SnakeBud - AUv3 MIDI Sequencer (Big v3.0 Update!)

onerez

Hey guys….. how can I set up a LFO or something properly to cycle through the patterns via CC? I have one simple session where I am using midiLFOs and a sine wave to alternate between patterns 1and 2. How would I set up to have it go through 3,4 or more patterns and play those for 20 seconds and move on??

@cem_olcay Thank you for all the updates!!!!!!!!! A pattern switcher like someone talked about would be fantastic if not too much work. Play pattern 1 4 times then move on etc…..

Gavinski

@onerez said:
Hey guys….. how can I set up a LFO or something properly to cycle through the patterns via CC? I have one simple session where I am using midiLFOs and a sine wave to alternate between patterns 1and 2. How would I set up to have it go through 3,4 or more patterns and play those for 20 seconds and move on??

@cem_olcay Thank you for all the updates!!!!!!!!! A pattern switcher like someone talked about would be fantastic if not too much work. Play pattern 1 4 times then move on etc…..

I did part of my video on exactly this topic, using stepbud to automate the patterns

onerez

@Gavinski said:

@onerez said:
Hey guys….. how can I set up a LFO or something properly to cycle through the patterns via CC? I have one simple session where I am using midiLFOs and a sine wave to alternate between patterns 1and 2. How would I set up to have it go through 3,4 or more patterns and play those for 20 seconds and move on??

@cem_olcay Thank you for all the updates!!!!!!!!! A pattern switcher like someone talked about would be fantastic if not too much work. Play pattern 1 4 times then move on etc…..

I did part of my video on exactly this topic, using stepbud to automate the patterns

Sorry @Gavinski ….. your voice is like some hypnotic ASMR deal and its so soothing it puts me to sleep…. 😂❤️.

Will go back and look. 😁

Gavinski

@onerez said:

@Gavinski said:

@onerez said:
Hey guys….. how can I set up a LFO or something properly to cycle through the patterns via CC? I have one simple session where I am using midiLFOs and a sine wave to alternate between patterns 1and 2. How would I set up to have it go through 3,4 or more patterns and play those for 20 seconds and move on??

@cem_olcay Thank you for all the updates!!!!!!!!! A pattern switcher like someone talked about would be fantastic if not too much work. Play pattern 1 4 times then move on etc…..

I did part of my video on exactly this topic, using stepbud to automate the patterns

Sorry @Gavinski ….. your voice is like some hypnotic ASMR deal and its so soothing it puts me to sleep…. 😂❤️.

Will go back and look. 😁

Lol. It's tinestamped so u can go direct to the part

vasilymilovidov

dotted and triplet notes are added!

NimboStratus

I also used Helium to trigger the pattern changes

cem_olcay

How do you toggle the steps? By tapping them one-by-one or just moving your finger around the grid? That's one of my favorite features of SnakeBud and wanted to make sure if everyone is aware of this feature

anickt

@cem_olcay said:
How do you toggle the steps? By tapping them one-by-one or just moving your finger around the grid? That's one of my favorite features of SnakeBud and wanted to make sure if everyone is aware of this feature

😎👍🏼

wim

Yep, that is a great feature for adding in rhythmic interest and for quickly generating subtle variations.

@cem_olcay - it was just that feature that made me want to ask for a pattern copy/paste. That would make it easier to create variations on a good pattern. Or ... am I just missing it in the interface somewhere? I've noticed that sometimes the -/+ buttons don't show below the Snake and time division in the AU version. I managed to get them to show up by sort of swiping over where they should be. I wonder if maybe there's a copy/paste button hiding out like that somewhere? If not, it's badly needed.

anickt

@wim said:
Yep, that is a great feature for adding in rhythmic interest and for quickly generating subtle variations.

@cem_olcay - it was just that feature that made me want to ask for a pattern copy/paste. That would make it easier to create variations on a good pattern. Or ... am I just missing it in the interface somewhere? I've noticed that sometimes the -/+ buttons don't show below the Snake and time division in the AU version. I managed to get them to show up by sort of swiping over where they should be. I wonder if maybe there's a copy/paste button hiding out like that somewhere? If not, it's badly needed.

Long press on the pattern to get menu. Somebody (maybe @cem_olcay) said the missing +/- buttons may be an iOS issue. Seems there’s more behind the scenes like swiping to turn steps on/off instead of stabbing each one. Great workflow element!

NimboStratus

@cem_olcay pls see my suggestion about about direction

wim

Thanks @anickt - I did try that but maybe it was something having to do with scaling problems at the time. I think it was in a session where the -/+ buttons were dodgy as well.

It's great to know it's there!

cem_olcay

@NimboStratus said:
@cem_olcay pls see my suggestion about about direction

All patters has forward/backward/top/bottom movement variations already. I’m not planning to add a ping-pong style movement though. You can actually program way more interesting patterns by using the “randomise snake” or “snake pattern number” AU parameters and automising them.

