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Drambo is an AU host now / the new Drambo mega thread

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  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @sigma79 said:
    Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

    You would need dc coupled interface for that. You may get a ‘gate’ signal through your interface, which could be used to sync/trigger volca, but for CV you’ll need a dc coupled interface.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

    You would need dc coupled interface for that. You may get a ‘gate’ signal through your interface, which could be used to sync/trigger volca, but for CV you’ll need a dc coupled interface.

    Yup, need DC coupled outputs like a Motu audio interface or Expert Sleepers. Most audio interface are not DC coupled.

  • aleyasaleyas

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Edit: almost forgot, another huge addition for Audio input and output modules is that you can pipe audio across your tracks (within Drambo limitations - respecting track order). :)

    In standalone, is it possible to internally send audio out from a track to the same track? Eg, from 1 to 1? When I read your post I started thinking this could be another way to play with feedback loops. I gave it a quick try, but seemed to only connect to external (mic) input.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @aleyas said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Edit: almost forgot, another huge addition for Audio input and output modules is that you can pipe audio across your tracks (within Drambo limitations - respecting track order). :)

    In standalone, is it possible to internally send audio out from a track to the same track? Eg, from 1 to 1? When I read your post I started thinking this could be another way to play with feedback loops. I gave it a quick try, but seemed to only connect to external (mic) input.

    Sorry, could have been clearer...
    “within Drambo limitation - respecting track order” meaning top to bottom rule still applies.
    You can only route audio out to following tracks (Audio output), and receive audio from previous tracks (Audio input).
    Feedback comes at a price (delay), with Feedback send/receive modules. There is no way around that.
    This is more of layout improvement - if you route audio across tracks, this helps you to keep track.

  • wimwim

    @tahiche said:
    Where does it get tricky?. The obvious way is to just load a whole kit on a track and use note filters per kit piece. BUT you loose the sequencer track view. You end up with overlapping notes, probably a chord where a kick and hihat occur at once... a mess.

    It's possible I'm oversimplifying, not having fully got my head around what you're trying to do but ...

    Wouldn't this be a lot simpler if you just used two Drambo instances? One for sequencing, with midi out to another for loading your kit projects.

    If you're trying to do it in standalone then it might work to host the sequencing Drambo as an AU in the Main channel. In theory. Not tested.

  • aleyasaleyas

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @aleyas said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Edit: almost forgot, another huge addition for Audio input and output modules is that you can pipe audio across your tracks (within Drambo limitations - respecting track order). :)

    In standalone, is it possible to internally send audio out from a track to the same track? Eg, from 1 to 1? When I read your post I started thinking this could be another way to play with feedback loops. I gave it a quick try, but seemed to only connect to external (mic) input.

    Sorry, could have been clearer...
    “within Drambo limitation - respecting track order” meaning top to bottom rule still applies.
    You can only route audio out to following tracks (Audio output), and receive audio from previous tracks (Audio input).
    Feedback comes at a price (delay), with Feedback send/receive modules. There is no way around that.
    This is more of layout improvement - if you route audio across tracks, this helps you to keep track.

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @aleyas said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Edit: almost forgot, another huge addition for Audio input and output modules is that you can pipe audio across your tracks (within Drambo limitations - respecting track order). :)

    In standalone, is it possible to internally send audio out from a track to the same track? Eg, from 1 to 1? When I read your post I started thinking this could be another way to play with feedback loops. I gave it a quick try, but seemed to only connect to external (mic) input.

    Sorry, could have been clearer...
    “within Drambo limitation - respecting track order” meaning top to bottom rule still applies.
    You can only route audio out to following tracks (Audio output), and receive audio from previous tracks (Audio input).
    Feedback comes at a price (delay), with Feedback send/receive modules. There is no way around that.
    This is more of layout improvement - if you route audio across tracks, this helps you to keep track.

