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sigma79

A midi mapped knob to Drambo euclidean 2 sequencer, affects Drambo track 1 sequencer.

xor

@sigma79 said:

A midi mapped knob to Drambo euclidean 2 sequencer, affects Drambo track 1 sequencer.

I just tried this with the KB-1 app and it works as expected, only the mapped knob changes when I turn the KB-1 knob.

I assume you are using an external, physical, controller? Maybe you could try with a controller app like kb-1 or something like a Rosetta lfo just to see if you can rule anything in or out.

Are the knobs on the other track’s Euclidean sequencer also mapped to anything? If not, what happens if you do map them? If they are what happens if you unmap them?

soundtemple

@tahiche said:
Sorry for insisting, but I’m really curious.
Does anybody have any advice regarding my post above?

Im working on a Drum Machine thing and I’ve made some progress but hit a wall. Sorry for the long post!.

As I explain, my problem is that depending on the midi/audio connection the order of tracks needs to change as you can only connect to previous tracks. Midi Output seems to be only for external midi, as is Audio Output module so I don’t know if there’s a way to get around the track-order issue. Or if it’s even possible.

Hey @tahiche ... bit late to the party (and sounds like you may have it sorted already) but I had previously made something similar to easily switch between 24 Kicks, Snares etc. Using a very similar approach to @rs2000 suggested.
Just posting here in case it is of use.

Not sure if you use Ableton but this style of multi-rack was a popular thing to nest into a Drum Rack allowing you to have one Drum Rack to make all your drum sounds. Thats what inspired me to make something similar in Drambo.

tahiche

@rs2000 said:
@tahiche Hmm, I can't see any velocity layers in your video.
It's rather quiet on the bottom, loud on the top if you increase the Velocity knob value.
Or up to 4 different samples with the same level mapped to one key but 4 different vertical velocity zones.
This is how it would look when you map 4 samples to 4 different notes in 4 different velocity ranges:

(Of course, each sample can have its own mapped zone, for a total of up to 128x4 samples in one sampler preset.)

I meant velocity slices, not layers.
Here’s a (terrible) pic of what’s happening. Higher velocities play samples to the left while lower to the right. That’s the opposite of Flexi and the logical left/low - right/high. I’m actually very surprised it’s happening.

sigma79

@xor said:

@sigma79 said:

A midi mapped knob to Drambo euclidean 2 sequencer, affects Drambo track 1 sequencer.

I just tried this with the KB-1 app and it works as expected, only the mapped knob changes when I turn the KB-1 knob.

I assume you are using an external, physical, controller? Maybe you could try with a controller app like kb-1 or something like a Rosetta lfo just to see if you can rule anything in or out.

Are the knobs on the other track’s Euclidean sequencer also mapped to anything? If not, what happens if you do map them? If they are what happens if you unmap them?

Its the same with Kb-1. Iv turned down track 2 even though knob 2 on kb is mapped to euclidean 2 but it affects track 1. Same as with external controllers. Kb is midi ch 1. Different cc. Drambo is onmi but dosent seem to work when different midi in and different midi out or omni. Kb to Drambo then Drambo to sb. I think its sb drum even though its being sequenced.

sigma79

Listen to sound of kick drum when I turn knob 2 and with track 2 off.

uncledave

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rs2000

@tahiche That's the way it works, if you like to reverse the slice order then use one of these to invert the velocity signal:

Edward_Alexander

@wim said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@wim said:
Humm .... GeoShred scaling issues have not been fixed. That was supposed to be addressed by the fixes for Atom, so I dunno. I never experienced problems with Atom in Drambo so I don't know what to look for.

Air2 13.7 ?

Sorry
Which device do you use, on which OS?

Yep, Air 2 13.7. Is there some significance to that in this case?

