Drambo is an AU host now / the new Drambo mega thread

Gravitas

@sigma79

“although if drambo could rewind audio in samplers as a song mode”

Have a look at the ‘speed’ input on the “Flexi sampler” module and “scratch mode”.
We can rewind and have samples play backwards or forwards using a combination of both.

tahiche

@bcrichards said:
@sigma79 you could set note from keyboard with Euclidean sequencer this way:

The first midi to cv sets the note, the second converts the Euclidean sequencer into cv, then they are combined with a note generator, then back to midi to CV for output.

This is so smart. Sort of hate you.

But I can still hear the input note on the keyboard. Why is that?. You should only trigger the gate via the Euclidean sea. Right?.
Figured it out, if you only want to trigger notes form the seq, disconnect the midi input...

Can I join the “Drambo genius” club now?.

sigma79

@Gravitas said:
@sigma79

“although if drambo could rewind audio in samplers as a song mode”

Have a look at the ‘speed’ input on the “Flexi sampler” module and “scratch mode”.
We can rewind and have samples play backwards or forwards using a combination of both.

Hi mate.

Say you had a 20 pattern drums in drambo that were still midi or p locked and can be edited. If you audio record synths and because synth rweaking and effects were good. Would this be able to load a synth recording thats 20 patterns. If you skip from pattern 20 to pattern 18 to edit drums. Would it rewind the synth recording to where synth would be at pattern 18. So you can see how the drum edit will sound to the original synth recording. Dont think it would factor in mutes and solos of performance. Think it would only work if you used Drambo as a host and used mutes and solos. Drambo would need a midi mixer like 4 pockets. Drambo as a host has p-locks anyway.

sigma79

@tahiche said:

@bcrichards said:
@sigma79 you could set note from keyboard with Euclidean sequencer this way:

The first midi to cv sets the note, the second converts the Euclidean sequencer into cv, then they are combined with a note generator, then back to midi to CV for output.

This is so smart. Sort of hate you.

But I can still hear the input note on the keyboard. Why is that?. You should only trigger the gate via the Euclidean sea. Right?.
Figured it out, if you only want to trigger notes form the seq, disconnect the midi input...

Can I join the “Drambo genius” club now?.

What does this mean. If the Euclidean sounds arpish by nature. When you press a key to change note you were getting an additional key from keyboard? Does de-activating midi, deactivate external midi control?

tahiche

@sigma79 said:

@tahiche said:

@bcrichards said:

What does this mean. If the Euclidean sounds arpish by nature. When you press a key to change note you were getting an additional key from keyboard? Does de-activating midi, deactivate external midi control?

Exactly, I was getting the additional keyboard note struck. Sounded like a “bouncy” note. As you say, the eucledian was letting that note through, don’t know why.
If you actually want the input note, additionally to the eucledian, I found it best to add a midi mixer and increase the voice count in cv gate. That way you can have, say, a pad and a rhythmic pattern underneath.

sigma79

@tahiche said:

@sigma79 said:

@tahiche said:

@bcrichards said:

What does this mean. If the Euclidean sounds arpish by nature. When you press a key to change note you were getting an additional key from keyboard? Does de-activating midi, deactivate external midi control?

Exactly, I was getting the additional keyboard note struck. Sounded like a “bouncy” note. As you say, the eucledian was letting that note through, don’t know why.
If you actually want the input note, additionally to the eucledian, I found it best to add a midi mixer and increase the voice count in cv gate. That way you can have, say, a pad and a rhythmic pattern underneath.

Will check when I load. Will record a drum session because the euclidean via an array of external midi control is good.

sigma79

@sigma79 said:

@Gravitas said:
@sigma79

“although if drambo could rewind audio in samplers as a song mode”

Have a look at the ‘speed’ input on the “Flexi sampler” module and “scratch mode”.
We can rewind and have samples play backwards or forwards using a combination of both.

Hi mate.

Say you had a 20 pattern drums in drambo that were still midi or p locked and can be edited. If you audio record synths and because synth rweaking and effects were good. Would this be able to load a synth recording thats 20 patterns. If you skip from pattern 20 to pattern 18 to edit drums. Would it rewind the synth recording to where synth would be at pattern 18. So you can see how the drum edit will sound to the original synth recording. Dont think it would factor in mutes and solos of performance. Think it would only work if you used Drambo as a host and used mutes and solos. Drambo would need a midi mixer like 4 pockets. Drambo as a host has p-locks anyway.