NimboStratus

@cem_olcay said:

@NimboStratus said:
@cem_olcay pls see my suggestion about about direction

All patters has forward/backward/top/bottom movement variations already. I’m not planning to add a ping-pong style movement though. You can actually program way more interesting patterns by using the “randomise snake” or “snake pattern number” AU parameters and automising them.

Ah I did not know they already had directions included! Thanks for replying.

Fingolfinzz

TRIPLETS! Thanks for all these updates, this thing is my favorite sequencer. Sequencing my model d with this and having my td3 going along side it has been techno heaven

Poppadocrock

@xor said:

@Poppadocrock said:
@xor thanks for diving into that.

I noticed the problem but @blueveek did the heavy diagnostic lifting. I’m just the bulldog at this point. Fingers crossed that it’ll get fixed.

Well, nonetheless, it is still appreciated. Thanks to @blueveek as well. @cem_olcay said he was going to work on the issue (seen below) so I’m sure he will do whatever he can. So do you know if all the bud apps are affected by this, or are we just talking about step bud. Just curious?

@cem_olcay said:

@xor said:

@Poppadocrock said:

@bleep said:
Has Snakebud implemented better handling for sample accurate timing to prevent drift over time? It was talked about earlier with regards to the buds.

This is a weird one, because a couple people said they had issues but others said they didn’t. I’ve never analyzed it with a midi monitor but I’ve never noticed any drifting issues either so I’m not sure what the issue is here… or if there even is one? maybe specific devices, or an older OS, etc. not sure. I just know I’ve never noticed anything in terms of the midi timing. Plus you can always record the midi into atom, atom 2, helium, X2, Photon…

It’s not really a drift but rather the Bud apps are consistently behind the beat by, up to, a frame. It’s more noticeable with large frame sizes. Here’s a screenshot of a simple Mozaic script that logs the delta time from the beginning of the beat for note-on events for StepBud(1), Atom2 (2), Drambo (3) and Cells (4). They’re all playing whole notes at 60 bpm. StepBud is consistently 21ms behind the other three. 1 / ( 48000 / 1024 ) = 0.021333 or, in English, the duration of a single 1024 sample frame at 48,000Hz is just slightly over 21 milliseconds.

This isn’t really a problem if the *Bud apps are the only sequencers in use but can cause problems if you try to combine midi from other apps or use the *Bud midi to control other apps.

I'll work on this issue.

xor

@Poppadocrock said:

So do you know if all the bud apps are affected by this, or are we just talking about step bud. Just curious?

I just checked ArpBud 2, ChordBud 2 and RyrhmBud and, like StepBud, they all generate midi at the beginning of a frame (probably after the beat - I didn’t dig that deep) rather than exactly on the beat. ScaleBud emits notes in exact time with its input so it’s ok. That’s all I gots.

Toastedghost

@NimboStratus said:
Sorry posted in wrong thread.

@cem_olcay

Could you please add a direction option for snake? Forwards, backwards and forwards/backwards. That they you would effectively add x3 more snakes (3x54 = 162!) and it could allow for some really good poly stuff with two or three instances running.

Love this idea, plently of potential here!

Gavinski

@Toastedghost said:

@NimboStratus said:
Sorry posted in wrong thread.

@cem_olcay

Could you please add a direction option for snake? Forwards, backwards and forwards/backwards. That they you would effectively add x3 more snakes (3x54 = 162!) and it could allow for some really good poly stuff with two or three instances running.

Love this idea, plently of potential here!

Cem already posted a reply to that idea -

"All patters has forward/backward/top/bottom movement variations already. I’m not planning to add a ping-pong style movement though. You can actually program way more interesting patterns by using the “randomise snake” or “snake pattern number” AU parameters and automising them."

cem_olcay

Today on 21:00 UK time, Jade Starr will review the SnakeBud on her livestream, come join us!

GeoTony

First of all many thanks @cem_olcay for a lovely app. I am having great fun using this (and the other…Buds), my latest effort being https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45564/stepbud-snakebud-moodunit-madness-in-f-dorian where I am using it in a version of Generative music. While trying to do this a few thoughts occurred re enhancements that could increase the scope of SnakeBud (apologies for falling into the never ending enhancement request trap)…
One, the ability to generate CC (like StepBud) would be great. This would in effect give you a programmable or random CC generator and in my example I could use SnakeBud instead of StepBud which would give the setup a nice purity.
Two, being able to link multiple SnakeBuds. There is a nice Head to Tail metaphor waiting to be exploited here. This would allow limitless length Snakes. I have a nagging thought that this may be possible now somehow but can’t work it out.
Three, a half speed and Quintuplet option to bring SnakeBud up to the same feature set as your other Buds.
Four, a facility to manage the impact of randomisations which I know is a bit of a contradiction. I was thinking of something like that available in ChordJam which allows a minimum / maximum value within which the randomisations will fall.
I would be happy to pay extra for some form of IAP for these features.
Again many thanks for an already excellent app.