Mine is a 2018 iPad Pro 11” and having the same scaling issues with GeoShred.

dvi

Oh these new filters are glorious. Resonance, pinging, and self-oscillation for days. One of the main reasons I got the microfreak was the analog filter; I think that’s where the real difference between thin, digital sounds and beefy goodness is at. These new filters really add a whole new dimension to drambo; @giku_beepstreet is a wizard!

coolout

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:
Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

You would need dc coupled interface for that. You may get a ‘gate’ signal through your interface, which could be used to sync/trigger volca, but for CV you’ll need a dc coupled interface.

Every iOS device has 2 CV outputs through the built-in headphone out or an Apple lightning to headphone adapter. Been that way for years. The headphone jack is DC-coupled. All you need is a TRRS to dual mono TS adapter. I've run CV from LFO apps and modules in Mirack to my little Moog Werkstatt on everything from iphone 5 to a 2020 ipad.

gusgranite

The filters sound nice 🪐

Lorichs

Thank for the update and thanks for fixing the shot sampler @giku_beepstreet

wim

Atom 2 is smooth as butter for me, at least on the latest beta.

sigma79

@coolout said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:
Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

You would need dc coupled interface for that. You may get a ‘gate’ signal through your interface, which could be used to sync/trigger volca, but for CV you’ll need a dc coupled interface.

Every iOS device has 2 CV outputs through the built-in headphone out or an Apple lightning to headphone adapter. Been that way for years. The headphone jack is DC-coupled. All you need is a TRRS to dual mono TS adapter. I've run CV from LFO apps and modules in Mirack to my little Moog Werkstatt on everything from iphone 5 to a 2020 ipad.

So I could sequence a Volca modular with Drambo? What would I gain instead of volca modular sequencer?

Thanks.

sigma79

@sigma79 said:

@xor said:

@sigma79 said:

A midi mapped knob to Drambo euclidean 2 sequencer, affects Drambo track 1 sequencer.

I just tried this with the KB-1 app and it works as expected, only the mapped knob changes when I turn the KB-1 knob.

I assume you are using an external, physical, controller? Maybe you could try with a controller app like kb-1 or something like a Rosetta lfo just to see if you can rule anything in or out.

Are the knobs on the other track’s Euclidean sequencer also mapped to anything? If not, what happens if you do map them? If they are what happens if you unmap them?

Its the same with Kb-1. Iv turned down track 2 even though knob 2 on kb is mapped to euclidean 2 but it affects track 1. Same as with external controllers. Kb is midi ch 1. Different cc. Drambo is onmi but dosent seem to work when different midi in and different midi out or omni. Kb to Drambo then Drambo to sb. I think its sb drum even though its being sequenced.

@giku_beepstreet

Is this not working as described. No one has replied to say if its fixed.

Thanks.

Carnbot

Really nice to see the audio interface update, did get a crash so still some bugs I think, but this is usually the case with this type of release so should be more stable after more bug fixes

Drambo is such a great environment now, the main things which hold back my flow with it (compared to AUM for example) are the mixer which I find small and fiddly, wish you could dynamically resize tracks...and some AUv3 which don't scale their guis, which then have their displays squished into the Drambo gui. Being able to zoom in on these would help too.

branis

@0tolerance4silence said:
Some additional info from earlier discussions for those interested:

TR - moog model
OTA - cem model (e.g Oberheim)

SK - Sallen Key topology
SK1 LPF - smoother (more like Korg 35)
SK2 LPF - screamer (more like Steiner Parker, e.g. microbrute)
SK HPF

thanks!

aleyas

@Carnbot said:
Drambo is such a great environment now, the main things which hold back my flow with it (compared to AUM for example) are the mixer which I find small and fiddly, wish you could dynamically resize tracks...and some AUv3 which don't scale their guis, which then have their displays squished into the Drambo gui. Being able to zoom in on these would help too.

I would also love if there was a 'fullscreen' rack view - just the same as how AUv3 instances can be expanded to fullscreen. That would make using some large racks a bit easier, having some vertical space that is.

drewinnit

@0tolerance4silence thanks for those filter explanations, much appreciated

Carnbot

@aleyas said:

@Carnbot said:
Drambo is such a great environment now, the main things which hold back my flow with it (compared to AUM for example) are the mixer which I find small and fiddly, wish you could dynamically resize tracks...and some AUv3 which don't scale their guis, which then have their displays squished into the Drambo gui. Being able to zoom in on these would help too.

