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Helium AUv3 MIDI Sequencer by 4Pockets - Released

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  • Is there an option to turn on the visibility of the grid?
    I'm only 1/4 note vertical grid lines even when setting the grid to 1/32.

  • I’d like to sequence Korg Gadget from Helium in slide over mode. How do I make the midi connection? I’ve done it with Fugue Machine and the connection is automatic. Note: I’m running Helium as a stand-alone app to get the slide over function.

  • Is anybody copying and pasting remotely? It seems there’s no way of achieving this, but I hope to be wrong.

  • Dragging a note duration changes the velocity. This is a wierd bug.

  • @kc2dpt said:
    Dragging a note duration changes the velocity. This is a wierd bug.

    There is an option to disable what I think you are seeing in Settings, Velocity Edit On/Off. This stops the velocity changing as you drag the duration of a note.

  • why would anyone want this on? why would I want changing note duration to change velocity? and it doesn’t change linearly either; if I drag the duration back and forth, the velocity gets lower and lower.

  • I want it on. I don’t have chubby fingers.

  • What does chubby fingers have to do with anything?
    And I'm still wondering: why would anyone want duration and velocity to change together?
    And why would you want it to change more in one direction than in the other?
    Really seems like a bug and not a feature.

  • @kc2dpt said:
    What does chubby fingers have to do with anything?
    And I'm still wondering: why would anyone want duration and velocity to change together?
    And why would you want it to change more in one direction than in the other?
    Really seems like a bug and not a feature.

    That's how it works in Ableton, except it also does that when you first draw the note. The idea is that you can set both the length and velocity with one "tap and drag" motion instead of two. I like this feature. I wish Reaper had it.

  • @kc2dpt said:

    why would anyone want duration and velocity to change together?

    I use it all the time. It’s so I can change the velocity and the duration together at the same time. A really great feature.

  • @Will said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @zah said:
    In the video - 15m it says there is a manual...where could I find this manual?

    His manuals are always in-app, so you can't find it yet as the app is not yet available, unfortunately

    Bummer. Really wish folks could/would publish manuals to their websites or something. When you want to reference both the app and the manual at the same time, in-app manuals are a bummer.

    I think, the idea of in-app manuals is great. But a download link is still important, because a full-text search is not possible in the app or simply because it can help with the purchase decision.

    So, I'm sure someone has the PDF in his Dropbox, right? :*

  • While Helium has some great features, the basic timeline editing is too tedious for me, The color schemes are still not easy to see, the grid doesn't show through, there are no grid markers for a selection ... LK, Atom2 and Xequence are much better in this regard. I wonder why the developer does not optimize these basics ...

  • edited December 2022

    I think it’s because Paul is the only developer, and he has many apps on the store, and he seems to perpetually make and release new apps.
    If you reach via FB, he will eventually respond. I had a couple requests, and the one which was easy to implement he did implement it and put it out in a recent release a couple months ago.

    I try avoiding editing at all costs, so I know what you mean. For me, it makes for a killer live MIDI looper and even live composing and arranging tool, and it’s all thanks to the RTC. However, I spent weeks building my template that way. It is a complicated nightmare involving many instances, and I need to work backwards on the time line to avoid stuck notes.

  • Does anyone know if it’s possible to record multiple channels of MIDI in Helium simultaneously like in Atom?

  • edited January 2023

    Yes, but not without setting up multiple instances of helium. So if you plan on editing than it’s obviously a terrible work flow. But I don’t edit midi with that particular setup. Instead I use it as a live midi looper. You also need to spend considerable time making a template so that each instance has identical snap-shot regions. This way one trigger press brings them all to the same point of the time line.

    In conclusion, it can be done but not worth it IMO. Xequence 2 handles this much better, but it’s not an AU nor does it support AU. So if that’s important to you, again, you need to cobble something together using Audiobus + AUM + Xequence + ad nauseum.

    Maybe Zenbeats?

  • edited April 5

    Haven’t seen anything in this thread about my question:

    Does Helium MIDI Sequencer have “Catch Playhead” ?

  • @HolyMoses said:
    Haven’t seen anything in this thread about my question:

    Does Helium MIDI Sequencer have “Catch Playhead” ?

    It does have an "Auto-scroll" feature that will move the grid view to follow the playhead if it reaches the end of the screen, and it will jump to the position of the playhead in the grid. Here's an example: Load it in AUM, and set host sync on in Helium, and "Auto-scroll" on (I believe it is on by default. Hit play on the transport and the grid will move to keep the playhead in view. Fast forward or reverse in AUM by using the transport control and the grid will move to keep the playhead in view. Stop the transport in AUM, manually scroll away from the playhead in helium, and then hit play in the AUM transport - it will jump to the playhead position, which is in sync with AUM. Does that help?

