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Gotcha. Thx
My point is just that if devs were actually paying for the time and expertise involved in a good youtube review, it would come out at a lot a lot more than what it costs them to give a a few codes. Of course both sides rely in the other, but it doesn't change that fact.
Edit: and let's not loose sight of the main point I was making. Thaty reviews can be trusted. I am human, we are all prone to bias and no one is totally objective, I wouldn't claim to be as that would show an utterly naive understanding of how our minds work, we're not robots. But I have a decent degree of integrity and independence. That's the only point I want to make.
Further edit: what got my hackles up earlier was Ashh' s lack of appreciation of understanding in what is involved in a channel like mine. If I add up the amount of income from PayPal and YouTube for what has largely been a full time job over the past year, we are talking an income of about 1 or 2 dollars an hour, I'm not even joking. I am taking a huge risk in trying to do this full steam, and have anxiety related to whether I am insane for trying and should pack the whole thing in. So you'll have to forgive me for getting a bit defensive from time to time.
“Boohoo. Your YouTube channel isn’t exactly how I want it.”
Yeah man, jeez, you can't please all the people all the time. For example I have had people attack me in the comments section for being what they felt was too critical of a dev. They didn't like the fact that I pointed out bugs, they think I am making the dev look bad etc. There's always going to be this problem, I try to navigate it as best I can and think I'm doing a pretty damn fine job of it.
Nope. Still nothin’ about a new sugarbytes app
Lol, guys, you have a long wait ahead of you for that, so seriously just focus on other things for now, it's not dropping that soon
Please just let us know… is it a game changer!?!?!??
Hahaha. Where's my 'bloody knife' emoji.
I really appreciate your in depth videos, but I would really like it too if you could do short versions to go with them - some apps have passed me by as I’ve failed to carve out the time to watch a long video to understand what they do (perhaps suggesting I didn’t actually need them, but that’s a whole other philosophical discussion).
A short ‘this is what it does’ demo would tell me then if it’s worth buying the app and then, after an initial play, watch the longer video to get to grips with it at a deeper level. I know it’s more work, but it would effectively be advertising for your own channel. Any chance of something like that? I know it’s not for you to make promos for developers, but after seeing some of the recent ones I’d rather avoid them and come straight to you.
Hi Steve, this is maybe something I will consider for when I start a patreon. For various reasons I would be unlikely to do that for youtube. In the meantime, remember that youtube does have a x2 speed function, and that my vids have timestamps so you can skip around and find the relevant sections 👍
Also, you wouldn't be you if your QUICK walkthroughs would clock in at under 35 minutes...
Concur.
(Super OT Time (all praise the new T))
I imagine that very soon a ton of youtube influencer channels will be pretty irrelevant for a lot of things.
OSes and devices will soon easily have the convenient ability to screeencast and send video posts with complete ease. It will all just be OS / device level communication, like using messenger or group chats, forums etc. Imagine forums like this or discord like apps where people are communicating with video (screencast and cameras, where the viewer can choose and scale whatever view they want) and it all just works without setup or time consuming uploads etc.
To see how an app works just check out the ‘thread’ of people using it, ask questions via video or doodling on top of their video and people reply with no cumbersome uploading, no tags, no editing, no tv like presentation. People will use CG avatar heads of course which will make all this even more comfortable / accessible / safe / fun etc.
What I see now with youtube channels is like a TV hangover with people making title cards, background music and editing etc. basically just extending the Tv immersion they grew up with, playing dress up like they are a personality or star. Sure, whatever, but all that is going to look really dated and silly very soon for simply ‘how to’ or review videos. Instantly archived and retrievable etc. (Again, Just like forums, discord etc) People will grow up comfortable with their cg dog faced avatar showing how they use apps talking to other CG bunny avatars etc etc
This is all right around the corner.
and I imagine the top bunnies will emerge from existing top influencers... same applies, someone who can get the message across... and willing to put in effort...
Ok but for learning how apps work, that isn’t really a concern or even relevant. Just imagine the same sort of nerdy communication we have going on on this forum but with the complete clarity of easy video posts. That’s my point, let the bunnies show their fluffy tails but it has nothing to do with Cubasis 9.
i think it is called streams
My point is once it doesnt take effort there is no need for someone to put in the effort.
