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  • @Gravitas said:
    What @0tolerance4silence said +

    Midi mapping on
    Select blue bit to be mapped
    turn midi controller knob
    Midi mapping off

    Turn midi controller knob again
    If it doesn’t work
    Change settings

    ;)

    i've done this. No change. This is done with ONLY a launchcontrolXL attached.

    • Tap settings
    • Take over is turned off
    • Press map midi
    • Tap a knob in drambo
    • Turn pot 1 (cc21/midi channel 1) in User setup 1
    • Verified mapped
    • Switch to User setup 1
    • Tap a different knob in drambo
    • Turn the SAME pot 1 (cc32/midi channel 1)
    • Mapped
    • Switching between banks and turning knob - correct knob turns with value jumping
    • Go back to settings - enable takeover
    • Issue persists
    • Clear all mappings
    • Repeat the same process as above with the takeover enabled this time
    • Issue persists
    • Values jump
  • @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @Gravitas said:
    What @0tolerance4silence said +

    Midi mapping on
    Select blue bit to be mapped
    turn midi controller knob
    Midi mapping off

    Turn midi controller knob again
    If it doesn’t work
    Change settings

    ;)

    i've done this. No change. This is done with ONLY a launchcontrolXL attached.

    • Tap settings
    • Take over is turned off
    • Press map midi
    • Tap a knob in drambo
    • Turn pot 1 (cc21/midi channel 1) in User setup 1
    • Verified mapped
    • Switch to User setup 1
    • Tap a different knob in drambo
    • Turn the SAME pot 1 (cc32/midi channel 1)
    • Mapped
    • Switching between banks and turning knob - correct knob turns with value jumping
    • Go back to settings - enable takeover
    • Issue persists
    • Clear all mappings
    • Repeat the same process as above with the takeover enabled this time
    • Issue persists
    • Values jump

    See earlier comments.
    Bug reported.

  • @AlmostAnonymous yep we’re on the same page
    @Gravitas thanks for reporting!

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:
    Not working as expected...works same way weher enabled or not. Still value jumps.

    Same. :/

  • @NoiseFloored said:
    @AlmostAnonymous yep we’re on the same page
    @Gravitas thanks for reporting!

    No problem.

  • ive always know that was there. and i figured it was related to the relative assignments
    and that pots/faders were just unsupported as it had never worked for me.
    figured that woudl be coming in an update so never asked about it until now

  • wimwim
    edited September 2021

    Whoops. I posted a bug report over on the Beepstreet forum before reading the rest of the thread. Kinda redundant now.

  • I found a workable way to have "per-track" mapping for controls. By this I mean that the same eight knobs on my nanoKEY Studio can control what I want on whichever is the active track.

    To do this, on each channel I have eight CV Modulators set to the CC's coming from the controller. These then get linked to whatever it is I want to control. I collapse them behind a section module so they're out of the way.

    This works much better for a lot of things for me than midi learn mapping.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @wim said:
    I found a workable way to have "per-track" mapping for controls. By this I mean that the same eight knobs on my nanoKEY Studio can control what I want on whichever is the active track.

    To do this, on each channel I have eight CV Modulators set to the CC's coming from the controller. These then get linked to whatever it is I want to control. I collapse them behind a section module so they're out of the way.

    This works much better for a lot of things for me than midi learn mapping.

    You left out the key... make sure ‘Receives midi’ is set to ‘active track’ in track settings (default setting), but can mess things up)

    Brilliant! Will be trying this with the minilab tonight!

  • @wim said:
    I found a workable way to have "per-track" mapping for controls. By this I mean that the same eight knobs on my nanoKEY Studio can control what I want on whichever is the active track.

    To do this, on each channel I have eight CV Modulators set to the CC's coming from the controller. These then get linked to whatever it is I want to control. I collapse them behind a section module so they're out of the way.

    This works much better for a lot of things for me than midi learn mapping.

    Midi learn track preset save is on the list. I’ve been asking for it for a while now.

  • Unfortunately you can't package it up into a rack for convenience ... unless you only want to control things in the rack. I did anyway for quicker setup. Then I just copy/paste the modules outside the rack, or to wherever I want them.

  • @wim great tip, thanks!

  • I have a friend who is into folk music (she sings and plays guitar). Can I record her songs in Drambo?

  • wimwim
    edited September 2021

    @Simon said:
    I have a friend who is into folk music (she sings and plays guitar). Can I record her songs in Drambo?

    Yes, with limitations, but it's not a good tool for that. You can hammer in nails with a wrench, but ...
    There are lots of better options for that on iOS.

  • edited September 2021

    @wim said:

    @Simon said:
    I have a friend who is into folk music (she sings and plays guitar). Can I record her songs in Drambo?

    Yes, with limitations, but it's not a good tool for that. You can hammer in nails with a wrench, but ...
    There are lots of better options for that on iOS.

    What? I thought Drambo could do everything! Oh, how the mighty have fallen! :wink:

    P.S. I am only stirring. Pay no attention.

