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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @mbncp said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @cem_olcay said:

    @mbncp said:
    What would be really nice is a gate mode, pressing a key (converted to CC10) it would play a clip immediately (from the beginning) and loop as long as I hold that key (sending CC10 = 0 or just some empty clip when done).

    You can actually achieve that with a simple MIDI mapper/transformer app or a Mozaic script :smile:

    Yes, but right now the clips follow the timeline position, to be more accurate I would love an option that when triggering CC10 the clip would always play from the beginning, a bit like a sampler.
    Neither Drambo or LK can do that (afaik), so it would be neat. Now I can understand that it could be too much work to implement, just an idea :)

    LK’s clips can be triggered by MIDI events.

    Yes, but unless I’m missing something, it will only start at the end of a bar.
    I’m looking for something like Drambo’s Flexi, with all the cool modes and options, but for MIDI, plus some extra ideas à la @lukesleepwalker
    Will see how far I can go with Mozaic :#

    When you trigger an LK clip, it starts playing from the clip’s beginning.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @cem_olcay said:

    @mbncp said:
    What would be really nice is a gate mode, pressing a key (converted to CC10) it would play a clip immediately (from the beginning) and loop as long as I hold that key (sending CC10 = 0 or just some empty clip when done).

    You can actually achieve that with a simple MIDI mapper/transformer app or a Mozaic script :smile:

    Yes, but right now the clips follow the timeline position, to be more accurate I would love an option that when triggering CC10 the clip would always play from the beginning, a bit like a sampler.
    Neither Drambo or LK can do that (afaik), so it would be neat. Now I can understand that it could be too much work to implement, just an idea :)

    LK’s clips can be triggered by MIDI events.

    Yes, but unless I’m missing something, it will only start at the end of a bar.
    I’m looking for something like Drambo’s Flexi, with all the cool modes and options, but for MIDI, plus some extra ideas à la @lukesleepwalker
    Will see how far I can go with Mozaic :#

    When you trigger an LK clip, it starts playing from the clip’s beginning.

    Even when the host transport is off? I'm away from home and can't try it on my iPad. But if so, that's exciting!

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @cem_olcay said:

    @mbncp said:
    What would be really nice is a gate mode, pressing a key (converted to CC10) it would play a clip immediately (from the beginning) and loop as long as I hold that key (sending CC10 = 0 or just some empty clip when done).

    You can actually achieve that with a simple MIDI mapper/transformer app or a Mozaic script :smile:

    Yes, but right now the clips follow the timeline position, to be more accurate I would love an option that when triggering CC10 the clip would always play from the beginning, a bit like a sampler.
    Neither Drambo or LK can do that (afaik), so it would be neat. Now I can understand that it could be too much work to implement, just an idea :)

    LK’s clips can be triggered by MIDI events.

    Yes, but unless I’m missing something, it will only start at the end of a bar.
    I’m looking for something like Drambo’s Flexi, with all the cool modes and options, but for MIDI, plus some extra ideas à la @lukesleepwalker
    Will see how far I can go with Mozaic :#

    When you trigger an LK clip, it starts playing from the clip’s beginning.

    Even when the host transport is off? I'm away from home and can't try it on my iPad. But if so, that's exciting!

    Yes. As long as you turned off host sync. Remember that there are quantize settings in LK that influence when a clip plays back. But clips start from the beginning unless there is a bug...in which it should get reported.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @espiegel123 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mbncp said:

    @cem_olcay said:

    @mbncp said:
    What would be really nice is a gate mode, pressing a key (converted to CC10) it would play a clip immediately (from the beginning) and loop as long as I hold that key (sending CC10 = 0 or just some empty clip when done).

    You can actually achieve that with a simple MIDI mapper/transformer app or a Mozaic script :smile:

    Yes, but right now the clips follow the timeline position, to be more accurate I would love an option that when triggering CC10 the clip would always play from the beginning, a bit like a sampler.
    Neither Drambo or LK can do that (afaik), so it would be neat. Now I can understand that it could be too much work to implement, just an idea :)

    LK’s clips can be triggered by MIDI events.

    Yes, but unless I’m missing something, it will only start at the end of a bar.
    I’m looking for something like Drambo’s Flexi, with all the cool modes and options, but for MIDI, plus some extra ideas à la @lukesleepwalker
    Will see how far I can go with Mozaic :#

    When you trigger an LK clip, it starts playing from the clip’s beginning.

    Even when the host transport is off? I'm away from home and can't try it on my iPad. But if so, that's exciting!

    Yes. As long as you turned off host sync. Remember that there are quantize settings in LK that influence when a clip plays back. But clips start from the beginning unless there is a bug...in which it should get reported.

    Of course! I'm sure I had the quantize settings wrong when I tried this. Thanks for the tip.

