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Mine were in music, English and computer science. And thus spake Zoroaster: "you belong in ABF"... The language begs indifference, since it tries to be all things to everyone. I'll be parking in the driveway until I drive in the parkway past the thruway with traffic signals... I was recently moved to tears (I laughed too hard) by an article on the various words ending in -ough and their miscellaneous pronunciations. Try slough, bough, and tough. And the words "bough" and "bow". Don't get me started.
And what's with this LinearLineman guy... Nietzsche and Catholic Aristotle indeed. I'm more of a Dorothy Parker guy myself: "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think"...
I shouldn't have started this. I shouldn't have started this... And I see now that "waiting on tenterhooks" must be a bit like being stretched on a rack... Which is likely where I'll end up if the two of you get a hold of me.
@motmeister You are a master of the bon mot, indeed.
@linearlineman can assemble words into structures that defy most zoning ordinances using materials that pre-date the age of radio... and he's a hell of a dancer, to boot.
Together we have made this forum a haven for failed septuagenarian composers, improvisers and wannabe artists.
I never studied English but I consumed massive quantities of it in print form in my youth.
And that has made all the difference, I feel. I have walked in the shoes of a million souls
through the printed word and it has made me the man that I am. If I was ever to meet myself, I would hope to get a word in edge wise. Or maybe two words. "Check please."
@drcongo, I can appreciate your difficulties, but can’t understand why CB3 is so uncooperative for you. How would you reconcile your experiences with those, like myself, who perform the same operations you describe without the attendant problems?
I'll interrupt our regular programming with a short rant.
Dude. Many here don't use a DAW like a multi-track tape studio. They use it like Crispr Technology to re-order the DNA of audio. "Cubasis doesn't even have reverse" so you can't even get out of the driveway. Study the ravings of @samu and you'll quickly realize he's on a totally different plane of musical existence from us ol' jazzers.
Speaking of attendant problems... when was the last time someone put air in your tires
and cleaned your windshield while putting gas in your car? And how about that guy in the Men's room that hands out warm towels? Are we really that old?
Do you remember when gas was 25 cents a gallon and OPEC decided to turn oil into the most prized resource in the world and destroy the planet at the same time... turning oil into
the anti-christ, harbinger of the end times for atheists?
Did you drive? I'm a Californian, born, raised and soon to be buried. So, I've logged well over a million miles behind the wheel. My carbon footprint covers the state of Delaware. When I wasn't driving I took Jets. I did take a slow boat to Hawaii at the age of 5.
I've owned or leased over 20 cars and only totaled one! But it got even and broke my neck
between C1 and C2 but only just a bit. I got a titanium fixture and I'm back on the road again.
I never got a DUI but I should have once or twice.
OK. We made it to the weekend. Let this one die a slow death now.
...it can reverse an audio-clip in the audio-editor. It even saves a new file so the original doesn't get destroyed
(But then again in order to load the original back to the time-line it's digging in the Files.app unless the event was duplicated on the time-line prior to being reversed, hence the wish to have a 'Project Media' tab in the media bay).
For the most part Cubasis works pretty good...
...I'm just 'angry at my brain' because it almost always finds things that can be improved with just about any app I touch
That's the downside of being a 'geek' and I've always been like that...
When I bought my SY85 (-92) I bugged the heck out of Yamaha to get the file-specifications for the *.Wxx file-format that was used by the samples. I got tired of Midi SDS being insanely slow so I wrote my own snippet to add a header to raw sample files.
This way I could load the samples from a Floppy which was a lot faster that doing Midi Sample Dump.
Even though I can sometimes have a pretty harsh way of expressing the ideas it's all with good intent to improve the apps.
Cheers & Take Care
Sorry... I was being a jerk. I just get frustrated myself with complaints about software.
There's is very little truly great software in the world and yet it's eating the world at a rapid
pace.
Software is starting to program us to its requirements. And I'm OK with that because the
results are so damn good... with this massive trove of bad software, I can create small
miracles. They are personal miracles and rarely produce feedback one might hope to elicit.
But my wife, on hearing a recent piece said "Your music is like a character in the movie."
and there was no movie but the sound implied one.
I'm sorry, I called you out for OCD and being obsessed with the quality of your tools. What gives me the right? Live and let live. "Judge not..." or better yet. Do unto others...
Sorry. You are extremely helpful and deserve a little respect for your shared knowledge.
I will politely go fuck myself... and fail again in the attempt.
This is especially true with iOS/iPadOS!
I was quite 'shocked' when I decided to re-dig deeper into Logic Pro and noticed that almost every single issue I have with iOS/iPadOS apps is a 'non issue' in Logic Pro, but I can't 'touch the screen' which I've grown to love.
While there is certain truth to limitations sparking creativity the problems arise when limitations become frustrations.
For the most part I'm using the iPad as a 'Sound Module' to Renoise & Logic Pro and it 'works for me'.
No worries @McD we're all in the same boat
Speaking of deep and weird movies check out Gaspar Noe Enter the Void. That is quite the trip!
That's NOT true. I do it all the time. I have fingerprints to prove it all over my MacBook display.