    Yeah, I was thinking I might be able to cheat the min 10ms feedback delay with these new modules. Thanks for clearing that up 😁

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Ooh it’s going to be another late night!

    I’m seeing ALL of my Scarlett 4i4’s inputs and outputs, including the internal loopback channel. Sweet!

    Just had a quick experiment with taking the audio from my Deepmind 12 into a Drambo track and messed around with the new analog filter on it.

    This is amazing...

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Wait... is Atom 2 fixed?

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    I just tried opening a project with Atom 2 in it in my phone... and it opened! 😀

  • wimwim
    edited April 2021

    @Intrepolicious said:
    Wait... is Atom 2 fixed?

    Good question. I think the fix was said to be scheduled for "the next update".

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Oh I’m going to be rushing home to check the iPad.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @auxmux said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Anyway for Drambo to sequence a volca modular? Dont think so. Zoom u44/faderfox pc12.

    You would need dc coupled interface for that. You may get a ‘gate’ signal through your interface, which could be used to sync/trigger volca, but for CV you’ll need a dc coupled interface.

    Yup, need DC coupled outputs like a Motu audio interface or Expert Sleepers. Most audio interface are not DC coupled.

    Thanks

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Yeah, I was just at home, headed out the door for dinner, I read about the update. Tried out the audio input before leaving.

    Now I’m out with just my phone, and can’t wait to get back home lol!

  • clowmclowm

    Atom2 works fine in Drambo latest version . Didn’t have any crashes or bugs

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    In this update a lot of AU related issues have been addressed.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    Wow, a working Atom 2 and Full audio interface support? This is like Christmas!

    Thank you @giku_beepstreet 🙏

  • sigma79sigma79

    Problems. Reset Ipad to factory state. Just saying.

    Getting cross midi mapping with drambo euclidean sequencing sb drum via midi. Turning a knob not even on same midi channel has some effect on others but not loads. Sort of like a bad midi cabe but cable is van damme and I posted before a video of a bad midi cable, where as the van damme were the fix. Drambo cant be double mapped so cant work out why its like it. Upon resetting ipad I set zoom u44 to be 1024 buffer to match aum. Works fine sequencing drambo drums.

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz

    Holy f I’m stoked on these filters. Audio interface is fantastic as well. Once I can export stems I don’t know if I’ll need to buy anymore apps

  • wimwim
    edited April 2021

    Humm .... GeoShred scaling issues have not been fixed. That was supposed to be addressed by the fixes for Atom, so I dunno. I never experienced problems with Atom in Drambo so I don't know what to look for.

  • sigma79sigma79

  • sigma79sigma79

    You can hear midi from track 2 affecting track 1. Is it the controller/cable/buffer settings. Sb drum or Drambo? Controller works with Drambo.

  • tahichetahiche

    @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @tahiche What about throwing all samples into samplers and transposing by octaves?
    Each octave has one separate kit.
    For example, kicks on C0, C1, C2, C3..., snares on D0, D1, D2... and so on?
    This would also let you change individual samples in a kit without destroying anything else.

    Oh, and you won't have any loading times - instant drum kit switching 😊

    Not a bad idea! 💡
    I always head to Flexi because I like the options, modulating the speed control, start point and such. But having a dozen flexis in layers is probably overkill. Using the sampler seems very straightforward, I’m gonna try it. Maybe have one for acoustic snares, another for electric... I’ll see if I can make the mapping work.

    @rs2000 said:

    @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @tahiche What about throwing all samples into samplers and transposing by octaves?
    Each octave has one separate kit.
    For example, kicks on C0, C1, C2, C3..., snares on D0, D1, D2... and so on?
    This would also let you change individual samples in a kit without destroying anything else.

    Oh, and you won't have any loading times - instant drum kit switching 😊

    Not a bad idea! 💡
    I always head to Flexi because I like the options, modulating the speed control, start point and such. But having a dozen flexis in layers is probably overkill. Using the sampler seems very straightforward, I’m gonna try it. Maybe have one for acoustic snares, another for electric... I’ll see if I can make the mapping work.