  • mbncpmbncp

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    Of course! I'm sure I had the quantize settings wrong when I tried this. Thanks for the tip.

    Same here. That's great, thanks @espiegel123

    Only thing to watch for is when adding a new track, as it will screw your clip key mappings, a known bug

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker
    edited March 2021

    @espiegel123 Got home and had a chance to play with LK after turning off quantization and this works absolutely perfectly for my use case. Thanks a ton for the excellent tip!

  • horsetrainerhorsetrainer

    My latest Loopbud experiment.
    I think I'm getting better with it.

  • HalftoneHalftone

    @cem_olcay enjoying Loopbud. One feature request - you know how you can tap at the top to loop a bar - it would be nice if you could drag over and select a couple or more bars.

  • cem_olcaycem_olcay

    @Halftone said:
    @cem_olcay enjoying Loopbud. One feature request - you know how you can tap at the top to loop a bar - it would be nice if you could drag over and select a couple or more bars.

    or you can slower the clock speed quickly and achieve that effect? :smiley:
    (x0.25 means 4 times slower clock speed if you press the clock button on the top right side :)

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @cem_olcay said:

    @Halftone said:
    @cem_olcay enjoying Loopbud. One feature request - you know how you can tap at the top to loop a bar - it would be nice if you could drag over and select a couple or more bars.

    or you can slower the clock speed quickly and achieve that effect? :smiley:
    (x0.25 means 4 times slower clock speed if you press the clock button on the top right side :)

    Hi Cem, I don't think he is asking about speed changes, just about repeating a bar rather than the whole loop, no?

  • HalftoneHalftone

    @Gavinski said:

    @cem_olcay said:

    @Halftone said:
    @cem_olcay enjoying Loopbud. One feature request - you know how you can tap at the top to loop a bar - it would be nice if you could drag over and select a couple or more bars.

    or you can slower the clock speed quickly and achieve that effect? :smiley:
    (x0.25 means 4 times slower clock speed if you press the clock button on the top right side :)

    Hi Cem, I don't think he is asking about speed changes, just about repeating a bar rather than the whole loop, no?

    Right. Although I’ve been having fun changing speeds - the notes will play slower or faster. But yeah - be nice to select bars 6-7 to loop out of an 8 bar pattern. Then be able to touch and drag over say bars 2-3 and have them loop. Right now it appears you can only select one bar for that

  • horsetrainerhorsetrainer
    edited March 2021

    +1 for selecting and looping multiple bars.
    It would also make Loopbud a more effective composing tool.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited March 2021

    @horsetrainer said:
    +1 for selecting and looping multiple bars.
    It would also make Loopbud a more effective composing tool.

    +1

  • cem_olcaycem_olcay
    edited March 2021

    @Halftone said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @cem_olcay said:

    @Halftone said:
    @cem_olcay enjoying Loopbud. One feature request - you know how you can tap at the top to loop a bar - it would be nice if you could drag over and select a couple or more bars.

    or you can slower the clock speed quickly and achieve that effect? :smiley:
    (x0.25 means 4 times slower clock speed if you press the clock button on the top right side :)

    Hi Cem, I don't think he is asking about speed changes, just about repeating a bar rather than the whole loop, no?

    Right. Although I’ve been having fun changing speeds - the notes will play slower or faster. But yeah - be nice to select bars 6-7 to loop out of an 8 bar pattern. Then be able to touch and drag over say bars 2-3 and have them loop. Right now it appears you can only select one bar for that

    Oh I understand. If I find a clever way to do it I'll add it, but otherwise it would "complicate" things and I want to keep this extremely simple, that's the whole point of this app, I want to keep it as the easiest looper in the world!

    BUT I think exposing the bars as AU parameters would help you a lot for achieving a simple effect (with a CC sequencer like StepBud you can sequence the focused-bars) 👍

  • aleyasaleyas

    @cem_olcay said:
    BUT I think exposing the bars as AU parameters would help you a lot for achieving a simple effect (with a CC sequencer like StepBud you can sequence the focused-bars) 👍

    This would be extremely fun. It’s something I’m already doing as a performance method manually, so being able to automate the process would be excellent.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker
    edited March 2021

    @aleyas said:

    @cem_olcay said:
    BUT I think exposing the bars as AU parameters would help you a lot for achieving a simple effect (with a CC sequencer like StepBud you can sequence the focused-bars) 👍

    This would be extremely fun. It’s something I’m already doing as a performance method manually, so being able to automate the process would be excellent.

    Fascinating, can you make a video or explain in more detail? I’m having trouble picturing this.

    @cem_olcay The AU params for bars would work great in my workflow too. Thx for considering it.

  • aleyasaleyas

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @aleyas said:

    @cem_olcay said:
    BUT I think exposing the bars as AU parameters would help you a lot for achieving a simple effect (with a CC sequencer like StepBud you can sequence the focused-bars) 👍

    This would be extremely fun. It’s something I’m already doing as a performance method manually, so being able to automate the process would be excellent.