  • @hear_n_know said:

    @Will said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @zah said:
    In the video - 15m it says there is a manual...where could I find this manual?

    His manuals are always in-app, so you can't find it yet as the app is not yet available, unfortunately

    Bummer. Really wish folks could/would publish manuals to their websites or something. When you want to reference both the app and the manual at the same time, in-app manuals are a bummer.

    I think, the idea of in-app manuals is great. But a download link is still important, because a full-text search is not possible in the app or simply because it can help with the purchase decision.

    So, I'm sure someone has the PDF in his Dropbox, right? :*

    This is not the ideal solution, but I've used the select text option from iOS, selected the entire help screen, including pics, and then pasted it into something like Notes, which brings over all of the text and pictures, although the URL links don't convert, but that's a minor issue for me. The formatting loses the line breaks between paragraphs but it's still quite readable, imo.

  • @asturoidu said:
    Is there an option to turn on the visibility of the grid?
    I'm only 1/4 note vertical grid lines even when setting the grid to 1/32.

    It looks like the grid lines below 1/4 only show when you are selecting or editing a note - see the pics below for a examples. In these examples, High Contrast is turned on (which can be done by long pressing on the "Menu" button, and selecting that from the several options that appear).

    Edit note (grid set to 1/32)

    Select multiple notes

  • @EdZAB said:

    @HolyMoses said:
    Haven’t seen anything in this thread about my question:

    Does Helium MIDI Sequencer have “Catch Playhead” ?

    It does have an "Auto-scroll" feature that will move the grid view to follow the playhead if it reaches the end of the screen, and it will jump to the position of the playhead in the grid. Here's an example: Load it in AUM, and set host sync on in Helium, and "Auto-scroll" on (I believe it is on by default. Hit play on the transport and the grid will move to keep the playhead in view. Fast forward or reverse in AUM by using the transport control and the grid will move to keep the playhead in view. Stop the transport in AUM, manually scroll away from the playhead in helium, and then hit play in the AUM transport - it will jump to the playhead position, which is in sync with AUM. Does that help?

    Yeah, thanks!!!

    I missed that settings option…
    The way Helium using “catch playhead” is OK, but, I rather prefer the way Logic Pro acts - there is the playhead still in the middle and the pianoroll moves…
    But, as I said, Heliums way is OK!

  • Next question from me:

    When I import an MIDI-files, Helium MIDI Sequencer doesn’t import tempo?

    Also, some advanced MIDI-files I’ve got has variable tempo in the file - in Logic Pro for iPad the import gets right and there’s an tempotrack with drawing automation…

    Is this something Paul have mentioned to be implemented later?

  • @HolyMoses said:
    Next question from me:

    When I import an MIDI-files, Helium MIDI Sequencer doesn’t import tempo?

    Also, some advanced MIDI-files I’ve got has variable tempo in the file - in Logic Pro for iPad the import gets right and there’s an tempotrack with drawing automation…

    Is this something Paul have mentioned to be implemented later?

    That's interesting. I didn't realize that Helium doesn't pick up the tempo information from MIDI files that contain that info. I have not heard mention of any plans for that feature myself.

  • @EdZAB said:

    @HolyMoses said:
    Next question from me:

    When I import an MIDI-files, Helium MIDI Sequencer doesn’t import tempo?

    Also, some advanced MIDI-files I’ve got has variable tempo in the file - in Logic Pro for iPad the import gets right and there’s an tempotrack with drawing automation…

    Is this something Paul have mentioned to be implemented later?

    That's interesting. I didn't realize that Helium doesn't pick up the tempo information from MIDI files that contain that info. I have not heard mention of any plans for that feature myself.

    I have to correct myself - when I continue to load different MIDI-files with variable tempo, it all of a sudden work as expected… Hmmm…
    Perhaps there were some quirky thing between AUM and Helium concerning Sync…

    I will continue my testing today and see if I could have Helium to play files with variable tempo, not only that Helium recognizing inital tempo…

    I really like Helium MIDI Sequencer - bought Atom v2 when it was released, but, although it has a great arsenal of features I couldn’t stand the lack of “catch playhead” and the fact that is was very laggy when I loaded big MIDI-files…
    Also, the developer of Atom v1 and v2 has abandon this app - he seems to totally disappeared from the software business…?