Think I need to see how good again Drambo will be as a host. Issues were not being able to tweak more than one synth on screen and I dont know synths enough to set up midi via controller to tweak a synth via midi and then another on screen but you do obviously get the benefit of p-locking everthing. Other issues were audio input. I think Id be sampling volva drum now anyway if I use Euclidean sequencer ( need to find best sampler patch ) with most control to edit samples. Then that leaves volca modular input. Then I bought a headache sound omni. Although I doubt Id be making a track then doing some scratch or deck inputs whilst making a track with sequencers and synths etc. I think I were going to try inputing a dvs program into aum. Then duplicating the inputs in aum. If there were no phasing because only one input would ever not be bypassed. With bypasses left or right via midi keyboard. Bypasses would be linked to guass record on or off. So maybe an auv3 looper, that has cue points from an iphone.

Will check Drambo as a host and report back to ask what Id need.

sigma79

@tahiche said:

@sigma79 said:

@tahiche said:

@bcrichards said:

What does this mean. If the Euclidean sounds arpish by nature. When you press a key to change note you were getting an additional key from keyboard? Does de-activating midi, deactivate external midi control?

Exactly, I was getting the additional keyboard note struck. Sounded like a “bouncy” note. As you say, the eucledian was letting that note through, don’t know why.
If you actually want the input note, additionally to the eucledian, I found it best to add a midi mixer and increase the voice count in cv gate. That way you can have, say, a pad and a rhythmic pattern underneath.

Hi. This works good for Euclidean notes and to sequencer.

Can you do a screen shot of adding a midi mixer so you can still use normal keys if euclidean is off but ideally the euclidean and normal sequencer both have a chance module?

sigma79

Gotta log out for now. Theres been an error in switching energy companies and its bank holiday. Dosent seem new supplier has control of meter because old supplier left it in prepay. Although phoned loads of times. Might be sitting in 1860 for a while. Speak soon.

tahiche

Im working on a Drum Machine thing and I’ve made some progress but hit a wall. Sorry for the long post!.

I want to achieve a “Preset Machine”.

I have plenty of drum samples (Samples From Mars and others) that I’ve built into kits. I want to be able to switch the whole kit at once instead of having to kit piece by kit piece, which is what I’m going now and it’s time consuming.
So if I have all kit pieces under one instrument I can save a preset and load a different kit at once.
Why not save it as a Drambo project preset?.
Because you’ll loose the pattern, the midi data. I want to be able to switch sounds but keep the sequence.

Where does it get tricky?. The obvious way is to just load a whole kit on a track and use note filters per kit piece. BUT you loose the sequencer track view. You end up with overlapping notes, probably a chord where a kick and hihat occur at once... a mess.

So I want to keep individual tracks with individual seq lanes AND the possibility of multiout audio. Kick, snare, etc on their own tracks in aum or a daw.

This is how it looks:

You got individual tracks and an “Instrument track” that hold the presets and sound generators.

The midi data from the track is routed to a layer in the instrument where the kit resides. This is doable since the midi track precedes the instrument track.

Now the audio is tricky. I want to output the instrument layer’s sampler or generator audio back through the track. To have the audio on its own track and be able to do further fix processing and multiout.

I can’t do it since the audio out is AFTER the track.

So I cheat and move the instrument before the track I want to output the audio to.

After making the connection I move things back in place and connections are there. Everything’s good. Except I can’t save the presets!. Connections are lost when saving the preset. I guess it sees my “cheating” and disconnects them.
So where is the problem?. In my attempt, I can connect the midi but not the audio. If I switch the order of tracks I can connect the audio but not the midi... I mean, I can but it’s not saved in the preset. Which I just figured out after spending hours on this...

Any of you Drambo gurus that can help me out?. To recap what I’m attempting:

• Regular tracks for sequence lanes and multiout.
• A centralized “instrument” and/or track that I can save as a preset and switch all sounds at once independent of midi data.

Thanks in advance.

Lorichs

@rs2000
Thanks for your help and time. I got it now. The gate on the second sampler was connected to the trigger. It should have been connected to the adder🤦🏻‍♂️. Stupid me 🙄

bcrichards

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tahiche

Sorry for insisting, but I’m really curious.
Does anybody have any advice regarding my post above?

Im working on a Drum Machine thing and I’ve made some progress but hit a wall. Sorry for the long post!.

As I explain, my problem is that depending on the midi/audio connection the order of tracks needs to change as you can only connect to previous tracks. Midi Output seems to be only for external midi, as is Audio Output module so I don’t know if there’s a way to get around the track-order issue. Or if it’s even possible.

0tolerance4silence

@tahiche said:
Sorry for insisting, but I’m really curious.
Does anybody have any advice regarding my post above?

