFKNAR has been pretty optimized (to the extent one can optimize such a cpu-heavy task) with some multi-processing that seems to pay off on the iPad Pro's. It also (as far as I know) is the only one that can handle true stereo (which means either four single channel or two stereo IRs created for stereo-to-stereo convolution) convolution if one has true stereo IRs (most of the 'stereo' IRs that people use are stereo files created for mono to stereo applications -- as this saves tons of CPU and is the way that typical reverbs worked until fairly recent times). Many find the u.i. of Impulsation more aesthetically appealing.

    If you don't need multiple IRs at once, the free Fiddlicator works very well.

  • Thanks @JoyceRoadStudios and @espiegel123 for the detailed explanation.
    I will try Thafknar. Btw. Impulsation is on sale $12.99 -> $4.99 during BF.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @SNystrom said:
    We need to find that post from a month or so ago about how to download the IRs on desktop and package the ones you need, then move to your iDevise.

    It was hugely helpful!

    These downloads are full of files!

    I've added a link on the wiki -- pro tip: PLEASE links to golden posts like this to the wiki

    https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=forum_gold

    (or go to the wiki and type Ownhammer in the search box)

    Yeah, that was the one. Thanks @espiegel123!

  • Looks like Redwirez IRs are 50% off. They have a Marshall cab response you can try for free:

    https://redwirez.com

  • It's actually a free pack of IRs...

  • @bsokol said:
    Thanks @JoyceRoadStudios and @espiegel123 for the detailed explanation.
    I will try Thafknar. Btw. Impulsation is on sale $12.99 -> $4.99 during BF.

    Honestly at that price you could get both and see which one gels with your workflow. Unless you need something universal which means Thafknar, since IMPULSation is iPad only. I have IFX Rack which is a wonderful fx app, and it has IMPULSation as an iap rackmount which is very cool, I just don’t use it atm. My IRs are loaded into Thafknar. The same IR set up the same will sound exactly the same with both apps.

  • There are a few other companies that make quality IRs comparable to OwnHammer, but OwnHammer is unanimously considered one of the best if not the best in the IR business. In any case I cannot recommend free IRs whatsoever. If they were any good they wouldn’t be free. Life is too short to clutter your device with a hundred thousand free IRs. It’s worth it to invest in the best.

  • Only brought them up @JoyceRoadStudios, because it was mentioned in the first paragraph of the IR article you recommended for reading back on page one:

    https://honestampsimreviews.com/2019/03/04/ownhammer

  • Just curious @JoyceRoadStudios, did you ever get to test IRs with your single-coil guitars, and if so, which of the Ownhammer packs would you recommend?

  • @SNystrom said:
    Only brought them up @JoyceRoadStudios, because it was mentioned in the first paragraph of the IR article you recommended for reading back on page one:

    https://honestampsimreviews.com/2019/03/04/ownhammer

    Yes of course, all of the brands, including OwnHammer or Choptones or Celestion, either have or have had free IR offerings. You can still find the old OwnHammer freebies floating around the net, they were considered some of the best. The free Marshall IR you mention from Redwirez is extremely popular, I’ll be sure to check it out. There’s 3 Sigma, Seacow, honestly too many IR companies to name. OwnHammer is generally considered the best and certainly top 3.

    I guess my point is that I learned the hard way, once I downloaded the HASR Free Pack...

    https://honestampsimreviews.com/2020/05/24/hasr-free-pack-2-0/

    3500 free IRs!!! None that I could find that stood out, I gave up after a couple hundred and deleted the pack. Some were downright bad. So with my limited experience I can say the OwnHammers have more than earned their status. Others will agree. That’s not to say there aren’t good freebies floating around, there are, but you have to really dig.

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