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spül dir mal den kopf durch
noch mehr wage Vermutungen? nein?
dann jetzt weiter im text
ich bin raus
(he knows what i am talking about)
i would be happy with iaa if there was a non timeline based host but there isn't 1
i can't listen to the very same stuff over and over again
and i don't want to move pixels around in a timeline, it bores the hell out of me.
i like to create options and see where it takes me, and if you can't imagine that this can create very complex structures then thats your lack of imagination, lol
Audioshare is a non timeline based host, it's just an IAA host and a record button.
A host doesn't have to have timeline integration, it can just record the output of the audio unit like audiobus. Devs choice
@dreamless
i guess ab2 will have to do for the time being
i know
@skoptic
thx, but thats not what i am searching for
im more looking for something like ableton live or bigwig
@dreamless said:
That is awesome to hear. I had been hoping that what you've said was the case, but I didn't dare to think it was.
I just wish Apple would not take so long in between updates. IAA workarounds are a drag...
They sound like timeline based but loopers to me? I don't think either method (traditional timeline or Live loop building) is better or worse, modern or yesteryear. Both can be incredibly powerful in the right creative hands.
If I see something like Amon Tobin's ISAM coming out through a trad timeline DAW....it's modern enough for me.
meh - timeline based is very very old school, because there was no other way to do it
i want to make live music and not move pixels and then press play - i want to have fun
and now btt
Well, it used to be a much nicer atmosphere in his forum, when everybody did let everybody else have their own way and opinion, while sharing their own. Me, I also like to play with the possibilities already there, and I don't care too much for timeline-precision etc. ..., the interesting thing for me though will always be, to hear all those different opinions concerning styles in working, and futurewishes from very much different people. this accumulating seriousness and anger sadly starts driving me away from participating too much anymore. If possible, EVERYONE please stay on the polite track of sharing, instead of telling everyone else, why all has to be the way one likes to do it themselves..., really: meeeeh
thanks for all the nice and interesting/interested comments though!,
cheers, twobeers
@lala said:
I do,unfortunately.He is really the idiot he seems to be.Excuse my "sharp tongue" but i guess it's easy for you to deal with it.if not,well that's not my problem
Regarding IAA sync, there is actually two ways for a host to send sync and timing to the node:
One sends tempo and beat position. The beat position is floating point, so it can tell exactly where it is "right now". (Beats never happens on buffer cycle boundaries). This is the preferred way for musical synchronization.
The other sends sample position, which is good for non-musical synchronization.
Both methods allows starting from anywhere in a song/timeline (if it makes sense for the node. Currently, SECTOR always starts from the beginning, since the path leading up to "now" is swirling through time-warped random chaos and thus hard to "fast forward"
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Problem is, some hosts implement one and some the other, and some none of them! And here's an interesting fact: At least last time I investigated it, Apple's own Garageband does not send any of the above! Only start/stop.
However, IAA sync is sample accurate if both hosts and nodes implements it right, so I guess it's all just about getting devs understanding it. Perhaps someone should write a really good tutorial with example code..
'Perhaps someone should write a really good tutorial with example code..'
Any volunteers?
I suggested at some point to @Michael and/or @Sebastian to implement an Audiobus specific midi clock as AB often feels like a host program. I remember the response was positive but something along the lines 'we've been thinking about it'. This was before the ab2 update so the priorities may have changed. I wonder if it would be possible to implement the option 1. from @j_liljedahl last comment and whatever apps within audiobus connecting up automatically?
Hope this will be the next...
Syncing on iOS its one of the thing which makes drves me crazy sometimes...
i still do manuell syncing, cause, the sync is often not usefull or far away from "groovy" :-)
it try sector with Drumjam yesterday and it wasnt "groovy" ;-(
& its not possible to slave sector,
right?
i don't give a fuck what ppl think of me or my opinions, i am not here to socialize,
im here to get things going, that's the only thing that interests me
so just cut the crap it doesn't touch me anyway
@lala
It's a good thing we don't care about your opinions either especially when they are expressed so rudely.
Troll much?
If you're here to get things going then getting along with ppl on this forum may be the right thing to do. You're just a guy who thinks that being nice to others is uncool. You'll either grow out of it or end up being very lonely or surrounded by others like you neither of which sounds like a great life choice to me.
...unless you only do it on the net because you know you can get away with it. Nice.
Getting back on topic...
Last night @evilbird posted the following: http://www.birdsoundmusic.com/blog/
So I took a chance on MIDIbus (like he said, it's only $3) and I've been pleasantly surprised at how well it works with sending transport signal and clock to several apps. (Please note that I did not run extensive tests with the quality of the clock signal, just whether the other apps started/stopped and used the tempo that MIDIbus was sending). It seems to be the solution for MIDI start/stop and clock that Audiobus has been for audio.
I only had time on my commute in to test things, but here is what I've found so far:
Apps that will start/stop using MIDIbus:
Auria
Thesys
Effectrix
Funkbox
DM1
Apps that will not start/stop using MIDIbus:
Cubasis
Sector
So the bottom line is, YES it's another app you have to run, and YES it's not on the bus (going to ping dev about that) but it's quite nice to be able to hit start on one app and have the others go go go. For $3, it's highly recommended...at least until IAA is implemented in all apps and Apple fixes it.
Sector is not set up to receive clock (slave) only send it (master) so that's why it doesn't work with midibus
@yowza said:
yup. and i already harassed jonatan about it.
Lala, I agree with most of your opinions about about IAA, MIDI clock sync, etc. My music creation style is probably closer to yours than it is to many people on the forum who are using Auria, etc.
But your delivery is not really helping get the message across- it just makes people tune out what are valid points....
If ppl dismiss valid arguments because they dont like the way i express myself then they are just idiots
i cant help that.
Oh well, I tried....
:-)
Who 's the idiot?
@lala said:
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I can assure you your participation in this forum is only valid if you can learn to express yourself in a way that is respectful of the other participants. This is the only time I'll address a post from you that has anything less than utter respect for those around you. Friends, please do the same.
carry on
I find it very frustrating that some ppl do not understand how flexible audiobus is, all they want is what they are used to from the desktop ...
@papertiger said:
I find it very frustrating that some ppl aren't flexible enough to realize that iPads/Audiobus can be used in lots of different ways and they are all valid.
Why do iOS apps have to only be used one way and if people want to use them differently than you, why do you have to be so rude about it?
If you all are interested in discussing lala's issues and/or lala in general, could you please move it to another thread devoted to that topic rather than cluttering up this thread? It would be much appreciated.
thank you.