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Actually, here’s an update. I decided to take it out to the car again for another listen. At around the 3 minute mark in the video you can see me fiddling with the Threshold and output knobs in MDES. I believe there is some clipping going on after that point now that I’ve given another listen. Thanks for helping me single it out.
@Intrepolicious My pleasure to help!
@Intrepolicious Nice track. Just got in the door and read through the thread. Put your track up on my reasonably nice studio monitors and....as has been noted the kick is definitely the clipping element. You'll notice that the lights are red in the output of the kick channel and on the output of AUM when the kick kicks. I have noticed that the output of Drum Computer can run a little on the hot side at times. So, if you lowered that a little and then hit the kick with some nice compression...well could be nice. I do like the track. the balance of everything else sounds right.
Thanks for the listen! This was my first time using MagicDeathEye Stereo and the 6144 EQ and I wanted to push everything to their extreme limits. I want to see if I can pull that clipping out with those tools (MDES and the 6144EQ) rather than lowering the actual track volume.
I also have this shiny new (to me!) Amazing Noizes Limiter on standby just in case.
This piece was mostly a learning exercise for me,
where I tried adding elements of all shapes and sizes to play with to get a feel for what MDES can do.
@Intrepolicious , don’t understand all the limiting, Eq talk, far too advanced for me but the end result is a great piece of music. Thanks for posting it.
Cool. I understand. Maybe I just missed the point....or misunderstood what was written earlier...easy to do...
Thanks Tony! I really appreciate you having a listen, and leaving the kind words.
I’ve been into making music all my life, well, since I was a young teen anyway. I’m 51 now, so going on 40 years. I’ve always only paid attention to the playing of the instrument, ie playing technique, over audio quality. Back in the day, if I managed to record something, even if it was only on an old crappy cassette tape recorder, I was just happy that it was recorded period.
Being on the other side of the mixing console as a “producer” is all fairly new to me as well, and I’m just learning as I go. The tools we have at our disposal nowadays have really opened my eyes (and ears!) to what kind of things go into producing a great sound mix, and in the end, and great sounding album.
Rick Beato has a fantastic video on YT that explains a lot of this kind of stuff. Well worth the watch!
Rick Beato is great, and he talks like a studio pro who's dropping pearls of wisdom at a barbecue after a few IPAs.
Another great video series is from FabFilter.
Gorgeous ED! I missed this link first time around. You are a very talented artist. Keep on keepin on! Cheers, E.D.
@tja
Thanks, I’ll check out the stuff you posted later when I get home and able to listen. At work today.
Aww thanks for the kind words Susan! I thought you’d be interested to hear a “Cykle” project in action.
Yes Indeed ED. I was MOST impressed! Wow. That’s my kind of music. Cheers, Susan
I agree with all the posters - this is amazingly good, @Intrepolicious. My first thought was it would make a perfect Twenty One Pilots song. I can really hear Tyler’s voice over it (maybe give him a call..?).
But I’m not sure I can hear what MDES or 6144 are adding to it. I would love to hear it without them. Or with an equivalent product for comparison (I think that’s been discussed already). I’m not asking you to do that! That would be loads of work...
Yes what a perfect idea.
The thing is, with Cykle, one can get very interesting results very quickly by just plugging in a few notes. Not much talent even required!
Thank you for the very kind compliment!
On your second point, it’s probably because I am still very much a newbie at this compression, limiting, and mastering thing. I have learned a LOT though, just from the very technically talented people right here in this thread, and of course ABF as a whole.
lol can somebody text me his number 😂
Thanks! Armed with some new knowledge, I’m going to keep all of this in mind upon a remix and/or my next projects!
I’ll keep plugging away at it. Thanks again for sharing your insight!
Just wanted to say this is a really nice sounding track. I like the way the bass, pad and melody/lead work together. Nice sound!
I didn't read through all the comments so I might be re-stating something that was already mentioned. But as for the mix, I though the hats were a little too up front, maybe try to push them back. Also the kick seems to cause distortion when it hits.
Thank you so much for giving the track a spin! I’ve been so happy with the feedback I’ve been getting!
Yeah, that’s the general consensus on the kick. There’s a little clipping going there, and I’ve been learning a lot about how to remedy this, thanks to the amazing members of this forum.
Sorry I missed this one! Groovy Ed! I bought a shed load of shiny new APPS over the BF weekend, I still need to find some time in between holiday stuff to start playing. Thank you so much for your help and encouragement with Cykle~Your a good neighbour! Happy Holidays! E.D.
Compressors at very high compression ratios can be used as limiters.
Normally at ratios of around 1:10 upwards.
Compressors tend to colour the sound and limiters tend to be transparent.
Here's an interesting article on limiters from iZotope.
https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/an-introduction-to-limiters-and-how-to-use-them.html
Those Isotope folks gave me free cookies! I'll summarize to save folks the trouble and insure I get all the cookies!
a limiter is a compressor with a ratio of more than 10:1
We compress for many reasons:
1. to shape the feel of an instrument
2. to shrink its dynamic range to occupy a more manageable space
3. for color
A limiter is used to catch the loudest moments to protects against unwanted distortion but maintaining the mix’s overall balance or color. USE TRANSPARENT COMPRESSORS IF LIMITING. If they call it a Limiter it's intended NOT to color.
Yup, that's another way of putting it.
See my comment above.