Interesting thoughts, and I agree with your distaste for the hangover of the TV personality approach to communicating this stuff, which is why I keep my channel very much about the apps and not about me. There will definitely still be room for experts or tastemakers of some type though
No it isn’t. Think smaller communication bits with back and forth. That is like saying these forums posts are called ‘books’ or ‘essays’.
It is not a distaste so much as how I think they will be seen in the future. I still like sitcoms but I know how they look to the kids.
Yes, experts and tastemakers will be around but for simply getting to know how an app works? If the method of communication on a forum like this were juiced up with easy video uploads that take zero effort? Most people would not need to / bother watching long form videos.
If you have ever used the app Endlesss (awesome music collaboration app) just imagine it being two concurrent video chunks. One being a screencast and the other being the camera. Now imagine it is a thread with the same frequency of posts on a forum like this, someone asks how it is to automate in Cubasis 9 and two minutes later someone posts a clip that is thirty seconds of them automating in Cubasis 9. Etc etc. Same old familiar dynamic but on steroids because it will be super easy to do.
Think of it as something like this but with a better interface and super fast uploads...
Tah dah
I still think the main factor is ‘able / willing’ to do + following your TV analogy - picking a source you ‘trust’...
🤷♂️ maybe...
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We are able to post text on this forum right? So what is the difference if on a forum like this you...
1.) Type a blurb ‘This is how you automate in Cubasis 9’
2.) press a button, boom, you are screencasting both camera and screen into your post, easy as typing, if not easier (and for those who are shy, they now look like Groot).
3.) hop to Cubasis 9, do your thang, talk etc
4.) press post (Total time less than 1:00 or so), same as text but far more informative
The next person does it too etc etc... next gen communication.
This will be no different than playing Fortnite or COD with respect to ‘able / willing’ but it will be simple hypercharged efficient community communication on any subject. Sure there will still be long form streamers who do their thing and entertain as personalities but if the goal is simply getting information there will be even less need to sit through a long video to get your specific questions answered quickly and clearly.
I don't think this will more likely increase noise without significantly increasing quality. Much more of the issue of good tutorials and manuals is about planning and execution than ease of uploading/distributing. Sometimes making posting easier results in a lower signal to noise ratio. Look at this forum. There is a lot of great information that remains buried and not easily retrievable because it is drowned out by noise.
(That information would be much more accessible and findable with no more than one to three minutes of time on the part of some forum members -- by moving it to the wiki -- but people don't like to be taken out of the flow. So, we have an endless posting and losing of great information -- the same will happen with spontaneous stream/posting -- lots of good stuff posted never to be found again)
It certainly won’t be without it’s noise and people gaming the system. i am not saying that people won’t still have to curate and collect (like with Pinterest for images or playlists for Youtube). I mean even YouTube suffers from this to an extent too right?
My point ultimately isn’t about any sort of signal to noise ratio as it is simply about collaborative communication on a subject dwarfing singular solo efforts and a finite canned video upload form. There will be all manner of Up voting and down voting and algorithms etc. at play still for better or worse
For more authoritative or expert views with this sort of next generation video roundtable communication i could see enthusiasts and experts forming a sort of Corridor Crew (neat cg/vfx yt channel) where they simply go back-and-forth describing the app and what it does in a conversational style (forum/comments section hybrid) and banging out a thread where they are the central presenters and people have a separate track for public questions and comments. I mean all of this stuff is hovering about in fragments and bits already. It will just coalesce into to a form where it is clearly far less practical for a single person to have to present it all by themselves. A group of entgusiast keeners will be able to bang out a group round table sequence of posts in a weekend, on the side while using the app anyway, while the solo youtube video gramps is grinding away editing bumpers and backing tracks etc.
By the way I am talking 10-15 years from now which is going to fly by.
I agree with Ed. It's why information is not the same as wisdom. There's a lot of stuff on the Internet, the important thing is being able to join the dots. But still, will he interesting to see how things develop
What about my Corridor Crew example? These guys using a next gen screen share back-and-forth chatting over a day?
In certain cases, this might make a difference. But we can see in people's general disinterest in contributing or curating the wiki here that the primary gating factor is people willing to do a little work -- there are tools readily available here on abforum to make the information more productive -- but maybe 10 people (MAYBE) are willing to participate in that. I don't see how easier streaming results in either higher quality or findability.
IMO, people aren't very motivated to help the community beyond sharing a spontaneous thought and throwing it into the void.