    Any suggestion on other AUv3 sequencers with great amount of features?

  • @Jökulgil said:
    Am I missing something, didn’t Xequence 2 (@SevenSystems) do everything that Helium does? What sets them apart aside from personal preference and the obvious UI differences? Are they still in the top 5 solutions for midi capture in AUM?

    Xequence v2 isn’t AUv3 as Helium is…

  • @Jökulgil said:
    How many scales are in Helium, I saw a great @sfm video by Leo but it only showed Major and Minor?

    It has Major, minor, modes Dorian-Locrian (including Aeolian), and chromatic.

  • edited April 6

    @Jökulgil said:
    How many scales are in Helium, I saw a great @sfm video by Leo but it only showed Major and Minor?

    There appear to be 9 scales available: Major, Minor, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian, Chromatic, although to be exact, all of these except one are modes of the major scale. Here's a link to the part of one of the 4Pockets videos where it talks about the feature:

    Helium - Scale and Key

    Edit: @CracklePot - you got it, too me to long to hit post, lol

  • @Jökulgil said:

    When I look in the native files app, Helium isn’t in iCloud, just On My iPad, but the only two folders under Helium, Songs and Clips are both empty, so where are the midi files?

    If I load Helium in AUM or Standalone and go to the Media Bay I can clearly see all the midi files are safe and saved but why aren’t they appearing in the Files app?…yes I loaded Helium first in standalone and have also tried a reboot 👍😉

    You may have heard that iOS apps run in a "sandbox", which prevents them from harmfully affecting other apps. That sandbox includes a hidden file structure, similar to what you see on real computers, including programs, libraries, configuration files, and data. The folders appearing in the Files app are extra folders, often just used for import/export of data, though some apps do use them to store content. It is a little tricky for AUv3 modules to access public files, because AUv3 imposes tighter restrictions on the module, but some AUv3 can do that too. It's really up to the app developer to determine how the app interacts with publicly visible files; not much we can do to change it.

  • @uncledave said:

    @Jökulgil said:

    When I look in the native files app, Helium isn’t in iCloud, just On My iPad, but the only two folders under Helium, Songs and Clips are both empty, so where are the midi files?

    If I load Helium in AUM or Standalone and go to the Media Bay I can clearly see all the midi files are safe and saved but why aren’t they appearing in the Files app?…yes I loaded Helium first in standalone and have also tried a reboot 👍😉

    You may have heard that iOS apps run in a "sandbox", which prevents them from harmfully affecting other apps. That sandbox includes a hidden file structure, similar to what you see on real computers, including programs, libraries, configuration files, and data. The folders appearing in the Files app are extra folders, often just used for import/export of data, though some apps do use them to store content. It is a little tricky for AUv3 modules to access public files, because AUv3 imposes tighter restrictions on the module, but some AUv3 can do that too. It's really up to the app developer to determine how the app interacts with publicly visible files; not much we can do to change it.

    @uncledave explained it very nicely. Helium supports slide-over and drag and drop into and out of the Files app, as well as a web interface that can be used to access the Media Bay folders, and of course you can import and export using the buttons within the app too.

    Additionally, regarding the Clips and Songs folders (under Helium), that you mentioned, they do something. If you tap on the icon just to the right of the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen, it brings up an "Import Options" dialog box, and if you select "Import Clips and Songs" it will import anything that is in those folders into the Media Bay folders respectively.

    One thing I have to say about 4Pockets apps is that there are often very cool features that are "under the hood" so to speak, and are probably totally obvious to a brain like Paul, but for someone like me, it takes a little time and effort to find them, although his videos are a big help. But I wouldn't have it any other way. 😊

  • @Jökulgil said:
    Thanks for the explanations. I presume when you use "Import Options" > "Import Clips and Songs" it’s a one off event and doesn’t keep the media bay updated with what’s been added/removed from those folders.

    An iCloud solution to work across devices and stay in sync would be welcomed. I guess this wasn’t the standard approach two years ago but Paul might do it differently today.

    It’s still a great app and will really open up the AUM workflow.

    Yes - that is correct. It will copy in what is in those folders, but it does not perform full synchronization. If you think that iCloud integration is something that you are really interested in, I would recommend reaching out to the developer and expressing what features you would like to see. He's always shown interest in what his audience needs.

  • Pretty big update today and that includes this: "Added Tone Packet support" // "Added a new chord lane which can send midi chords and tone packets on a per track basis"

    Euclidian also gets an "Tone Packet" update ..

    Now, what the hell is "Tone Packet"? 😂😂

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