I let my wife edit a shopping order on my Mac and she does it too being a full-time iPad user.
I want an iPad with a really solid keyboard. Hopefully, the new one has a great keyboard with a touch pad for moving the cursor. Then I can use all my programmed gestures for interacting with the "click-i-verse".
I have no idea. I’m sure at least half of my frustration is borne out of having once been so productive in Cubasis 2, then that stopped working well with iOS 13 and never recovered, then C3 came out and I paid £50 for a considerably worse product. I’ve never managed to make more than a few bars in C3, and normally with one instrument, before I’m forced to give up. When it first came out it was so bad that I spent weeks going back and forth with Lars on the Steinberg forums, sending crash reports and projects that could no longer be opened, and making videos of the exact steps needed to reproduce any one of a million showstopper bugs, none of which were present in C2.
Stuff like this…
And this…
And this…
It still amazes me that it got released in that state and I definitely resent being an alpha tester for software that I’ve paid that much for. Eventually, after paying £50 for the privilege of being an alpha tester and putting in so much time and effort to help, I gave up. By the time my bug reports did eventually get fixed I’d bought every other DAW on iOS and fallen in love with NS2, and even when I do stray back over to C3, there’s still showstopper bugs in there a year and a half after release. Input latency on a drum machine is a showstopper, look at the grief AudioKit got for it.
@drcongo, well, if NS2 does it for you, maybe that’s the whole answer. The right tool for the right user. Most of us become attached to a particular DAW, I’m thinkin’. Then again, you were productive on CB2.
Yet some of us are constantly frustrated by iOS daws, I’d say I’m on the same boat as @Samu. When something doesn’t work like it should I just can’t “let it go”.
Id need to merge Auria, Zenbeats, Cubasis and a lot of AUM into a DAW Frankenstein to get close. One doesn’t have a drum sequencer, but the one with the drum sequencer doesn’t have group tracks, the other one has a terrible ui, etc, etc... It must be due to the size of the iOS music market. There’s obviously been plenty of advances and improvements but it’s still miles away from desktop daws. Audio editing, for instance, has hardly evolved. Auria had more features years ago than any other daw has today, but Auria seems rather abandoned, crashes and bad UI.
Everyone’s waiting for Logic in iOS but I’m under the impression that if one of the other big companies (Roland Zenbeats, Steinberg Cubasis...) really saw a market and increased the resources they’d make a full-on killer DAW in no time. We got Lars from Cubasis, Mathew from Zenbeats... I don’t think you refer to a “Tom from Logic” do you?. Even in this big companies I believe the iOS team is quite small and can only do so much. And they do a terrific job.
I'm telling you... Cubasis 4.0 is going to solve all problems.
And if you believe me, I shall gently slip away into the night to be heard no more.
The most complex app genre is probably audio or video editing.
Steinberg sells fewer copies due to negative reviews and needs to keep the price high
as a result.
4.0 iso ging to be so good they can charge $100... consider the $50 an investment that
saves you $50 in the future.
OK.. I'm definitely going to slip into the shadows.
I'm sure many use the refund path and just pay the $100 when the reviews improve.
@jakoB_haQ is providing a positive review and there are many that feel otherwise but
these new features are compelling.
Maybe I'll try freezing some of my favorite apps again and see if the code quality is
the best yet. I like the complex sample library based apps like Noise, iSymphonic, Pure Synth Platinum, the top 3 pianos, and (maybe) XPad. But most don't seem to freeze well for me.
I invest a long time ago and 4.0 will probably get 'er done.
I also invested in NS2 for the audio roadmap.
And ZenBeats for Roland Cloud.
And Beatmaker 3 because all the cool kids...
And Drambo because the music and features are beyond great
And ApeFilter because LFO'ing parameters is a thing
And AudioBus 3 because @michael deserves to live a good life on our dime
And Audio Evolution Mobile Studio because that dev is so cool and I could end up with an Android phone if the alien presence is proven and it turns out the speak Apple.
But, if I have to make music it's StaffPad into AUM for mastering or just AUM with my 300 apps. (I didn't count them... it makes me too sad because I only have 128GB of room).
CHECKING @jakoB_haQ Video watch stats:
2.9K - not bad.
Yeah but how much are we going to have to pay to go from CB3 buggy to CB4 ?
We are all going to be on Logic kinda Pro by that time
Cubasis 4 will be worth whatever they ask... it's going to be perfect. We should start the
"Waiting for 4.0 Thread" because that's a real thing around here.
Logic Pro is designed for a mouse... or you a man or a mouse?
As @jakoB_haQ advises: Go finger your apps.
"Finger Logic" will take years. We could start a thread for that too. They could very well
rename GarageBand "Finger Logic" and slowly merge the feature sets.
All of this conjecture is pure Pretzel Logic... "You Go Back... Jack... and Buy It Again".
Lately if feel more like a mouse🐭
LogicBand will be amazing or is that GarageLogic. I always confuse them.
Posted this in the other thread also.
I'm getting a huge DSP spike with a stretched audio clip on a track.