I would also love if there was a 'fullscreen' rack view - just the same as how AUv3 instances can be expanded to fullscreen. That would make using some large racks a bit easier, having some vertical space that is.

Yeah a fullscreen rack view would be very helpful.
I think also being able to custom scale the ui could help, as in Ableton for example.

sigma79

@sigma79 said:

@sigma79 said:

@xor said:

@sigma79 said:

A midi mapped knob to Drambo euclidean 2 sequencer, affects Drambo track 1 sequencer.

I just tried this with the KB-1 app and it works as expected, only the mapped knob changes when I turn the KB-1 knob.

I assume you are using an external, physical, controller? Maybe you could try with a controller app like kb-1 or something like a Rosetta lfo just to see if you can rule anything in or out.

Are the knobs on the other track’s Euclidean sequencer also mapped to anything? If not, what happens if you do map them? If they are what happens if you unmap them?

Its the same with Kb-1. Iv turned down track 2 even though knob 2 on kb is mapped to euclidean 2 but it affects track 1. Same as with external controllers. Kb is midi ch 1. Different cc. Drambo is onmi but dosent seem to work when different midi in and different midi out or omni. Kb to Drambo then Drambo to sb. I think its sb drum even though its being sequenced.

@giku_beepstreet

Is this not working as described. No one has replied to say if its fixed.

Thanks.

Its the filter system in aum I think. Began to think it were for just audio but its also midi and to fix you need to filter per channel. You cant seem to filter multi out per channel. Is there a way to fix this?

sigma79

Can anyone confirm if its possible to euclidean sequence sb drum from drambo. The notes are set in drambo per track to trigger sb drum track ( note ) but cc mappings of euclidean sequencers are cross modded. As shown in video. If you can get it to work. Please let me know.

jolico

@0tolerance4silence said:
Some additional info from earlier discussions for those interested:

TR - moog model
OTA - cem model (e.g Oberheim)

SK - Sallen Key topology
SK1 LPF - smoother (more like Korg 35)
SK2 LPF - screamer (more like Steiner Parker, e.g. microbrute)
SK HPF

👍

sigma79

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:
Can anyone confirm if its possible to euclidean sequence sb drum from drambo. The notes are set in drambo per track to trigger sb drum track ( note ) but cc mappings of euclidean sequencers are cross modded. As shown in video. If you can get it to work. Please let me know.

What do you mean by “cc mapping cross modded” ?
I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to achieve...
Are you trying to sequence DrumCompumter from Drambo, while being able to tweak Drambo from a controller via CC? Is that correct?

Hi.

kb1 knob 1 is mapped to drambo euclidean 1. Kb1 knob 2 is mapped to drambo euclidean 2 but knob 2 ( kb1 ) affects the euclidean 1. Even though euclidean 1 knob dosent move because its not mapped to knob 2 ( kb1 ) Different cc numbers.

Thanks.

sigma79

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:
Can anyone confirm if its possible to euclidean sequence sb drum from drambo. The notes are set in drambo per track to trigger sb drum track ( note ) but cc mappings of euclidean sequencers are cross modded. As shown in video. If you can get it to work. Please let me know.

What do you mean by “cc mapping cross modded” ?
I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to achieve...
Are you trying to sequence DrumCompumter from Drambo, while being able to tweak Drambo from a controller via CC? Is that correct?

Hi.

kb1 knob 1 is mapped to drambo euclidean 1. Kb1 knob 2 is mapped to drambo euclidean 2 but knob 2 ( kb1 ) affects the euclidean 1. Even though euclidean 1 knob dosent move because its not mapped to knob 2 ( kb1 ) Different cc numbers.

Thanks.

