New problem - ipad will not charge

Telefunky

@Toastedghost if you build a (straw sized) nozzle for a vac, airspeed increases and in consequence even more static charge than on a regular nozzle builds up.
A metal nozzle would transfer static load from the cleaner‘s hose, so you‘d have to either ground it or use a material that doesn‘t charge at all, like wood, ceramic, etc.

Rule of thumb: load discharges over 1mm per 1kV and the charge is much higher.
So careful with that vac, Eugene

Gavinski

I popped into the App Store today. They reckoned it was likely to be a motherboard issue, they thought the mophie charger and anger hub were unlikely to be the cause. As my Apple care has expired, I took it to a 3rd party store, they are currently fixing the motherboard, for a mere 80 dollars or so US and I will get it back in a day or two, hopefully this will solve the problem, fingers crossed

tahiche

@tahiche said:

@Gavinski said:! Yes, it is a hub that connects with no wires etc, hard against the ipad and yes, I have experienced momentary connection glitches

If you haven’t fried your iPad already ditch that hub ASAP.
There’s long educated guesses at my post where some forum members that know their stuff contributed.
My impression, which I feel strongly, is that when the hub connects/disconnects frequently it causes a sort of “confusion” in the iPad. The usb c does both power and data. If the iPad (the dedicated chip) is “stuck” in data mode and it receives power it might send the power down the data lane and screw up the iPad.
My stupid metaphor, but useful, is food going down the air pipe...

@ervin said:

@NeuM said:

@AudioGus said:

@rs2000 said:

@Gavinski said:
Just now after a restart I also had the screen flash purple then it turned itself off. What could that be? That has happened a few times.... 😂 🤣😢

Does the "Pro" in iPad Pro stand for "Problems"?

Now that the single core of the base model has exceeded my 2017 Pro (and they support pencil now) I am firmly a base model forever dude from now on. Too many other Pro-blems (Hiyo! (thanks)) from Apple shenanigans to even bother with anything else. Oh and headphone jack, shit, too easy.

Apple put a real, honest to goodness headphone jack on their brand new iMacs. They should put them back on their iPad Pros… which, fully spec’ed out, can easily be more expensive than the iMac!

I'm looking at the Air now every day and still think removing the headphone jack is just absolutely, earth-shatteringly dumb. Even if I don't think of making music with it.

My original opinion was that Apple still makes great hardware but quite backward software these days. But looking at the lack of that jack, and reading about these pro-killing stories... I mean, no matter how cruelly I twist anything in and out of the usb-c connector of our basic Samsung tablet, it just works.

100% wise words.

I guess the only thing that keeps Apple interesting for me is that they are still the only ones to handle audio properly for music making. 🤷

I did take a look at a Surface device when I went to buy the stupid Apple hub.
It’s supposed to handle audio well but it doesn’t feel or look like a touch device. Sourface.

@Gavinski

Well, what is the recommendation for a cabled hub?

I got the Apple one. Over priced, stupid device. I got and hdmi I’m never gonna use and no headphone jack. It also looks ridiculous hanging from the side. BUT seeing how I have no certainty about the actual problem, might as well go with Apple to try and minimize whatever factors are involved. Like @wim says, the Apple one is a lot sturdier, it’s more fixed and less prone to movement that may cause whatever it may cause.

PS: I just read about the motherboard fix. Glad it’s manageable!. I’d still ditch the brick hub, though. There’s something wrong with these iPads, it’s better to minimize the risk.

McD

“film at 11 -man starves iPad with 3rd party hardware.”

Apple “this may not be a supported device”

Reviewer -heads up gang... iPads need 18W power sources to charge fast.

AlmostAnonymous

@tahiche said:
It also looks ridiculous hanging from the side.

I use extension cables I’ve gotten off Amazon. Work fine. I have a crapload of these and not 1 has failed or caused any disconnections yet:

Others I know use USB C ones….no issues.

McD

Blowing compressed air through the openings has given some of my devices better performance but at some point hardware can need new parts to fix bad electrical traces that are adding unneeded resistance to the connections and dropping voltages into sub-optimal thresholds.

tahiche

@AlmostAnonymous said:

@tahiche said:
It also looks ridiculous hanging from the side.

I use extension cables I’ve gotten off Amazon. Work fine. I have a crapload of these and not 1 has failed or caused any disconnections yet:

Others I know use USB C ones….no issues.

Are you recommending those so you can make another meme when I rant about having fried my 4th iPad? 😂
It’s clear there’s heavy duty negotiations in that port were not aware of. Like a secret megabit masonry gathering.
Anyway that pic is Lightning, lightning is fine, not evil like usb c. It even got along with headphones, good old days.

AlmostAnonymous

A cable is a cable. It’s gonna fry outa of the hub or with a 10 foot extension cord on the hub.

tahiche

@AlmostAnonymous said:
A cable is a cable. It’s gonna fry outa of the hub or with a 10 foot extension cord on the hub.

That’s what I thought. Until I started hearing about e-mark chips in cables and whatnot. I find it all shady and unclear. Of course a cable shouldn’t affect anything, but a hub shouldn’t fry an iPad either...

duncank

I’ve been having problems with various different hubs.
One will work as a hub but not pass power at the same time, another the opposite, another will keep disconnecting randomly.
Tried Baseus, Anker (the one that fits onto the body of the iPad, that kept disconnecting) and Lention.
It really is a massive weak point of what is, otherwise, a great product and could easily be solved by replacing he 3.5mm or at least having a separate audio out.
I’ve been spending far too much time researching gear than actually making music. Very frustrating.
It shows that audio use is definitely not at the top of the list for iOS, as far as Apple are concerned.

