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I just assumed that EDM was the cardinal sin.
Cheers buddy, of course I woukd expect no one to watch all the ads.
@despego for sure this doesn't pay as much as my regular job I was doing before and am still doing but in a very part time basis due to covid. I would earn that monthly youtube salary in a day or two of regular work. Unfortunately at the moment I have very little of that work to as the market is destroyed due to covid. So yeah, seriously considering abandoning the channel and just getting a new job, probably moving country too. Or at the very least changing the nature of my channel. No more walkthroughs on detailed apps unless they are sponsored. Free vids will only be on the easier stuff. No Aparillo, Chordjam, BeatCutter vids unless paid by the devs themselves. With youtube as a main job, It would take years to build it up to a liveable wage and I would then still be stuck with all the time pressure etc that goes with doing a channel like mine (essentially it is like being a news journalist, and the faster you are the higher the rewards). I don't do well with time pressure. Anyway, as I say, you only see the reality once you gave it a tey and it is a pretty ugly reality. The community is great and very appreciative, but man cannot live on subs, thumbs up and comments alone.
Another Gavinski thread!
I have never considered putting an ad-blocker on YouTube - if I like a video or channel I will tolerate the ads as they benefit the creator, but if I’m indifferent about the video I’ll probably stop it at the first ad (and maybe flag it as a video I don’t like or a channel I don’t want to get recommendations for).
I’m far more likely to put an ad-blocker on a browser after the years of intrusive and excessive advertising abuse that I (and everyone else) has had to put up with.
Amen. This is the way
By the way, I do hope that people who are so virtuously taking the moral high ground against youtube are also taking the moral high ground about things that may be less convenient - things like not driving or having children if you care about the environment and global heating etc 🤣. It's always easy to take the moral high ground when it suits one, less so when it doesn't...
Trying to avoid adverts for you and your kids is extremely inconvenient. You should start another thread about the other stuff.
I'm fine to leave this here, I've said all I want to say
If I want to support someone - such as @Gavinski - then I simply let the video play, ads and all, in another tab while I’m doing something else. Then I watch it and skip the ads.
I think @Gavinski is right when talking about other problematic areas of interest, I just don‘t think it‘s about some „moral higher ground“. It‘s about being human, and old enough to have realised how my own decisions in daily life are actually building the future… . For reference: I do post videos on youtube regularly (non-monetized) for years and have a website with my artworks for even the last twenty years, so I actually try to live after my own principals. It‘s not about being a cheapskate, it‘s about all-day morals that need to be followed to help construct a better world (I know, little little steps, but they are either done, or not…).
As far as I heard, youtube lately is reserving themselves the right to place commercials on ANY content on their site, irrespective of the poster‘s wish to monetize… (dependent on reach of the channel, I guess), now think about this for a moment…
I'll be honest and admit I'm vague on all the ins and outs of YouTube from the point of view of creators but I'm realising that it's a very thorny issue. I'm definitely not happy about targeting and trackers and such like and am very careful about checking security settings on social media platforms but understand that if I want to view interesting and useful content like @Gavinski and support the creators in a small way then there's a trade off...
Being a YouTube entity hasn't ever seemed like a viable career choice. Without more strings to your bow you're eternally beholden to their whims - if they want to demonetise your content, introduce ads every 30s or reduce payments to a fraction of current levels you're utterly powerless to do anything about it.
Sponsored content invariably means that the big guys win: those who can afford to pay people to make videos will do so; those who can't afford it won't get their work supported. In some instances, people who can't afford it will feel as though they have to pay to get videos made, ultimately meaning that they don't get paid sufficiently from their work to support the continued maintenance of it (causing more instances of abandonware and titles being pulled from the app store indefinitely)
When it comes down to such a numbers game we're back to the eternal norm of "rich folk get all the power" which never sits comfortably.
Nice points Pete. Being a youtube entity is a pretty viable career choice in many niches, but perhaps not in iOS, its just too small. For youtube ad revenue to be significant you need the numbers that iOS just doesn't look like it will get
am a musician. i know exactly what a musician gets from youtube - with or without adds - so do not make me laugh even more !
what you will get with this system is less and less “ creators “ ( as you call them ) and more and more people creating whatever content and more and more adds … which is exactly what is happening …
youtube is already making a huge amount of money on the back of “ creators “ … then on the top of that we have to lose our time watching those dumb ads which now also come in the middle of a song ! i repeat : in the middle of a song !!!
i am all to help guys like @Gavinski and i do … i sent his link to many people around …
the way it’s going, in two or three years, there will only be ads and nothing but ads … which is very far away from what youtube was supposed to be …
i do not think that if you put stickers on a bird’s wings, it will fly better
As many of us have said over the years - whether in response to the way Apple views people who make music on iOS devices, or in other contexts - we have to be realistic and accept that we're a niche within a niche.
Compare the number of people playing games, for example, with those making music on mobile devices and you begin to realise the economies of scale involved.
Well, that is a very unfortunate statement. From that point of view only saints and perfect people can do/talk moral?
Now you say it… (and I feel in part responsible for it).
The question was about what ad blocker to use, wasn’t it?
Some good suggestions there.
Sorry mate, what's your argument?
That you should get stuff for free? That you're generously sending Gavinski links to other people so they can watch the ads instead of you, so you're cool? That people who create stuff should not be called creators? That putting ads in the middle of clips feels like a personal affront to you? Or that a profit-oriented business like YouTube shouldn't be in it for the money? Or...? 🤷
since you enjoy ads so much, knock yourself out ! i don’t
Fair point. Thank you. I currently pay to not see ads on YouTube, especially in the middle of clips which I really hated, but otherwise your assessment is spot on. 👍
It’s worth mentioning that smaller YouTube channels (less than 1,000 subscribers among other requirements) have zero control over what ads are displayed, how many ads are shown, and where in a video ads appear.
Simple. Firefox + uBlock Origin + Pihole. And don't see videos on iPhone / iPad.
I haven't seen an ad in years on Youtube with this system.
Plus, I use Multicontainers on Firefox to avoid tracking.
I've been trying to be nice and watch those aggressively obtrusive ads to support content creators, especially after my ad blocker stopped working
But usually after about 45 mins I just can't take it anymore, so I either stop watching or download the whole video to my device and then watch it
Also, I've noticed that for some reason I almost never see ads in embedded videos. For example, if I paste a youtube link here in the comment field and click Preview, I can watch that video without any ads.
Yes, I also don't see ads if I watch an embedded video here, that's why I make a point of clicking through to youtube as soon as I make a decision whether I am going to watch or not
Unfortunately, most iOS devs don't make enough money themselves. And the number of new music apps released every month is on the low side. So I wouldn't get my hopes up
I've noticed some youtubers switched from ios apps to hardware reviews and tutorials, looks like there's more money there and definitely more subscribers/viewers
This.
You can not expect any sustainable revenue from such a little (and adorable !!!) crowd. I think it has very little to do with adblocking. So you might expecting too much of us, or you missed the market targeting somewhere, as least compared to your involvement.
Yes, that's why I'm considering stepping back my involvement, sadly.
Amd I agree about the adorable crowd. You definitely get the odd asshole here or there, but great folk for the most part 😉
C major? I got you!
With your impressive catalog of videos and quality content…. dayum, seems like you should be able to shop yourself around to big name desktop entities and get promo copies for these impressive adverts/tutorials. I mean, your Drum Computer vid got 14k views (around 7 times more than the iOS only videos of the time) which has to be attributed to desktop spill over. No chance of wading into desktop?
Cercube on my iPad and iPhone, uBlock Origin on my pooter.