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The Best Cubasis 3 Update Ever ( Seriously! ) | haQ attaQ
This new update for Cubasis 3 is crazy good.
It comes packed with so many things that we’ve asked for over the years (some of these things we’ve asked for for many years). AUv3 multi I/O support, MIDI to FX slot routing, Side-chaining and even support for MIDI mapping mixer and transport controls. And the best thing about this update ... well it's completely free.
I know there’s a lot of “Cubasis people” in this forum that are so happy right now! 
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Damn, Jakob, you are cute. Always fun to watch how you do it. 👍👍😎
Have you even reading the 'I spoke too soon about Cubasis 3 update' thread Jakob? Tons of complaints, was my impression.
I felt that thread was a "one issue" complaint involving moving a project between Cubasis 2 and Cubasis 3. Cubasis 3 is getting consistent improvements and is still the ONE DAW on IOS
that is closest to the feature set of the usual Desktop products... with the possible exception of GarageBand which I tend to ignore completely since it's treatment of MIDI is like a roach motel. Easy to get in but "you can never leave". (I know there are hacks to work around it but
I respond to manipulation with boycotts... GarageaBand is on my boycott list).
Auria Pro has lost all it's momentum.
NS2 has run out of steam to add the promised audio
Beatmaker lost it's primary developer... according to thread here.
ZenBeats is very loop centric and I didn't get into it.
AUM is for live work but forces a series of workarounds for sync and such. Most workarounds are AUv3 apps like Atom 2, Loopy Pro (which is going to be very useful in 2023).
ApeFilter... is still available and very AUM like. AUM by another Mother.
AudioBus... there are a lot of mothers in the world.
But this year we'll get LogicPro and find that everything you try to move to it breaks it.
Cubasis 2/3 still allows a non-technical musician like @LinearLineman to create 200 tracks and group them into BandCamp products
My favorite Haq quote: "There is a way of doing this where you don't get any crashes."
That's what a truly productive music producer does... finds a way within the constraints of the system to get work done and make/ship art.
Cubasis is troubling but powerful enough to make masterful works. Feed the team that makes it with cash and some job security so Yamaha/Steinberg doesn't cut their funding.
It will only continue to add features and additional stability.
Amplifying troll messages created in the heat of a surprising turn of events is just bad journalism. Seek balance in all things. There is a middle path here.
I respect @samu's knowledge but would never give him a product for a "user quote".
He's usually Cap'n Buzzkill because of some small but essential detail I'd never notice
and just learn to work around anyway.
Work around it and get to work. (I should talk... back to the immediacy of AUM).
Maybe I spoke to soon about Cubasis 3 here - was just the impression I got McD - oh, you have a small typo in your list there. It is ApeMatrix, not ApeFilter!
@McD, that’s almost 400 tracks and 27 albums. All with Cubasis.
Are you even human
@jakoB_haQ I knew you’d love the MIDI to FX feature… had to go back and re-watch your vocoder feature to choose one (DerVoco is it).
I share @jakoB_haQ‘s opinion that this is a totally great update. I instantly turned to Cubasis for my new project. BUT I also think that the release has some serious bugs. I also suffer from the Midi input bug with dropped notes from external Midi and cannot use my hardware sequencer with Cubasis. I think that such a bug should have been found during decent smoke testing of a release candidate. Definitely I have higher expectations to Cubasis than to an app for 9.99 from a developer who works on it in the spare time.
Nonetheless Cubasis is on a good way. The new sidechaining is just great. The performance of the Cubasis multi-core rendering is lifting iOS music making on a new level. The complete re-write of the CB3 code base was a huge effort that probably caused many wanted features to remain on ‚the list‘ for a long time but now they are harvesting the fruit. I expect great things to come.
Oops... that's not a typo... that's a certain sign of dementia.
I'll keep an eye out for it as it progresses further.
But for now I'll return my eye and use stereo vision as I search the forum for additional insights and meanings.