Gavinski

I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

uncledave

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

Some hubs use a removable cable connection, like this one. That lets you select the cable length, and replace it if necessary. Just be sure to use a cable that supports PD.

Gavinski

Thanks Dave, that looks great except that it lacks headphone jack, which is a must for me
@uncledave

ervin

@Gavinski said:
Thanks Dave, that looks great except that it lacks headphone jack, which is a must for me
@uncledave

You could just leave a jack-to-usb converter in one of its slots permanently though. (If you need all of the slots for other peripheries in this one, they also have a bigger version that may have more slots.)

Gavinski

@ervin said:

@Gavinski said:
Thanks Dave, that looks great except that it lacks headphone jack, which is a must for me
@uncledave

You could just leave a jack-to-usb converter in one of its slots permanently though. (If you need all of the slots for other peripheries in this one, they also have a bigger version that may have more slots.)

Are you sure it works like that? I wasn’t sure if it would still be able to pass audio through. If it definitely can, that would be good. What I have noticed with the 2 hubs I have bought so far, they could send audio out through the jack, but could not send audio in through it (ie. No ability to send voice messages or record via inline mic)

ervin

@Gavinski said:

@ervin said:

@Gavinski said:
Thanks Dave, that looks great except that it lacks headphone jack, which is a must for me
@uncledave

You could just leave a jack-to-usb converter in one of its slots permanently though. (If you need all of the slots for other peripheries in this one, they also have a bigger version that may have more slots.)

Are you sure it works like that? I wasn’t sure if it would still be able to pass audio through. If it definitely can, that would be good. What I have noticed with the 2 hubs I have bought so far, they could send audio out through the jack, but could not send audio in through it (ie. No ability to send voice messages or record via inline mic)

The one (noname) hub I used for a while was able to do this with one USB slot - but you're right that's probably less than statistically representative enough to recommend that as a general solution for every hub. Sorry about getting carried away.

AudioGus

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

‘Cable protectors’ can help with fraying…

https://www.amazon.ca/Spiral-Charging-Protector-Organizer-Protetor/dp/B07Z5MNR44/ref=sr_1_5?crid=25HQ188JV7NYZ&dchild=1&keywords=cable+protector&qid=1621950677&sprefix=Cable+prote,aps,212&sr=8-5

Gavinski

@AudioGus said:

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

‘Cable protectors’ can help with fraying…

https://www.amazon.ca/Spiral-Charging-Protector-Organizer-Protetor/dp/B07Z5MNR44/ref=sr_1_5?crid=25HQ188JV7NYZ&dchild=1&keywords=cable+protector&qid=1621950677&sprefix=Cable+prote,aps,212&sr=8-5

Thnx, been meaning to buy some!

AudioGus

@Gavinski said:

@AudioGus said:

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

‘Cable protectors’ can help with fraying…

Thnx, been meaning to buy some!

I used to use them on my wired 'walkin about' headphones. Definitely extended the life of cheapo replacement cables.

tahiche

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

I carved out a portion of my protective cover so it won’t interfere with the “wedge” usb.
I’d still get a Apple original hub. Unless you want to challenge me in the iPad frying contest.

Gavinski

@AudioGus said:

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

‘Cable protectors’ can help with fraying…

https://www.amazon.ca/Spiral-Charging-Protector-Organizer-Protetor/dp/B07Z5MNR44/ref=sr_1_5?crid=25HQ188JV7NYZ&dchild=1&keywords=cable+protector&qid=1621950677&sprefix=Cable+prote,aps,212&sr=8-5

Thnx, been meaning to buy some! > @tahiche said:

@Gavinski said:
I was just talking to anker support. They will replace my hub as it is a bit loose and still within warranty. But, they said that it is not recommended to use the type which sits flush against the side of the ipad if using a protective cover, or smart keyboard etc, as I am using. So I guess next time I actually buy one of these I will buy the type with cable out. Not the type that sits flush. I guess the combo of the case and its little edge creates the torque that Wim mentioned earlier. But the problem with the cabled ones is that I am almost sure that that cable is gonna fray and break after time. Neither solution is ideal it seems.

I carved out a portion of my protective cover so it won’t interfere with the “wedge” usb.
I’d still get a Apple original hub. Unless you want to challenge me in the iPad frying contest.

Please send a link to this apple hub, at the store they've never had anything suitable

DMan

@Gavinski said:
I strongly suspect this is relaylted to the anker hub. The hub is also no longer sending audio through its headphone jack, though when I attach the headphones I do hear a little clicky sound. Worst thing of all, I accidently let my apple care expire.

If you are in one of the listed countries you can extend the AppleCare within 30 days. It’s not many countries though. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210580

Gavinski

@DMan said:

@Gavinski said:
I strongly suspect this is relaylted to the anker hub. The hub is also no longer sending audio through its headphone jack, though when I attach the headphones I do hear a little clicky sound. Worst thing of all, I accidently let my apple care expire.

If you are in one of the listed countries you can extend the AppleCare within 30 days. It’s not many countries though. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210580

Yes, I already missed that unfortunately through procrastinating, thnx tho