Im working on a Drum Machine thing and I’ve made some progress but hit a wall. Sorry for the long post!.

As I explain, my problem is that depending on the midi/audio connection the order of tracks needs to change as you can only connect to previous tracks. Midi Output seems to be only for external midi, as is Audio Output module so I don’t know if there’s a way to get around the track-order issue. Or if it’s even possible.

Currently your best option is to save kits as D projects I believe.
There are things in the pipeline that will help you later (dedicated solution for drums with chokes and stuff).

One thing you can try to overcome audio routing limitation is to use feedback send/receive modules (MISC/UTILITY).

rs2000

@tahiche What about throwing all samples into samplers and transposing by octaves?
Each octave has one separate kit.
For example, kicks on C0, C1, C2, C3..., snares on D0, D1, D2... and so on?
This would also let you change individual samples in a kit without destroying anything else.

Oh, and you won't have any loading times - instant drum kit switching 😊

tahiche

@rs2000 said:
@tahiche What about throwing all samples into samplers and transposing by octaves?
Each octave has one separate kit.
For example, kicks on C0, C1, C2, C3..., snares on D0, D1, D2... and so on?
This would also let you change individual samples in a kit without destroying anything else.

Oh, and you won't have any loading times - instant drum kit switching 😊

Not a bad idea! 💡
I always head to Flexi because I like the options, modulating the speed control, start point and such. But having a dozen flexis in layers is probably overkill. Using the sampler seems very straightforward, I’m gonna try it. Maybe have one for acoustic snares, another for electric... I’ll see if I can make the mapping work.

rs2000

@tahiche said:

@rs2000 said:
@tahiche What about throwing all samples into samplers and transposing by octaves?
Each octave has one separate kit.
For example, kicks on C0, C1, C2, C3..., snares on D0, D1, D2... and so on?
This would also let you change individual samples in a kit without destroying anything else.

Oh, and you won't have any loading times - instant drum kit switching 😊

Not a bad idea! 💡
I always head to Flexi because I like the options, modulating the speed control, start point and such. But having a dozen flexis in layers is probably overkill. Using the sampler seems very straightforward, I’m gonna try it. Maybe have one for acoustic snares, another for electric... I’ll see if I can make the mapping work.

Yes, one Sampler on each drum instrument track.
Another thing you can do, apart from the octave switching, is to "mis-use" velocity layers. You have yet another option to switch between them by modulating the input velocity. Sampler itself will play all these samples at the same level as long as you keep the Velocity knob at zero. You could load the same sample on 4 different velo windows with different root keys (i.e. different pitches) or different start points. And the sampler is quite efficient, it doesn't hurt to have multiple instances on the tracks.

Fingolfinzz

Update out

Frank303

@Fingolfinzz said:
Update out !

Wooohoooo! Filters 😋

drewinnit

oh hell yes

jolico

“LP 24 OTA” sounds amazing 🥲

auxmux

Multi-channel support is amazing as is support for Eurorack/cv.

echoopera

Simply the best developer and app around 👊🏼™️ @giku_beepstreet

sloJordan

does anyone know if there is a way to do the reverse of this External CV instrument? CV to midi from a eurorack source, like through an es-8 module?

0tolerance4silence

@sloJordan said:
does anyone know if there is a way to do the reverse of this External CV instrument? CV to midi from a eurorack source, like through an es-8 module?

You can inject external audio via ‘Audio input’ module and then use it as CV to modulate or convert to midi with Note generator or CC generator depending which type of midi do you need.

shinyisshiny

what does the audio output module do exactly? does it send to AUM etc? for recording stems ?

sloJordan

@0tolerance4silence said:

@sloJordan said:
does anyone know if there is a way to do the reverse of this External CV instrument? CV to midi from a eurorack source, like through an es-8 module?

You can inject external audio via ‘Audio input’ module and then use it as CV to modulate or convert to midi with Note generator or CC generator depending which type of midi do you need.

awesome thanks!

0tolerance4silence

@shinyisshiny said:
what does the audio output module do exactly? does it send to AUM etc? for recording stems ?

When Drambo used as an AUv3 inside AUM (or host with multichannel support) you can use them to route audio directly to host.

When standalone, you can route audio directly to your interface ports.

It’s an additional way to interface external audio on top of the track settings, in case you need it in your patch... f.e I’m using it to send CV signals out to my hw synths.

Edit: almost forgot, another huge addition for Audio input and output modules is that you can pipe audio across your tracks (within Drambo limitations - respecting track order).

sigma79

Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

rs2000

@sigma79 said:
Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

Via a CV interface... but why use a Volca Modular if you have an iDevice with Drambo already?