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And now this guy wants to produce IDM!
There comes a time in a person's life when their worldview of music is changed. This happened last week with Minimal Techno, and now it's happened again. This video is the single most genius piece of music I've ever heard.
(First four or so minutes has a shitload of cussing in the dialogue, and a lot of it is sexist unfortunately, so nsfw warning.)
I researched what genre Windowlicker falls under, and Wikipedia said "IDM". I've heard this term bandied about before but never understood what it meant. After researching IDM, I'm even more confused than ever before. 😞
So I want to produce it. What is IDM? What defines it? Are there decent video tutorials out there like the ones for Minimal Techno? Where do I begin this next journey? What artists besides Aphex Twin are perfect examples?
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😂😂😂 Welcome to the wonderful world of Aphex Twin.
Now you're getting serious. That dialogue
I love that song. Remember when I said that sound plays a main role?
This is even more true for this one.
Could very well be a demo for SB Effectrix or Turnado.
Windowlicker was out 20+ years ago ( where ya been )
IDM was a term back then for Intelligent dance music.
So now you know what Aphex twin looks like. I thought he could have been the actual devil sitting in front of a fire place in a pub.
This track makes me think of aphex twin/windowlicker. Aphex twin driving around on throne thing with pole dancers but to the real public but in fact. Aphex twin were actually concieved to this, in the back of a rubbish lorry in East Peckham. I think its quite romantic.
Roel funcken/funckarma/quench is good.
What about vaetxh? Dont know many artists anymore. Music isnt as good for me. Always a headache.
You could become the new Kettel ( the melody master ) This is still ok for the garden. The plants like it, when you are gardening.
This is wierd.
This is cool for 2006.
None of it makes any sense to me. Some of this doesn’t even sound like music to me. Like noise and conversation with dance beats thrown in here and there.
If you want to make something that you have no idea what it is you are going to have trouble. If you make the music you have in your head and don’t worry about what it is called then you’ll be fine. There is no need to find some “template” for music that automatically labels it as something.
Other artists to help get an understanding would be Autechre, Boards of Canada, Ochre, Wisp, Plaid (try Double Figure first), Bola, Chris Clark, Higher Intelligence Agency, Gridlock (though they blend idm with industrial) and Jetone’s album Autumnonia.
But definitely check Autechre, they’re like the godfather’s of IDM. LP5 is a great starting point, but their first album, Incunabula, is a great example of the genre too with decidedly stronger dance roots.
Youtube sounds so bad.
This tune would be good remastered or made yourself ( with your synths )
Used to be a terminator 3 video to song.
Sorry to keep posting. Was going to post a Nathan Fake song. Then found a live set that I havent heard but will listen later.
@DMan : ”None of it makes any sense to me. Some of this doesn’t even sound like music to me. Like noise and conversation…” I’ll mostly leave out the dance beats, but otherwise I think you may have just nailed my new aesthetic goal for me!
jon Hopkins' Singularity album
I thought the windowlicker stuff was too scare, I always fawned over his early stuff, sounds like intelligent rave music 4 sure
Also Autechre
Jungle techno bro.
Standard techno.
Dr s gatchet is in da house.
Another victim. Of the E.
Just going to throw this out there for @jwmmakerofmusic so he can get a feel for the ground covered by Aphex Twin over the past 20+ years. Also for @DMan to hear something traditionally musical! The guy is a full blown musical genius in my book.
Check this out for the other end of the spectrum:
I think this lends to the point of not trying to really fit yourself into a genre necessarily. Make what sounds good!
Richard is an alien with a brain far more advanced than mine
Essentially, IDM was a polar reaction against this sort of direction which had become prevalent at the time, but represented a fairly shallow intellectual position.
The thinking was that there must be more that we can be doing with electronic music than this:
2 Unlimited / No Limit
Incidentally, this is another example of the thing I’ve been saying recently, which is that most electronic dance music could have happened even if synthesisers hadn’t been invented, it’s merely a style, and could have been achieved almost identically with organs.
Exactly this. Learning production techniques from different genres is fun but when it comes to electronica/IDM whatever you want to call it, it’s really sound design. Bleeps and bloops and beats and basslines in your own style. Or not. 🤙
listen to autechre. and then you learn max/msp.
I like IDM, I bought a lot of Warp CDs over the years, including some from Autechre. I once bought a few CDs from warp directly and they included a free album by Red Snapper which I ended up preferring to the ones I’d ordered.
My introduction to Aphex twin and Autechre was actually through a DVD I had of Chris Cunningham videos. It includes that window licker video and the totally batshit and brilliant video to Come to Daddy. Which still looks and sounds amazing today. And also still looks and sounds totally batshit.
His videos are worth tracking down. They’re just the best music videos. His Bjork video is great and he even did one for an up and coming unkown female singer called Madonna. Not sure what happened to her but I think she might have changed her name to lady Gaga at some point.
These days I still like much of the IDM stuff but can’t really listen to Autechre so much. At the time, which was before streaming services and the like you often ended up buying based on reviews from the likes of the lovely people at the NME. This was my favourite review of theirs:
https://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews-nme-6602-321221
It kind of made me want to buy it. And it Still makes me laugh today :-)
For the record I’m English and still have my own hair 🤞 🤣
i only listen to aphex twin and autechre nowadays and don’t really like anything else in IDM. and in my experience bald germans much prefer their music to be in 4/4 and i admire them for that.
FSOL Lifeforms
Also the new album
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One of my fav IDM Braindance outputs of Aphex D. James is his Analord series (see you in 3,5 hours)
For more melodic stuff, check out Bola and Ochre.
And Boards of Canada, of course. Geogaddi is a beauty.
Can I suggest that anyone interested In electronic music should dig back into early and mid career Australian pioneers Severed Heads and of course the amazing Cabaret Voltaire. I absolutely love BoC however those two bands really set the template for modern experimental electronic music.
Big fan of Ochre. They keep putting out engaging releases.
Talking of early Australian electronic music
(Come straight in at 10 mins, B side first track Vanessa Teratology – for some arseholeque reason, although I’m correctly pasting in a link which has a timestamp of t=600, this is infuriatingly NOT working and bloody well should no matter how many times I repeat the action)
Ah fuck it, I’m not going to tolerate this inadequate failure to blatantly not do what I’m fucking well telling the fucking thing to do by correctly using a link with a correctly formatted timestamp. Bastard. Forget it. Useless wanker software that disobeys me. It needs destroying.
In the meantime use this instead:
Systematics / Pulp Baby
How do you think the twisting metal sound were made? Modular or a certain sequencer with midi control of sound?
What about at 22.00 onwards. Is the sequencing going fast then slow? Think you could make with euclidean via controller manually ( if you were to program/daw style ) Or would there be a sequencer which is smart like other sequencers. Which could go fast and slow in a musical way?