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Couldn’t stop watching Gavinski’s videos or any other YouTube I support because of maybe 30 secs of ads. I’m willing to sacrifice that fraction of time for knowledge and to help a starving artist keep the videos coming.
Agree
I’m not watching videos anymore either. Now I search for information on the app’s website, manuals and so on and my GAS has decreased a lot.
Your choice
The Mrs and I run youtube on so many different devices/machines/browsers that paying for premium is a simple no brainer. No going back. Getting Youtube Music was a nice bonus too.
Thanks iOStrakon
What a lot of people don’t understand is that the amount of time spent on making deep walkthroughs often doesn’t leave time for creating other sources of income - Aparillo video, easily a week or ten days of very full time work, same with Beatcutter, and many other apps. If people don’t watch ads, PayPal is there as a decent alternative, but very few are kind enough to do this. Patreon mostly pays peanuts to iOS vid makers - look at the stats on Doug and Jakob’s Patreons - this is why I often seriously consider abandoning this channel altogether. Not a feasible way to make a living unless people are watching ads and donating.
Everyone just wants summat for nuffink...ain't no such thing as a free lunch...
Not necessarily. I'm sure we all pay for music, books, etc, but this is not about that.
Ads like those on YouTube are not just ads. They are complex trackers that gather information about us. This information is super valuable.
You say "something for nothing," and that's exactly what adware vendors are doing--taking very valuable data, then using it to sell ads. In return we get to watch a short video.
Meanwhile, the creator of that video also gets almost nothing from YouTube, as a percentage of what YouTube makes from those videos.
The real problem is that there's no alternative. There is nowhere else to go for excellent tutorial videos. Google may not have a technical monopoly on user-created video, but in practice it does. Even if @Gavinski wanted to self-host, it would be impossible. Even if he he could afford the streaming bandwidth, all the viewers are on YouTube.
And yes, creators don't have to pay for bandwidth, but thanks to peering arrangements and so on, YouTube/Google doesn't have to pay as much as we might guess, either.
Does YouTube music have the same sound quality as YouTube? The YouTube music compression settings are really audible and distracting to me. I’ve been using Amazon music HD for about 8 months now and I love the sound quality.
I don’t necessarily mind ads in and of themself, I just wish they were placed better and that you could elect to prevent certain ads that you find really annoying (like the cold beat maker midi packs and drip plugins 😉). I suppose that’s a never ending slippery slope though.
Leaving YouTube because of the ads (and not wanting to pay for content) is a valid position. Watching the ads rather than pay is understandable, too. But why would it be "comical" as some say here, to pay for an ad-free experience while still supporting the content creators?
Isn't it a more comical position to expect other people to produce and serve valuable content to you (so basically work for you) for free? 🤷
Exactly Charlie. Sometimes people have suggested to me using another platform where people would pay directly to watch vids. Absolute pipe dream, youtube unfortunately is the only semi feasible way. I don't like the current world we live in either but I am not sure what choice there is. People can't have regular in depth tutorials (doing those regularly really is a full time job) and expect someone to do it without community support of they choose to slip ads. Actually, youtube pays at least 50 percent (before tax of course) to creators. Problem is that iOS is just too small a niche. You need large channels with regular viewers. Even large iOS channels don't have many viewers. Compare the views on any recent vid on my channel to those on Dougs, which is ten times bigger, or Garage Band Guide, which is twenty times bigger. The views are similar. Large iOS channels that have been around for years are full of inactive subscribers.
Thing is too, youtube may know things about me from my ad watching but I don't think a youtube ad has ever convinced me to part with my money for something. I don't really give a damn what they know about me, they have no or very little power over me.
The otjer problem is that, as a youtuber, you have no idea really what it will be like til you have dived in, and it takes months and months or even years of work before you get monetized. Then you have no idea of what the monetization is gonna be like, or how generous people will be with donations. By this time you are already balls deep in the whole thing, major energy invested, friends made, appreciative fans, dreams of what the future could potentially hold. But for the vast majority it is a pipe dream. I will at some point make a video on this topic, I think it is important that people in the community are aware of the reality of the situation. In fact that is one video I am really looking forward to making, and I imagine it will produce a lot of discussion.
Point taken. As a graphic designer I expect to get paid. If I pay for premium how much goes to the creators? Am I not just paying google? Paying for their servers etc while video creators supply YouTube’s content for free. What portion of my subscription goes to those I’d support?
These are questions and not justifications or what I will choose.
A similar situation is going on in news & reporting - pittance of wages while the service “the newspaper” gathers all the profits while cutting coverage and corporate conglomeration.
The problem is not just a Gavinski one. The problem behind the problem is not just one persons problem.
Speaking of problems: corporations are legal fictions (not people) we can change and regulate - they are not your friend, tax them and the ultra rich, capitalism is not the same as a free market… seize the means of production viva le revolution
I see what you mean now about Youtube.
That’s a days rate for me when I was configuring pro studios.
As a session musician that’s half price without a % on the track.
Big respect for your output that’s a lot of effort.
🙏🏾
@Gravitas hardly seems fair doesn’t it.
Youtube music still shows regular youtube uploads by people in the wild but for what appears to be the uhh 'official' Youtube Music stuff (with the artists banners etc) sounds fine enough for me.