We are one. But like an ameba we split and become 2 "ones" and like an...
(Seriously bored and watching a Charlie Kaufman movie "I'm Thinking of Ending Things").
But everyone should investigate ApeFilter. It's seriously simian. And capable of purifying
cloudy liquids.
Still bored.
Seriously Steinberg...
Fix the gddn*d audio selection bug when opening an audio event in the audio/sample-editor...
(Sorry but my App OCD is driving me nuts, but when a basic audio editing 'thing' has been present since day one from the dawn of Cubasis without a fix is beyond my understanding. Maybe no one actually edits audio in/with Cubasis?!)
When I've chopped an audio-event into two or more parts on the time-line/arranger and open one of the audio-events the whole audio-file is selected in the editor. It would be enough if the audio/sample editor opened with the active audio-events portion selected. (or at least an option to do a 'make a selection based on currently selected audio-event').
This would save time if the main edit is done in the arranger and a selected portion needs to be normalized or reversed etc.
For now we'd have to open the whole fine and 're-select' the portion we've already chopped on the time-line hoping we'll be able to match the precise location because if not the audio-event might get clicks if the selection doesn't match the audio-events start & end.
I know destructive edits create a new file and even here it would be beneficial to make a precise selection as the duplicate file would just be the selection and not a backup of the entire file.
This would also make it super easy to save the selection to media-bay as a new file or process the area (this creating a new file) with our having to 'freeze' the selection and converting it to stereo.
End of Rant but serious...
Just fix it!
Other than that I like Cubasis for what it is but it's there small things that tickle my OCD Nerve really bad...
Cheers, Peace Out!
/Samuel
If your edits are destructive and results in a new file why not copy and then crop the selection straight away? I hope I got you right… I must admit that I’m inexperienced with CB and with audio editing with CB even more because the missing Midi features kept me away from using it.
Why do people write impassioned missives to vendors here? It makes the vendors stay away and rarely gets the right attention. Submit a support request in the usual places for the product.
Maybe mention that you did if they ignore a reply. But the negative details reduce the value of the forum as a meeting place for users with the occasional input from vendors.
A Propellerheads (now Reason) marketing woman posted a request for input here and they never came back due to the dozens of angry replies about the "brain dead" product they shipped on IOS (Reason Compact). Probably made them move on from IOS for a long time.
"We did that." Fixed Reason. We fixed 'em good.
There's a similar attack when Korg gets something wrong and they have dug into IOS in a big way.
Now, Steinberg gets a little "love note". Sorry Lars. We have some intense members that just want everything to work to their needs. Go figure.
@FloRi89, very human, just not very particular.
What are your rough stats on Cubasis 2 vs Cubasis 3.
I think you're first reaction to Cubasis 3 wasn't
positive but now I'll wager you rarely consider going back.
I'm telling your when we get to 4.0 we'll be in DAW heaven... except for @Samu because he
knows every little optimization known to man and wants to see them implemented when they apply. Every vendor has a @Samu. They provide a useful function for the dedicated developer. Clues to achieving perfection.
Some might say @LinearLineman's music is perfection. But they don't know everything there is to know about music. His music is riddled with flaws. Like imperfections in marble.
I feel @Samu's pain. But I take something for it.
I wanted to catch you out with a real typo there (ameba) but it turns out it's a legit, if rarely used, spelling. Damn.
The entitlement is really strong with some. My current benchmark example is the "something doesn't work for me in this update... blabla... how do you justify your employment?" 😶
@Samu, I tried to reproduce your pain but I can't. I find the workflow quite straight forward: I add an audio file from the media bay, I open it and I trim it to my needs. This is still non destructive and you can do that while the project is playing and check if the edits are good. Then I can do other edits - it's still non destructive. I can even copy the edited audio clip and open the copies and the audio editor opens with the edited audio as expected. If I want to persist the edit to disk I can just write it to a new file. For me that's all fine.