I don’t have KB1 or DrumComputer, but using Mozaic to send CCs, it works fine here...

Can you maybe save/share your AUM project to check if there are routing issues?

I can get it to work with Drambo. Not drum computer. I route midi controller or kb1 to Drambo, then Drambo to drum computer. Drum computer is a midi channel in aum. Omni with virtual midi etc in standalone settings. Drum computer is multi out so theres the usual fiter system in aum ( which dosent apply to multi out ) but multi euclidean tracks in drambo with same midi channel but different cc should work?

Thanks.

sigma79

Vid proccessing. Add drambo. Set midi out for each euclidean track. Set note in each drambo eucliedean to trigger zone of drum computer.. Set keyboard zones on drum computer. Route in aum so kb1 sends midi to drambo and drambo sends note to drum computer. Map kb1 to a knob of each euclidean but different cc. Cross modulation/mapping.

sigma79

Dosent work even on same track, with euclidean notes to trigger zones on drum computer. This is also without midi.

sigma79

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:
Can anyone confirm if its possible to euclidean sequence sb drum from drambo. The notes are set in drambo per track to trigger sb drum track ( note ) but cc mappings of euclidean sequencers are cross modded. As shown in video. If you can get it to work. Please let me know.

What do you mean by “cc mapping cross modded” ?
I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to achieve...
Are you trying to sequence DrumCompumter from Drambo, while being able to tweak Drambo from a controller via CC? Is that correct?

Hi.

kb1 knob 1 is mapped to drambo euclidean 1. Kb1 knob 2 is mapped to drambo euclidean 2 but knob 2 ( kb1 ) affects the euclidean 1. Even though euclidean 1 knob dosent move because its not mapped to knob 2 ( kb1 ) Different cc numbers.

Thanks.

I don’t have KB1 or DrumComputer, but using Mozaic to send CCs, it works fine here...

Can you maybe save/share your AUM project to check if there are routing issues?

I can get it to work with Drambo. Not drum computer. I route midi controller or kb1 to Drambo, then Drambo to drum computer. Drum computer is a midi channel in aum. Omni with virtual midi etc in standalone settings. Drum computer is multi out so theres the usual fiter system in aum ( which dosent apply to multi out ) but multi euclidean tracks in drambo with same midi channel but different cc should work?

Thanks.

Sorry, I struggle to see where the issue might be from the description.
Can you share a project with the problem?

What do you think mate?

espiegel123

@sigma79 said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sigma79 said:
Can anyone confirm if its possible to euclidean sequence sb drum from drambo. The notes are set in drambo per track to trigger sb drum track ( note ) but cc mappings of euclidean sequencers are cross modded. As shown in video. If you can get it to work. Please let me know.

What do you mean by “cc mapping cross modded” ?
I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to achieve...
Are you trying to sequence DrumCompumter from Drambo, while being able to tweak Drambo from a controller via CC? Is that correct?

Hi.

kb1 knob 1 is mapped to drambo euclidean 1. Kb1 knob 2 is mapped to drambo euclidean 2 but knob 2 ( kb1 ) affects the euclidean 1. Even though euclidean 1 knob dosent move because its not mapped to knob 2 ( kb1 ) Different cc numbers.

Thanks.

I don’t have KB1 or DrumComputer, but using Mozaic to send CCs, it works fine here...

Can you maybe save/share your AUM project to check if there are routing issues?

I can get it to work with Drambo. Not drum computer. I route midi controller or kb1 to Drambo, then Drambo to drum computer. Drum computer is a midi channel in aum. Omni with virtual midi etc in standalone settings. Drum computer is multi out so theres the usual fiter system in aum ( which dosent apply to multi out ) but multi euclidean tracks in drambo with same midi channel but different cc should work?

Thanks.

Sorry, I struggle to see where the issue might be from the description.
Can you share a project with the problem?

What do you think mate?

Have you used a midi monitor to examine the midi stream to make sure the ccs and channels leaving Drambo are what you intend?