I have an iPad Pro 12.9" 2017 and iPadOS 14.4.2
I have 4 tracks:
1 x audio track with a bassdrum clip
1 x audio track with a high hat clip, stretched to 99.2%
1 x audio track with a frozen version of the high hat clip
1 x midi track (DRC) with a baseline and Roughrider 3 (Sidechain from Bassdrum track)
I noticed a huge DSP spike on the high hat track with 99.2% stretch, no matter what stretch algorithm, sometimes resulting in a "tick" due to the high DSP.
If i mute the stretched track, and switch to the frozen track, the DSP spike vanishes.
If this occurs only with this setup, i wonder how devastating it would be with more tracks. This is already a minimal use of sources. This could be unworkable for me.
I made screen cap below:
One notice: I switched the stretch settings on the wrong track (the frozen one), but switching on the stretched one i see a huge difference.
Hi @McD ... StaffPad into AUM? I didn't know that routing was possible. Is it possible to route each instrument into a separate AUM channel?
StaffPad is a walled garden as far as routing audio/MIDI goes. You can however export each instrument as a stem or as a full mixdown. I’ll let @McD speak for himself on his return but I suspect he means that he applies post-processing etc of stems or full mixdown in AUM.
Staffpad can save a mixed audio of all tracks or a stem (individual wave file) per instrument.
Either can then be imported into AUM's file player(s) for the final mix of compression, EQ, Limiting and Reverb or IR to provide "place".
But realtime is not in the cards. It's batch mode passing file artifacts.
Staffpad can also output MIDI file stems to double instruments with synths in AUM for example.
Staffpad has pre-annouced a to be released support for importing audio stems into Staffpad for playback there. They also showed Staffpad converting musical input (i.e. live piano) into notation but it's suspected this will require an M1 iPad so it's another future that hasn't shipped and may take a long time to stabilize. It will potentially increase the total costs of
Staffpad on M1 products to add this needed feature because pencil input can be a pain for someone like the @LinearLineman who can play at the speed of thought.
These are great improvement proposals and I hope @LFS puts them on the list.
Has anyone had issues editing pitch bend cc events after they’ve been recorded in from an external midi keyboard?
When I open the editor, all the pitch bend events are there but when I double tap, or use the select tool, it only selects about 8 or so out of maybe 100+. I’m stuck with my pitch bend forever unless I delete the entire block and record in again. Weird.
Am I doing something dumb I wonder? This is what selecting all events looks like on a new project:
The issues in these videos definitely look like there’s something going on outside of CB3. Have you tried it on other iPads? Are you one of those “I never update iOS” folk? I can assure you that what you’re showing is not normal by any means. I don’t have any of these issues on my iPhone 11, last year’s iPad Pro, or the iPad 7th gen. I also think we’d hear a lot more if this was a common experience.
At a certain point, when no one else is experiencing what you experience, you should start wondering if it really is the app.
@drcongo, when I get a stuttering timeline I look at my last addition. If I eliminate it, it often returns to normal. I either reload, freeze that track or choose another AU. I’ve always had trouble with D1, unfortunately. Adding FX can also cause this problem.
Unfortunately, Cubasis is not glitch free, but I have, with repetition, circumvented or resolved almost every difficulty.
I think he is just still pissed about past bugs (currently fixed or not).
FWIW - I tried the things in the videos.
With D1 and Pumphouse after a few loops I got no sound. Replaced D1 with several other synths and everything worked as expected. Some AudioKit apps have issues.
Couldn’t replicate the other issues. I am on 2019 iPad (8th gen) with iOS 14.5.1 and Cubasis 3.3.
It looks like you’re using an old version of Cubasis. What iOS are you on? As was mentioned your problems could with something other than the app.
@DukeWonder I should have been clearer sorry, those videos were all from the first few months of C3, all recorded to file bug reports on the Steinberg forums. That last one with the copy/paste/glue bug was on release day and the very first thing I tried - it was an omen. I think most of that stuff is fixed now, but I find something new within minutes every time I try to use it so I’ve given up hope of ever getting to use it again. And yeah, multiple iPads - the one in the videos was a maxed out 2017 iPad Pro, it’s also buggy on my daughter’s iPad and I’m currently on a maxed out 2020 iPad Pro. Also what @AudioGus said.
Hello, not sure about this but you see the ‘x’ where you close your midi editor? Next to that is a 1/8? Can you set that to ‘off’? and see if that helps?
Thanks! I tried that and numerous other things, just can seem to select them.
If I use the pitch bend on cubasis’ built in keyboard, it’s fine, I can edit all the cc pitch bend events.
I’ve tried changing the midi in from all to my keyboard as well.
I wonder if there’s something about the resolution of the pitch wheel from my keylab (essential 49) or something. Monitoring the midi events in Midiflow, those pitch bend ccs come in pretty fast so If this isn’t a regression in cubasis (can’t find any reports, sure people would have noticed), maybe my keyboard is flooding cubasis with too many events.
Gadget is fine with it, so I’m stumped!
Have asked over at the steinberg forums to see if I get any joy,