I think what you are trying to achieve is to do your trimming just from the arrangement view, right? This is indeed not delivering what you are expecting but in my opinion this also lacks a lot of precision that you actually have when trimming in the editor view. I think you don't lose anything when adjusting your workflow to do trimming in the editor. But I don't want to teach you lessons about your very own workflow.
It did look odd at the moment of writing but the spellchecker accepted it... may first attempt was ameaba and it offered ameba but I guess amoeba is the right answer. But in this case,
we can only be ameba since we are higher life forms. But I'm glad you're checking on my spelling looking for opportunities to help.
The Charlie Kaufman movie is getting quite dark: "I'm Thinking of Ending Things" indeed.
Still there are moments of excellent dialogue about the insanity of modern existence.
The actors are excellent in a production of borderline insanity.
Maybe I should follow this up with Darren Aronofsky's "Mother".
Yepp!
A simple thing like making a rough cut using split to isolate a region in order to 'reverse', 'normalize' or 'save' it.
The problem is that if I make a new audio-region in the arranger using split on an existing recording that 'region' is not selected when opening the audio-editor, instead the whole file is selected and I need to 're-select' the region again and might not accurately match the already created audio-events start & end points...
This is a work-flow I've been using in Logic since I got it many, many years ago.
Do the rough cuts on the time-line, open the audio-file in the editor 'save region as...', done...
I do get the benefits of non-destructive trim but sometimes destructive edits are needed.
That is unless there will be some 'audio event playback options' which allows us to change the play-direction of an audio-event and apply non-destructive normalize (clip gain >100%).
Never mind me, I'm just a geek with OCD tendencies and get easily triggered by small things that no one else cares about.
If/when Apple Drops Logic for iPad it's bye, bye Cubasis and I will never look at it again...
Take Care,
Sorry @jakoB_haQ for polluting your thread with unneeded drama.
It's a great video as usual: useful, entertaining and well crafted.
The details on side-chaining it's pitfalls will be a reference worth revisiting when I try
side-chaining using the wonderful FabFilter's Pro-C or Magic Death Eye Compressor (can't remember if it's mono or stereo that supports it).
Re audio editing, my understanding is like @krassmann’s. Splits and changes in clip length on the arrangement timeline are non destructive, edits in the editor are destructive. I don’t mind that flow. But like @Samu after changing audio on the timeline I expect some visual cue in the editor that an edit has been made and there is none.
Thank You, this is what I mean in other words
The 'ruler' in the Audio Editor could show the 'ranges' used by the Audio Events and tapping on a range could select it.
No more thread pollution, need to watch my BP, this is not good for my health...
No I hadn’t seen that thread. Thanks for the tip. I’ll have a read In it.
Don’t worry about it. All feedback is welcome and after talking to Lars over at Steinberg, well I know that they’re taking in all critique. If people didn’t care about this they wouldn’t say anything. We only speak up because we care.
Great choice! DerVoco sounds really good, kinda like an ol’ school MOOG vocoder.
Haha, thank you!
Would also like to hear some opinions on cubasis 2 vs 3 and if its a big upgrade. Thanks
What's the secret stuff you're taking?
I've tried the 'ignore the issues pills' but when things do not compute it causes stack overflow error.
Sorry for that...
I'm having a rough patch and get irritated. I'm sure I then use that minor irritation as
an opportunity to project some of my current pain outwards. Then I feel like shit and
the cycle continues.
Hopefully, tomorrow I will get some good news to help me get out of this hole.
These apps are obviously very important to you and you have a passion for quality design
and implementation. @jakoB_haQ says @Lars is OK with complaints and takes them back to the team... of course, they then add them to a massive list. Waiting just comes with the
addiction.
We're all waiting/hoping for something. I'm hoping for some good news that's not remotely related to IOS.
@McD, two very good disturbing movies in a row ! I fear for your sanity !