cem_olcay

@GeoTony said:
First of all many thanks @cem_olcay for a lovely app. I am having great fun using this (and the other…Buds), my latest effort being https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45564/stepbud-snakebud-moodunit-madness-in-f-dorian where I am using it in a version of Generative music. While trying to do this a few thoughts occurred re enhancements that could increase the scope of SnakeBud (apologies for falling into the never ending enhancement request trap)…
One, the ability to generate CC (like StepBud) would be great. This would in effect give you a programmable or random CC generator and in my example I could use SnakeBud instead of StepBud which would give the setup a nice purity.
Two, being able to link multiple SnakeBuds. There is a nice Head to Tail metaphor waiting to be exploited here. This would allow limitless length Snakes. I have a nagging thought that this may be possible now somehow but can’t work it out.
Three, a half speed and Quintuplet option to bring SnakeBud up to the same feature set as your other Buds.
Four, a facility to manage the impact of randomisations which I know is a bit of a contradiction. I was thinking of something like that available in ChordJam which allows a minimum / maximum value within which the randomisations will fall.
I would be happy to pay extra for some form of IAP for these features.
Again many thanks for an already excellent app.

That's great, thanks! I wont add CC generator to SnakeBud, it would add massive amount of complexity to the app
I'm planning to add more options to randomiser though, limiting the randomness etc.

NimboStratus

@cem_olcay said:

@GeoTony said:
Three, a half speed and Quintuplet option to bring SnakeBud up to the same feature set as your other Buds.

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That's great, thanks! I wont add CC generator to SnakeBud, it would add massive amount of complexity to the app
I'm planning to add more options to randomiser though, limiting the randomness etc.

Want to also add my thanks, I love it. If you do add 5s could you also add 7s? Thanks ;-)
I know I know asking for more is frowned upon but just a suggestion

cem_olcay

I've recorded a quick video for demonstrating the chord sequencing with ScaleBud. It's really fun & easy!
Just route SnakeBud to ScaleBud and select the same key/scale pair on both of them.

NimboStratus

So scale bud is play a chord based into the root note from snake?

Poppadocrock

@cem_olcay said:

@GeoTony said:
First of all many thanks @cem_olcay for a lovely app. I am having great fun using this (and the other…Buds), my latest effort being https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45564/stepbud-snakebud-moodunit-madness-in-f-dorian where I am using it in a version of Generative music. While trying to do this a few thoughts occurred re enhancements that could increase the scope of SnakeBud (apologies for falling into the never ending enhancement request trap)…
One, the ability to generate CC (like StepBud) would be great. This would in effect give you a programmable or random CC generator and in my example I could use SnakeBud instead of StepBud which would give the setup a nice purity.
Two, being able to link multiple SnakeBuds. There is a nice Head to Tail metaphor waiting to be exploited here. This would allow limitless length Snakes. I have a nagging thought that this may be possible now somehow but can’t work it out.
Three, a half speed and Quintuplet option to bring SnakeBud up to the same feature set as your other Buds.
Four, a facility to manage the impact of randomisations which I know is a bit of a contradiction. I was thinking of something like that available in ChordJam which allows a minimum / maximum value within which the randomisations will fall.
I would be happy to pay extra for some form of IAP for these features.
Again many thanks for an already excellent app.

That's great, thanks! I wont add CC generator to SnakeBud, it would add massive amount of complexity to the app
I'm planning to add more options to randomiser though, limiting the randomness etc.

Awesome, I love when you can control the randomization, set parameters or a range for randomness. Great idea. You could do them similar to the ArpBud settings menu. Where you can set 2 values for the randomization feature.

Poppadocrock

@NimboStratus said:
So scale bud is play a chord based into the root note from snake?

Not exactly sure what your question is, but scale bud can be set to notes or chords in any of the scales provided.

If you set them both to the same scale, switch scale bud to chords, it will take the incoming midi notes from SnakeBud and send out the corresponding chord in that scale to whatever app you want.

NimboStratus

@Poppadocrock said:

@NimboStratus said:
So scale bud is play a chord based into the root note from snake?

Not exactly sure what your question is, but scale bud can be set to notes or chords in any of the scales provided.

If you set them both to the same scale, switch scale bud to chords, it will take the incoming midi notes from SnakeBud and send out the corresponding chord in that scale to whatever app you want.

Yes thanks

cem_olcay

The new update v1.4 is up!! I've added the new randomiser settings for limiting the gate, velocity and probability randomisation.

lukesleepwalker

@cem_olcay said:
The new update v1.4 is up!! I've added the new randomiser settings for limiting the gate, velocity and probability randomisation.

Right on! Looks great. Thx