Thankfully I have no idea what you are talking about of course. I dropped off at 'the cardinal sin of EDM'.
I got no problem payin' El TubeO for protection.
Agreed.
No, it doesn’t seem fair at all.
It’s much like Spotify etc with their $0.0045 royalties for track plays.
If that % is out of date please correct.
I haven’t monetised my Youtube yet but it seems once
again that we’re doing this out of Love for the craft.
Still, it’s not going to put me off
I’m simply not going to put myself under pressure.
I use Ghostery or AdBlock for trying to cut down on some of the banners and tracking that goes on with a lot of sites. They are both hit or miss, usually they work great but every once in awhile (like a couple months back) the ad companies find workarounds and I start seeing banners on everything again until the ad blocking companies catch up. Cat and mouse isn't it?
Brave browser is another tool I use when I want to use StartPage for searching instead of feeding more info about me into the Google ad machine.
YouTube and ads are a tricky thing for me, as I see both sides of it. While I never got into making videos in order to make any money, it got to a point where I started making a little bit here and there and I started paying attention. However, even with thousands of followers of my channel and million views on my videos, the money I make is nothing compared to what I would make at pretty much any other job given the same amount of effort and time. I think being able to make a living as a YouTuber is probably harder than making a living as a musician these days. Just way more competition, which is nuts when you think about it.
Ultimately I grew to dislike the Google model of tracking everything I do along with anyone who watches my videos, so last year I turned off ads and monetization and will only make videos to be helpful going forward. I also have slowly stopped using all Google services for other products that are less intrusive on my privacy. Touchy subject I know as all the major players do it to some extent, thankfully Apple is better than most on this front.
I am way too cheap to pay for YouTube . So when a commercial comes on, i take out my phone and look at other stuff while the ads play. Most youtuber work like dogs to entertain us. The least I can do is let the commercial play out.
Also I am never logged in when watching YouTube. Does that help with tracking?
I just turn down the volume on ads until i can 'skip' - gives me (an imaginary) feeling of control!! As a musician I seem to get a lot of ear wax remover ads.....could be my age also..!
Now about app sales and revenue for ios developers…
(I want K-machine to come back -- it would be (is if you've got it) perfect for Visual Synth)
I've been using Better to block ads and web trackers for years now, and I like it. It's cross-platform (Mac/iOS) but you have to buy one version for each. It's not expensive or anything:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/better-by-ind-ie/id1080964978?ls=1
Unfortunately, it's not much help with YouTube ads, which seems to be the focus of the thread. Unless... Do people see ads in embedded videos? Like in the 'What are you listening to, is it good?' thread? I never see any in those situations, but I figured that was just how embedded videos worked. I refuse to turn off the ad blocker to check
For every good thing, there is an equal and opposite bad thing. It's how we carve reality out of the void. My go-to line of thinking on this is that it's just the reality of people. Everybody in the world has access to effectively all of the poetry ever written, but how many are reading it vs. porn and cat videos. The internet as it is, is a genuine expression of humanity. Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Aw, man... You're missing out on 'essays that inspire'.
I have the adguard browser extension, with every device in the house making DNS queries through a raspberry pi running adguard home, and that’s configured to use NextDNS for upstream DNS queries. I highly recommend NextDNS, it’s basically a DNS level adblocker. I also have Insight browser installed on iOS just for YouTube - it removes most ads in full screen mode seamlessly.
I don’t actually watch a great deal of YouTube though, and refuse to pay them twice as much as Netflix per month just for my kids to get endlessly shown horrifically inappropriate videos and to use a service that has been deliberately designed to be as annoying to use as possible on iOS browsers.
@colonel_mustard I have Better too, by Aral Balkan (this seems appropriate here: https://ar.al/2021/05/10/hell-site/ ) as good way to support his work but Wipr is more actively maintained.
In my world, companies like Google and Facebook have a complete lack of ethics and have ruined the original spirit of the internet. This is why I feel obliged not to support their business model at all. My message is not that I want to have their services for free but rather that they have to trait people as addicts (or try to turn us into that) and most of all, that they should respect privacy and intimacy.
As it is now, every minute you spend on their services is a minute they get to study you. Knowledge is power... figure out the rest.
@gavinski, when you started your channel I made an account on YouTube just to support your work but in the end I couldn't cope with "your boss". You say it yourself, it's such a hard work (and you always have to remind us of it, and ask for subscriptions and what not). Is it worth it? And is it better than the job you had before?
Then there is one more thing. Normally when launching a product a company would create an add or tutorial or some kind of promo. They would pay for it. Now it is as if we the "users" should also pay for the promotional content too?
Others have choose to create courses, like Subject Sound https://courses.subjectsound.comhttps://courses.subjectsound.com which I think is a well balanced alternative.
End of rant.
He's an interesting fella.
https://www.theawl.com/2015/06/a-complete-taxonomy-of-internet-chum/
Lots of options here, but Ad Guard with the basic free plan is pretty decent.
Oh no, since you don’t know the cardinal sin of EDM your music will never be pro!
I watch your vids through the YouTube app @Gavinski which doesn’t block ads unless you get Premium. I can’t lie I do sometimes skip, but I also watch them 50% of the time. I do that for about a dozen channels. Yours is obviously one of those. Keep up the great work man. The rest, heck ads in general though… ugggh.