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This was why I was confused when you had to set a length limit for recording. I guess the relevant word is "build".
For the kind of stuff I’m doing at present, launching little clips is of limited use. I thought I’d bought a MIDI recorder (with a load of other stuff as well, obviously). I’m hoping the workarounds Blueveek posted earlier will help a lot (and for which I’m extremely grateful). Haven’t had chance to try them yet. I’m using AUM plus plugins to move away from being entirely grid based and into something more fluid, so constructing lots of fiddly little bits and figuring out how to trigger them all is pretty much the antithesis of what I’m currently about. Too much head involved.
For clarity, I’m not dissing Atom in any way (or the way anyone else works), I just wish it had been a bit clearer from the start that it wouldn’t be a particularly good fit for how I want to use it. I think I had more of a preconceived notion of what a piano roll is for, and clip launching wasn’t it. For short repeating sequences, a step sequencer would be a more obvious solution.
The ‘record until you stop’ is needed if an Atom 2 instance is used to record all the clip launches during a performance…
Since Atom 2 has no real comeptition if timing is important it’s something i feel should be added.
Unless Atom 2 allocates memory when changing the clip-lenght I can’t see a valid reason why the lenght has to be limited in advance.
The only thing I’ve noticed on my ancient iPad Air 2 is that screen refreshes grind to almost a halt with super long multi-track files in one instance when fully zoomed out.
Maybe it needs more optimisation?
In the good old Amiga times there was a procedure demo peeps used to check wether an object is visible or not before starting to blit the objects to save render time. Maybe Atom 2 already does this?
Anyways I’m quite pleased with the way Atom 2 works since I mostly draw in the stuff anyway.
Cheers!
So here's a workflow that I use quite a bit:
From that point I may split the clip into multiple clips, create variants, etc (which ultimately will probably result in me having 4-8 bar long clips). But that's often not where I start. Currently this is not a workflow that Atom supports very well, primarily because you have to decide the length in advance.
I get not everyone plays an instrument, but for those of us who do having to determine what the length of something will be in advance is not really how we work.
So I heard this records MPE now? Would I be able to record MPE data from Animoog into it and then have it played back exactly, possibly quantized? And how would this be accomplished? Audiobus?
I’ve found Animoog to be rather flaky lately, but in theory...
Note - I haven’t tested this myself, but in theory it should work. I don’t have the MIDI add-on for Animoog... and I (personally) hate working with IAA plugins. Good luck
You can build anything with Legos. That doesn't mean it's not meticulous work. It also doesn't mean it's not a creative process.
To wrap up: I'm not deaf to this feature request or this particular workflow. I'm carefully considering how it fits into Atom's design.
It seems to work just fine for this -- my test was quick though. So, it is possible I overlooked something. But it seemed to work.
Thank you both!
@db909
I just tried it myself and Animoog works perfectly. Atom recorded everything.
Plus I was very happy to discover how amazingly well the velocity sensitive pads of my Launchpad Pro MK3 play with all of this MPE stuff. The SWAM Sax in GeoShred is fun too! Regular taps on the pads for sexy sax sounds and lean into it a little harder to make it growl! OMG super fun!!! And yes, Atom 2 records it ALL!
@blueveek truly has a masterpiece here! I would sit and play with this all day long if they’d let me!
Woah, uhmmm I don’t know what happened, but GeoShred was working. Now it’s not. Giving me the “you must use an mpe blah blah blah” message. Any idea what changed? Because I swear it was working perfectly. I think maybe the beta update that just came out? @blueveek
Edit: SWAM Brass is still working perfectly.
Oh,I guess I should mention that I’m talking about the launchpad.
GeoShred onscreen works perfectly fine with atom and records everything!
GeoSwam requires MPE. So, you need to send notes to GeoShred on midi channel 2 not channel 1.
Couldn’t check this thread for quite a while! So many updates meanwhile. Wow!!! But, how do I catch up on all the nuances. ☹️
Is there a way to select and change the channel of an inputted note? I can only find how to write new notes in on a new channel.
Also, is it possible to solo view or hide the different channels like how layers works?
Would love to see this functionality added !!
When recording or with step inputting from an external source, make sure that source is emitting on the channel you need, I assume you're using AUM. To change which channel AUM's keyboard outputs on, tap on the wrench on the lower right, and select the appropriate channel. If you're not using AUM, consult your host's manual.
