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KVR thread about those that don't.
KVR thread about those that might do.
Would someone please ELI5 the IK multimedia deal?
I will say that the experience with them during the current group buy is a lot better than before.
They still do things that are a bit annoying but at least they don't make you use iLok. IK have never been responsible for a hard kernel panic that took down my Mac!
I've had pretty crappy experiences installing audio software on my Mac from almost all the other developers.
The best of the lot in my experience is Audio Damage. Install, paste in serial number, done. I hate having to deal with limited numbers of authorisations. Especially when they're taken away from you after a year. Looking at you Waves. (Never again-- IK have replaced most of my Waves plug-ins now anyway!).
So yeah, IK will always do something to needle their customers, being of Italian ancestry I can say it's on par with my experiences in Italy and dealing with Italian suppliers for work. The customer is never right in Italy
And one IK annoyance is now a positive for me (thanks to the group buy); I hated having my plug-in menu filled up with plug-ins I couldn't use. Now I have them all so it's not an issue anymore
How much would it cost you to sell them all?
Nothing. They're NFR.
Also, in the more decades than I care to remember that I've been using computers to make music, I've never sold any software. Ever.
I just made the mistake of launching Waves Central; Was going to check which plug-ins I will lose the second license from next.
Waves Central is a worse experience than IK Multimedias Product Manager. It wouldn't even launch without forcing me to download and install an update to Waves Central first. And then it relaunches with me logged out. And it won't get my password from keychain.
I need to make some space for all these IK plug-ins, I think I'm going to enjoy deleting Waves plug-ins more than installing them.
So - do I get it right - when I am mainly interested into the 299 Euro area - where MixBox, Syntronik, SampleTank and the Hammond are located ...
Then the only way to approach this is to buy one of the products of this price level?
It is not possible by purchasing one of the synths - either the uno or the drum synth - right?
Cause the only hardware I see in the 299 region ist the Irigkeys49 - and I am not really interested in this ...
But I got confused when I was reading that someone got Syntronik deluxe (399) after purchasing Uno synth (199)? So how could that happen?
And - does anyone believe they will add the Uno Synth Pro to the qualifying products at one point? This would intrigue me ..
This here, but with one caveat: ONLY go for the additional bought item if you have already bought something. If you're still waiting to jump in, you may absolutely be better off by going in at 400 instead of going in multiple times, say at 200+100+100. That's because the higher purchase may open up all the deluxe etc. versions that give you all the small parts for free, so depending on what you want, one set of 25 freebies starting from on high may actually take you further than 75 freebies starting from a lower price point.
Long story short, those of you who are yet to buy anything - do the math first.
Nope. The good news is that, for example, you can buy in at 199, and then get as freebies anything that costs 199 or less from the qualifying product list, including the crossgrade versions of the three items you listed. IK doesn't advertise this very much - for obvious reasons, I think.
(I did exactly this myself btw, but please don't take my word for it, it never hurts to ask their support. You have enough time until the end of October.
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If you login to your IK account (or create one) you should see the prices reduce to €199 If you have any plugin in the €99 tier. So if you buy anything €99 or more, then Mixbox, Syntronik, Hammond etc are all €199.
I got Syntronik Deluxe, Sampletank 4, Mixbox, Modo Drum, Modo Bass, Hammond, etc. all with the €199 tier.
I think the €199 tier is definitely the sweet spot, and being able to get that tier with the UNO synth is fantastic.
I'm not 100% sure how I could get Syntronik Deluxe, but yeah, I definitely got it in the €199 tier.
Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised either way but my guess is no as they're going to hit the full 24 free fairly soon I think. It's already at 22. But then maybe they will go nuts with extras if they hit the target?
I'm very impressed with T-Racks 5, Mixbox, Modo Drum, Modo Bass and Hammond. The new X-Gear 'pedals' in Amplitube seem very good too.
@Bon_Tempi Basically, everything that klownshed just said is my experience as well as I went through the exact same steps today. This includes the odd but welcome addition of Syntronik Deluxe as that is indeed from the next tier up. The TrackS Deluxe however was not part of the deal despite being in the 299 tier but I only wanted a few pieces from that anyway.
I have 7 slots left at the 199 tier but have not yet picked up any of the X-Gears. I only went for the TrackS Leslie as apparently the one in Amplitube is the same tech. I'll be leaving a few spare in case there are any more surprises. Need to install some of what I have and work out where everything will live. The UNO Synth remains in its packaging.
I've also ordered the iRig HD 2 to get me back in to the 99 level which will let me pick up the main IAPs of Amplitube that were not worth burning my 199 tier product options on and should also let me get the TrackS tape plugins and one or two of the better regarded SampleTank IAPs such as the American Acoustic.
You got it, as did I, because there is an item called Syntronik deluxe upgrade (not crossgrade this time) in the freebie list which is well below 199. That apparently made it cheaper to get the deluxe version than the normal version somehow… These guys are weird.
You could also buy 200 Gear Credits for $150, use those to buy in at the $199 tier and save 25% off the top.
I think you can use Jam Points towards the Gear credits too.