  • Works great wih my midi accordion

  • I don't understand people spending their energy finding things Drambo can't do or isn't optimal for. There are lots of things for which it isn't the optimal tool...and so what? There are lots of things for which it is great. And it won't appeal to everyone..which also says nothing a about Drambo.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    I don't understand people spending their energy finding things Drambo can't do or isn't optimal for. There are lots of things for which it isn't the optimal tool...and so what? There are lots of things for which it is great. And it won't appeal to everyone..which also says nothing a about Drambo.

    I'm mean this comment respectively and I'm speaking as someone who has at least one instance of Drambo in any of my projects.

    There's a tendency for Drambo threads to end up with Drambo users talking about Drambo being the answer to virtually anything you can throw at it. And Drambo threads intended for non Drambo users, have a tendency to end up as virtual Drambo user groups.

    Some wit within this thread (apologies, I forget who), commented that we need to add 'no Drambo solutions required' as a postscript to any thread titles requesting solutions to iOS audio workflows. To sum up, Drambo users can occasionally come across as a tad evangelical.

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:
    Works great wih my midi accordion

    LOL!

  • edited September 2021

    @jonmoore said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    I don't understand people spending their energy finding things Drambo can't do or isn't optimal for. There are lots of things for which it isn't the optimal tool...and so what? There are lots of things for which it is great. And it won't appeal to everyone..which also says nothing a about Drambo.

    I'm mean this comment respectively and I'm speaking as someone who has at least one instance of Drambo in any of my projects.

    There's a tendency for Drambo threads to end up with Drambo users talking about Drambo being the answer to virtually anything you can throw at it. And Drambo threads intended for non Drambo users, have a tendency to end up as virtual Drambo user groups.

    Some wit within this thread (apologies, I forget who), commented that we need to add 'no Drambo solutions required' as a postscript to any thread titles requesting solutions to iOS audio workflows. To sum up, Drambo users can occasionally come across as a tad evangelical.

    I have a similar feeling about Mosaic folk. Mosaic script for this and mosaic script for that. Yea cool, but I don’t do script…similar thing with streambyter. What I’m trying to say is that I understand where this slight sarky backlash is coming from but….for once I’m on the boat as opposed to off it so I’m enjoying the ride.

    Drambo IS awesome!

  • I really like Drambo, a lot... but I generally use it minimally for now.
    I think it's a great groovebox and multipurpose app. But I tend to much favour miRack for modular building.

    I like having more flexibilty with miRack and the included modules with different gui is more visually appealing to me and feels more like the real thing. I do get a bit tired of the monotonous visual style of Drambo and being stuck on these long thin lanes, but I think if you could scale the gui with more flexibility like Sunvox it could be on to a winner..

    But the great thing is you can work with all of these apps together which is the benefit of modular apps. :)

  • @Carnbot said:
    ...but I think if you could scale the gui with more flexibility like Sunvox...

    Interesting that you mention SnuOxv.

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/335172/#Comment_335172

    @u0421793 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    If I recall the locals here insist it is pronounced "S_nV_x".

    The logical criterion, or conceptual model, seems to have evolved as thus: If it is a thread actually about Sunvox, then we must refer to it by the full name Sunvox, for it is he.

    If it is a thread about something totally different, but halfway through everybody looks at each other and realises they could have saved all the bother and just used Sunvox, but nobody's brave enough to want to be the first to mention this, then this classes as a special sub-case of Godwin's Law, in which our unique modified outcome states that all threads will eventually devolve into mentioning Sunvox.

    This is why it is tip-toed around, nobody wants to just come straight out with it and say "of course you realise, if we'd actually started in sunvox instead…"

  • @colonel_mustard said:

    @Carnbot said:
    ...but I think if you could scale the gui with more flexibility like Sunvox...

    Interesting that you mention SnuOxv.

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/335172/#Comment_335172

    @u0421793 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    If I recall the locals here insist it is pronounced "S_nV_x".

    The logical criterion, or conceptual model, seems to have evolved as thus: If it is a thread actually about Sunvox, then we must refer to it by the full name Sunvox, for it is he.

    If it is a thread about something totally different, but halfway through everybody looks at each other and realises they could have saved all the bother and just used Sunvox, but nobody's brave enough to want to be the first to mention this, then this classes as a special sub-case of Godwin's Law, in which our unique modified outcome states that all threads will eventually devolve into mentioning Sunvox.

    This is why it is tip-toed around, nobody wants to just come straight out with it and say "of course you realise, if we'd actually started in sunvox instead…"

    mentioning S____x must mean the thread must be nearly complete...

  • I kinda look it at like this.
    Whilst waiting for a multi tap delay
    to drop I decided to put my own one together.
    16 delays with saturation, resonator,
    pan, flange and soon volume modulation
    per delay, I’m happy.
    Oh and I almost forgot, last night I added in
    a Buffer rescan module simply for the fun
    of it.
    I played guitar through it for about an hour non stop.