    Yes, one Sampler on each drum instrument track.

    I have to check the new AudioOut modules, I think they might simplify my previous atttempt.

    I did work on your solution @rs2000 . I have to say I like how immediate it is.
    I had to organize samples by name so that kit pieces mapped right accross tracks, that way I can globally transpose and it changes the whole kit with the right kit pieces.

    Here’s a brief demo:

    I do have an issue with slices triggered by velocity in the sampler. They seem to be the wrong way around!. It should go from quite on the left to loud on the right. That’s how it is in flexi, in the sampler I’m getting the opposite which doesn’t make sense.

    @wim youre probably right about using 2 instances, one for sequencer and one for sounds. But I’m afraid if I change some mapping or outputs I’ll have to do it in every project/preset. I’m trying to have one project where I can do the mapping, outputs or whatever and just change the sounds. That’s how I did it with my old DrumMachines and I sort of miss that. DigiStix has that too, where you can switch kits independently from sequence data.

  • Frank303Frank303

    @sigma79 said:

    I don’t know man, it works fine for me

  • wimwim

    @tahiche said:
    @wim youre probably right about using 2 instances, one for sequencer and one for sounds. But I’m afraid if I change some mapping or outputs I’ll have to do it in every project/preset. I’m trying to have one project where I can do the mapping, outputs or whatever and just change the sounds. That’s how I did it with my old DrumMachines and I sort of miss that. DigiStix has that too, where you can switch kits independently from sequence data.

    I could be drastically over-simplifying, but I don't think that would be an issue. If your sequencing AU is set up with the midi output channels you need, it's just one AUM connection with all channels enabled between the two of them.

    Judging from the hoops you're jumping through to try to do it in one instance, I think you're multiplying, not reducing, the potential points of failure.

    But ... that's just from a cursory understanding of your goal. Take it with a huge grain of salt. ;)

  • drezdrez

    What about Audio Tracks?

    *ducks

  • tk32tk32
    edited April 2021

    For those wondering...

    Although it wasn’t mentioned explicitly in the release notes, today’s Drambo update does indeed fix all the Atom2 issues.

    Coming next will be closer integration of the two apps.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Frank303 said:

    @sigma79 said:

    I don’t know man, it works fine for me

    Euclidean via midi to sb drum?

  • sigma79sigma79

    Works fine with Drambo drums. Just had a tweak. Nothing special. Just getting used to setup.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @wim said:

    @tahiche said:
    @wim youre probably right about using 2 instances, one for sequencer and one for sounds. But I’m afraid if I change some mapping or outputs I’ll have to do it in every project/preset. I’m trying to have one project where I can do the mapping, outputs or whatever and just change the sounds. That’s how I did it with my old DrumMachines and I sort of miss that. DigiStix has that too, where you can switch kits independently from sequence data.

    I could be drastically over-simplifying, but I don't think that would be an issue. If your sequencing AU is set up with the midi output channels you need, it's just one AUM connection with all channels enabled between the two of them.

    Judging from the hoops you're jumping through to try to do it in one instance, I think you're multiplying, not reducing, the potential points of failure.

    But ... that's just from a cursory understanding of your goal. Take it with a huge grain of salt. ;)

    How would you set a controller? Each euclidean per track is set to find the note to trigger in sb drum per track. So a cc per control with omni out should be fine?

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited April 2021

    @tahiche Hmm, I can't see any velocity layers in your video.
    It's rather quiet on the bottom, loud on the top if you increase the Velocity knob value.
    Or up to 4 different samples with the same level mapped to one key but 4 different vertical velocity zones.
    This is how it would look when you map 4 samples to 4 different notes in 4 different velocity ranges:

    (Of course, each sample can have its own mapped zone, for a total of up to 128x4 samples in one sampler preset.)

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