When manually entering notes in Atom, long press on the 'add' button and pick your channel there.
If you want to hide notes on other MIDI channels on the same track (i.e. in the same clip), this isn't yet supported. One thing that does help for now is using the "MIDI Channel Colors" style for easier viewing.
I am sorry to ask…. I have looked and looked but cant find the answer. If I want to record lets say 32 bars of midi…. Can I do that without setting the bars to that first? Can ATOM2 just record what ever you want without setting the bar length?
No worries, it's been discussed ad-nauseam. In short: no. For now, make a preset once, quickly load it later every time you want to do this.
Thank you. I'm using Audiobus and I did find that 'add' button setting. I'm sending in multi channel MIDI through a DIN cable from another module and this is being received fine. Is there any way to change a note to a different channel though, after inputting/recording?
Ok cool. That's a feature request then
Thank you.
Not yet. Atom is mostly concerned with recording MPE data when it comes to multiple channels, and there's not much use for changing per-note-channels after the fact in that case. It's a relatively simple thing to implement though, so I'm curious, what's the use case?
ad-nauseam.
Well that leaves a sour taste. If you want to be a customer of an app whose developer finds you tiresome and annoying go ahead. I'm semi regretting I paid full price for this when I was entitled to an upgrade, theoretically.
Actually, no I'm not. It's an incredible app, the developer is amazingly skilled and hard working, and all iOS apps are really cheap when you compare with desktop. But you can't trial them so you end up buying 10 apps and finding out none of them do quite what you want.
@onerez If your idea of a piano roll is something that happily accommodates clips with lengths in double digits, Atom may not be for you, and you may be told you're doing it wrong. I've had major unresolved issues with longer clips slowing the interface to a crawl in some situations. But still I'm certain I'll find great uses for it in other situations. It's a very slick app but might not work well if you're into ... well, 'songs', i guess. Or other long form things.
If you're after recording into an clip that's not time limited, it's easy with Helium, but the app is pretty clunky after the slickness of atom. It has pretty great song arranging functions, but has other ridiculous limitations. Mainly, there's no swing option and even worse, no recording without quantisation.
The iOS way is ... buy all the apps, hopefully there'll be some that do what you want.
I can be tired of answering or engaging in certain topics, without being annoyed at the people bringing them up.
Please add better support for iPad Magic Keyboard / its mouse (and likely other external input devices). I’d like to be able to switch between selecting and adding notes by left vs right clicking, or by holding a modifier key such as ctrl or alt, or by double clicking (and double clicking and holding then dragging) as Ableton does. Apple Pencil should allow switching between the two by double tapping the pencil to toggle between last two inputs.
This act is so common in daily workflows, that it’s essential to have a quick way to toggle it / input it without having to move between a set of buttons repeatedly.
Long press and drag will automatically start making a marquee selection, no matter what input mode you're in (it's covered on the second page of the manual, along with all of the other gestures). Is that sufficient, or do you prefer double-click and drag instead? I feel like long press and drag is a more common iOS idiom, so I'd prefer to keep that as is, but I'm curious about your thoughts on that.
Also bringing this ability to the Apple Pencil would indeed be sweet, and I love the idea. I think it can only work with Pencil 2, but DM me your TestFlight email (if interested in working on this together) and I'll look into adding it to the next version.
Is there a way to use Atom 2 using only the mouse? Like currently the only crucial thing that the mouse can’t do is scroll sideways or am I wrong? Pinching to zoom in or out is another good-to-have too.
Yes, mouse should work reasonably well already, with the caveats you've mentioned. If you have a Magic Trackpad, both of those will work exactly as you'd expect. But classic mouse support is only following the iOS guidelines for now, which I know aren't really that well suited for the kinds of tasks Atom enables. Namely: if your mouse has only a single scroll wheel, then that wheel will scroll vertically, and, as you've figured out, there's no way to zoom in/out (except for clicking on the fit/fill buttons in the top right). I think it would be good to support these interactions at some point too.
If you have a keyboard, shift + mouse wheel will scroll horizontally as well.
Do the config files allow the setting of the default clip length of new clips?
Awesome! Many thanks.
Any chance for someone to make a Roli Lightpad app(s)/script(s) for it? I’d pay