Jazz chord symbols and further Jazz related discussion

yowza

@McD said:
It's going to cost me $40 to get the Fareed Haque video lesson "Jazz Comping Survival Guide". I'm intrigued but hesitant.

TrueFire has sales all the time so unless you gotta have it now it will be cheaper if you can wait.

McD

There's a great explanation of "guide tones' and how shell voicings can be applied on this free web lesson page:

https://www.learnjazzstandards.com/blog/learning-jazz/jazz-theory/use-guide-tones-navigate-chord-changes/

espiegel123

@McD said:
It's going to cost me $40 to get the Fareed Haque video lesson "Jazz Comping Survival Guide". I'm intrigued but hesitant.

Your tutelage begins with basic guide tones and an intuitive system for building your chord vocabulary with extensions until you've rapidly acquired and have command of ALL of the chords and colors used by jazz guitarists.

Next stop; Fareed's Four principles of Chord Substitution, which he formulated to instinctively guide you to and through any modern jazz harmony you might encounter in four easy steps. Along the way, you'll develop a solid grip on tri-tone subs, leading chords, adding bass notes, extensions, inverting color tones, jazz blues harmony, various comping styles, and rhythmic patterns. You'll learn to apply these principles to all of the jazz progressions you'll explore to create unique and interesting accompaniments.

Fareed polishes off the journey with thirteen "Trade Secrets" that he developed over many years on the bandstand backing up vocalists and soloists; Slipping and Sliding, Tremolo, Walking Bass Lines, Bossa Comping, Guide Tones Combined with Melody, Horn Section Stabs and Imitation, Backgrounds, B3 Pedal Points, Harmonics, and Guide Tones Plus Three Extensions.

All in all, the Jazz Comping Survival Guide covers everything you need to know to get and keep the gig. Jump on board!

There are clues here we haven't discussed that related to jazz harmonic choices:

guide tones
Chord Substitution
tri-tone substitutions (based on tritone inversion self-similarity/ambiguity)
leading chords

Google any of these and report back.

Until one is pretty comfortable with the basic chord families and progressions, it is too early to think about substitutions, imo.

McD

Wikipedia has an excellent page on "Chord Substitution"... driving home the guide tones and tri-tone substitution. It also mentions and details secondary dominants and replacing any dominant 7th with a ii-V7 pair to add even more harmonic motion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_substitution

McD

Berkelee Online serves up a chapter from a book on Guitar Voice leading that ends with "drop 2 voicings" that has me scratching my head a bit.

https://online.berklee.edu/takenote/voice-leading-for-guitar/

To reverse a drop 2 voicing move the lowest note up an octave and see what the intended original chord is.

GovernorSilver

@McD said:
It's going to cost me $40 to get the Fareed Haque video lesson "Jazz Comping Survival Guide". I'm intrigued but hesitant.

Your tutelage begins with basic guide tones and an intuitive system for building your chord vocabulary with extensions until you've rapidly acquired and have command of ALL of the chords and colors used by jazz guitarists.

Next stop; Fareed's Four principles of Chord Substitution, which he formulated to instinctively guide you to and through any modern jazz harmony you might encounter in four easy steps. Along the way, you'll develop a solid grip on tri-tone subs, leading chords, adding bass notes, extensions, inverting color tones, jazz blues harmony, various comping styles, and rhythmic patterns. You'll learn to apply these principles to all of the jazz progressions you'll explore to create unique and interesting accompaniments.

Fareed polishes off the journey with thirteen "Trade Secrets" that he developed over many years on the bandstand backing up vocalists and soloists; Slipping and Sliding, Tremolo, Walking Bass Lines, Bossa Comping, Guide Tones Combined with Melody, Horn Section Stabs and Imitation, Backgrounds, B3 Pedal Points, Harmonics, and Guide Tones Plus Three Extensions.

All in all, the Jazz Comping Survival Guide covers everything you need to know to get and keep the gig. Jump on board!

There are clues here we haven't discussed that related to jazz harmonic choices:

guide tones
Chord Substitution
tri-tone substitutions (based on tritone inversion self-similarity/ambiguity)
leading chords

The course does cover all 4 items that you list above. I feel that it does teach all four in an easy to understand matter but another viewer/student may disagree.

The guide tones are introduced the 3rd lesson in the course after Lesson 1 Intro, Lesson 2 How Fareed got fired from playing chords with too many notes. This lesson assumes you know how to construct a 7th chord, and what extensions are.

The first chord substitution lesson requires that you know what a dominant chord is.

Fareed offers 4 Principles of Chord Substitution. The tritone substitution lesson appears after Principle #3 is introduced. So you have to know 3 of the 4 Principles in order to be ready for the tritone sub.

If you have specific questions about Fareed's course, I will attempt to answer them.

GovernorSilver

@yowza said:

@McD said:
It's going to cost me $40 to get the Fareed Haque video lesson "Jazz Comping Survival Guide". I'm intrigued but hesitant.

TrueFire has sales all the time so unless you gotta have it now it will be cheaper if you can wait.

This is true. I don't think I paid full price on any of Fareed's courses. The Juiced Blues course that was mentioned ages ago in this thread cost me only $5 when it was on sale.

GovernorSilver

@McD said:
Berkelee Online serves up a chapter from a book on Guitar Voice leading that ends with "drop 2 voicings" that has me scratching my head a bit.

https://online.berklee.edu/takenote/voice-leading-for-guitar/

To reverse a drop 2 voicing move the lowest note up an octave and see what the intended original chord is.

Pretty good article by Berklee. You would have to work through each and every single example to get the most value out of it. Note that the Drop 2 stuff is introduced near the end of the article. Not near the beginning.
Near the end. This strongly implies the reader should understand the material preceding the intro to Drop 2.

Randy Vincent wrote a Drop 2 book. It was one of the first books authored by him that I got.
https://www.shermusic.com/1883217644.php

However, that book will be very difficult for a guitarist to process without previous work with Randy's other book. I think Randy authored this book after realizing how many guitar students had a hard time jump straight into the Drop 2 stuff:
https://www.shermusic.com/9780997661743.php

Mark Levine authored a Drop 2 book for pianists. Randy's Drop 2 book was adapted for guitar from this book.
https://www.shermusic.com/1883217474.php

espiegel123

@Ailerom : here are a couple of short free lessons that I think you will find useful from Jens Larsen...and I recommend taking his advice to use what they cover to go play through some charts. You may want to watch them first without stopping to see where he is going and then watch again and pausing as necessary to try us out he is teaching on your guitar.

5 basic exercises

3 levels to know