    Fascinating, can you make a video or explain in more detail? I’m having trouble picturing this.

    @cem_olcay The AU params for bars would work great in my workflow too. Thx for considering it.

    Sure man, I'll make a quick video either tonight or tomorrow. I've been meaning to make a demo on LoopBud anyway, so this will be a good excuse.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @aleyas said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @aleyas said:

    @cem_olcay said:
    BUT I think exposing the bars as AU parameters would help you a lot for achieving a simple effect (with a CC sequencer like StepBud you can sequence the focused-bars) 👍

    This would be extremely fun. It’s something I’m already doing as a performance method manually, so being able to automate the process would be excellent.

    Fascinating, can you make a video or explain in more detail? I’m having trouble picturing this.

    @cem_olcay The AU params for bars would work great in my workflow too. Thx for considering it.

    Sure man, I'll make a quick video either tonight or tomorrow. I've been meaning to make a demo on LoopBud anyway, so this will be a good excuse.

    Much obliged, capn

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited March 2021

    Hi @cem_olcay!
    Can you add the option to change pattern at loop end (like Ampify Launchpad does)? That way we can pattern change without the challenge of trying to change a loop trying to change the pattern on time, not cutting off the previous loop. This will be especially useful during live performances and jamming. You could add it as a toggle switch next to the Mode button, maybe call it Pattern Lock.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    New update out changing focus bars via AU parameters.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    Another AU parameter, which would be helpful, would creating a new pattern. This way it would be fast to record patterns on the fly.

  • cem_olcaycem_olcay

    Also, the new update queued up! :blush:

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @cem_olcay said:
    Also, the new update queued up! :blush:

    Bam!!! On cycle, yes!

  • auxmuxauxmux
    edited March 2021

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @cem_olcay said:
    Also, the new update queued up! :blush:

    Bam!!! On cycle, yes!

    Oh, nice, is it possible to have repeat counts as well? This would be great in StepBud too @cem_olcay

  • HalftoneHalftone

    I’m having trouble figuring out how to set up pattern changes using midi cc. Can someone give a walk though using Rozetta or Atom perhaps? Setting up in AUM?

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited March 2021

    @Halftone said:
    I’m having trouble figuring out how to set up pattern changes using midi cc. Can someone give a walk though using Rozetta or Atom perhaps? Setting up in AUM?

    An example of a CC value is a value of turning a knob or moving a fader/slider. Each pattern in LoopBud is associated with a value for whichever CC you chose, LoopBud defaults to CC10. For example, CC10: value 2 triggers pattern 2, so if you assign CC10 to a knob then turned it to value 2, pattern 2 would start, turn to value 4 then pattern 4 would start.

    I’ve been using my Launchpad Mini pads to trigger patterns since Novation Components allows CC values to be assigned to pads.

    Make sense?

  • horsetrainerhorsetrainer
    edited March 2021

    @cem_olcay said:
    Also, the new update queued up! :blush:

    Cool! A song mode! :)

    Would it be very difficult to make a way to tap on a pattern while in the song mode, and have that one pattern loop until tapped again? I think that would be an incredibly intuitive way for recording songs, Because you could quickly build up a song one pattern at a time. Audition the entire song. Then focus on editing patterns as needed as the whole App continues to run in record mode.

    Edit: Maybe even make a new App called "SongBud"?

    Basically use Loopbud as a template, and add features more aligned with composing entire songs, rather than loops. I'd pay another $4.99 for that. :)

    SongBud would have the ability to use the same recording methods of Loopbud. But be able to select and loop record into multiple bars in a pattern, and select and loop any pattern for recording into while in song mode.

  • cem_olcaycem_olcay

    The new update v1.6 is live! This version allows you to perform with pitchbend and mod wheels (and other CC messages) while looping. They are not recorded but they were blocked before, so now LoopBud bypass that information to the audio app it connected to, allows you to perform live. Also, fixes the MIDI in/out connection bug on the standalone version.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Can Drambo route the midi out. I use Drambo to switch output by track basis. Does it rewrite on a loop basis. I were going to say, whenever you press a key but you would only end up with a note everytime lol. I guess just for live. Could write to Drambo sequencer ( not use loopbud ) but not sure if theres anything in Drambo to get rid of sequence. Theres writing on a multi pattern basis, which will be good if I write everything on a multi pattern basis but maybe loopbud will be good for that synth that isnt euclidean or just a chord/note/sequencer here or there for tracks on made with one pattern?

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited April 2021

    If theres a way to add probabilty just with a knob turn. That would be great. For live I guess it can help to not always have to be live.

    Probabilty and recordable transpose would be good for a bass synth.

    Dont think theres any sequencers that re-record to sequencer ( even Drambo )

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