You will get some jam points just for registering., then extra Jam points for downloading AmpliTube Custom Shop FREE, T-RackS Custom Shop FREE and SampleTank FREE and when you join the newsletter... Max 30% off.
UVI Falcon is 30% off ($244) until October 18th and includes your choice of 2 free expansions too. UVI don't often discount Falcon and this is the best deal they've had recently. You can also purchase Falcon via resellers too, and some of these may offer a small discount above the 30%.
https://www.uvi.net/falcon.html
I don’t really understand what Falcon is. Is this something like Omnisphere?
Omnisphere on steroids. It's generally considered to be the best and most powerful synth available in either software or hardware.
This review does a really good job of explaining its virtues (and its warts). The main downside is that all its power comes a level of complexity (but it's no more complicated than Omnisphere). However it's well documented, and as long as you understand the various synthesis methods it provides, its a powerhouse that can't be matched.
https://www.whippedcreamsounds.com/uvi-falcon-review/
I picked this particular review as the vast majority of reviews were for v1, and Falcon has gone through many innovations over its short history to v2.5 (v1 came out in 2016).
Here's a smattering of the major reviews:
And for those who like to read the manual before purchase:
UVI Falcon 2.5 Manual
Even with the discount, this is an expensive synth (especially so if this purchase comes on top of an IK group buy), but it's most definitely worth it.
I can confirm that you can enter with two different pieces of hardware. I registered my new iRig HD 2 at the 99 level and received a further set of freebies.
One thing to note is that I had the option to choose a "free gift" from a selection of CE products when registering the iRig HD and TrackS 5 SE was one of these. Fortunately I had already chosen TrackS 5 as a free gift already rather than the SE version so I was able to get the rest of the more expensive plugins that come with the SE version without spending a free gift slot.
Slightly OT but does anyone in the UK know if Anderton’s are actually based there/deliver from there? The Amazon price for the uno has risen, but they still have it at £109 but I had a bad experience with BAX earlier this year when a three day delivery turned into about a month (thanks Brexit, one of your many benefits). I’m still tempted by the drum for some reason, but that’s £160, though not much more than the £137 now being the Amazon price for the synth…
Also, with the upgrade/crossgrade thing, is it the case that you could get the SE version of something, Miroslav for example, then use another slot to upgrade that to the full version? (with only one purchase)
There’s an Andertons shop in Guildford, I’ve bought stuff from them before and not had any problems.
https://www.andertons.co.uk/guildford-store-info
23 free 🐳
One more to come if we’re lucky.
considering the time left, that shouldn't be a problem
. But the old question, of what I'm going to take this time remains. Last time I picked X-Space and X-Time, as I found out I can use those on a send bus with AT 5 and the rest bypassed. Don't know if I can make use of the other two.
Ah cool, I’ll give them a ring tomorrow when I’m back in the country, nice one 👍👍
Yeah, I just picked up X-Time. Looks like a really nice delay. Hoping to get X-Space with my last higher tier slot (I’m also picking off some $79 tier pedals etc, from a $12 buy in)
Yep I grabbed X-time and X-Space after trialling them. Sounding nice although authorising them has borked my Amplitube with the X-Time plugging originally showing as still in trial and with everything on Amplitube now showing as locked. Doh!
@gusgranite may I ask how you paid $12 for the $79 tier?
I also grabbed the X-Drive and there's no way to register it using their Authorization Manager software, despite it showing as having been downloaded on my Promotions page. Their registration software insisted the first three alphanumeric characters in the registration code HAD TO BE LETTERS, but they were a combination of letters and numbers...
So instead, I looked at the email they sent me which had a link, I clicked on it and their goofy system "seems" to have acknowledged I have the software in my AmpliTube 5 software... But in the future, who knows what might go wrong? On the "My Products" page it still doesn't show the download or the serial number.
This kind of confusion is exactly why I hate the download and registration systems individual companies have set up. I'd MUCH rather they offered all of this stuff through Apple's App Stores (both macOS and iOS). Apple offers simplicity and reliability.
Counterpoint: I would prefer Apple having much less control over my software purchases instead of even more. Build decent hardware, guys, with actual ports, and let me worry about what I put on it
Sure, IK's system indeed looks and feels like malevolent crap, with two "manager" apps that don't offer any value but mix things up between themselves, or charging users again for future downloads, you name it. But I can't recall my other vendors, from NI through Arturia to Izotope etc., ever giving me any headaches. So I don't want Apple anywhere near the software I have been buying from them, just because IK can't sort their stuff out. 🤷
I appreciate YMMV though.
The X-Gears are new and require Amplitube 5.2. They're not in any other version.
Make sure you're up to date then the easy way to make sure they'll be in Amplitube after you authorise them is to open up Custom Shop and select "Restore my Purchases" from the drop down menu at the top right of the window (next to your username).
The X-Gear plugins sound really nice on first try and are very versatile; It's like having a dozen of the other pedals, T-Racks effects in one and the sound on first impression is really good.
I'd like them as T-Racks fx too, just to make the UI bigger and easier, but they're easy enough to use in Amplitube with everything else bypassed. I've already saved some Logic channel strips with them set up like that so it's easy to load up each of them with one click.