  • @Carnbot said:
    I really like Drambo, a lot... but I generally use it minimally for now.
    I think it's a great groovebox and multipurpose app. But I tend to much favour miRack for modular building.

    I like having more flexibilty with miRack and the included modules with different gui is more visually appealing to me and feels more like the real thing. I do get a bit tired of the monotonous visual style of Drambo and being stuck on these long thin lanes, but I think if you could scale the gui with more flexibility like Sunvox it could be on to a winner..

    But the great thing is you can work with all of these apps together which is the benefit of modular apps. :)

    Interesting, I found mirack too confusing, too many parts floating around and I had some graphic glitches while experience with Drambo was very linear and stable, even if I’ve been on the beta since v0.xx.

    @Gravitas is onto something that I found to be true for me. I could wait for someone to code my dream app or I could make it in Drambo without the need for coding.

    Anyway, this is just the beginning. Drambo is still a teenager. When Ableton first came out it was ugly and hardly anyone used it. Now it’s an industry standard for live performance. Just saying.

  • @supadom said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I really like Drambo, a lot... but I generally use it minimally for now.
    I think it's a great groovebox and multipurpose app. But I tend to much favour miRack for modular building.

    I like having more flexibilty with miRack and the included modules with different gui is more visually appealing to me and feels more like the real thing. I do get a bit tired of the monotonous visual style of Drambo and being stuck on these long thin lanes, but I think if you could scale the gui with more flexibility like Sunvox it could be on to a winner..

    But the great thing is you can work with all of these apps together which is the benefit of modular apps. :)

    Interesting, I found mirack too confusing, too many parts floating around and I had some graphic glitches while experience with Drambo was very linear and stable, even if I’ve been on the beta since v0.xx.

    @Gravitas is onto something that I found to be true for me. I could wait for someone to code my dream app or I could make it in Drambo without the need for coding.

    Anyway, this is just the beginning. Drambo is still a teenager. When Ableton first came out it was ugly and hardly anyone used it. Now it’s an industry standard for live performance. Just saying.

    Yeah it can be confusing, but there's a benefit to both approaches of these apps.
    I like the fact that I can build something in miRack, I'll get a good idea of what it will be like if I build (and operate it) in real life. So it's a good testing ground for Eurorack.
    I think the developer also mentioned he's planning a way of folding devices into compact modules, which will help reduce complexity too.

  • @Carnbot said:

    @supadom said:

    @Carnbot said:
    I really like Drambo, a lot... but I generally use it minimally for now.
    I think it's a great groovebox and multipurpose app. But I tend to much favour miRack for modular building.

    I like having more flexibilty with miRack and the included modules with different gui is more visually appealing to me and feels more like the real thing. I do get a bit tired of the monotonous visual style of Drambo and being stuck on these long thin lanes, but I think if you could scale the gui with more flexibility like Sunvox it could be on to a winner..

    But the great thing is you can work with all of these apps together which is the benefit of modular apps. :)

    Interesting, I found mirack too confusing, too many parts floating around and I had some graphic glitches while experience with Drambo was very linear and stable, even if I’ve been on the beta since v0.xx.

    @Gravitas is onto something that I found to be true for me. I could wait for someone to code my dream app or I could make it in Drambo without the need for coding.

    Anyway, this is just the beginning. Drambo is still a teenager. When Ableton first came out it was ugly and hardly anyone used it. Now it’s an industry standard for live performance. Just saying.

    Yeah it can be confusing, but there's a benefit to both approaches of these apps.
    I like the fact that I can build something in miRack, I'll get a good idea of what it will be like if I build (and operate it) in real life. So it's a good testing ground for Eurorack.
    I think the developer also mentioned he's planning a way of folding devices into compact modules, which will help reduce complexity too.

    I also have MiRack and what I like about the combination of both
    dRambo and MiRack is the ability to communicate between the two.
    I'm much more comfortable with the sequencing and modulation
    in dRambo and I love the modules that MiRack provides.
    They are both modular after all.

    One of the beta team is putting together MiRack modules and
    leaving them up on patchstorage providing easy access for users
    who have both.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    I don't understand people spending their energy finding things Drambo can't do or isn't optimal for. There are lots of things for which it isn't the optimal tool...and so what? There are lots of things for which it is great. And it won't appeal to everyone..which also says nothing a about Drambo.

    you are principal right. but I really donˋt understand why there is no easy way to record tracks like in AUM or at least the master-channel. i really love drambo but for such a great app a recording-option seems essential to me.

  • @banalytic said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    I don't understand people spending their energy finding things Drambo can't do or isn't optimal for. There are lots of things for which it isn't the optimal tool...and so what? There are lots of things for which it is great. And it won't appeal to everyone..which also says nothing a about Drambo.

    you are principal right. but I really donˋt understand why there is no easy way to record tracks like in AUM or at least the master-channel. i really love drambo but for such a great app a recording-option seems essential to me.

    I agree that it would be a great addition. I guess I wasn't clear in what I expressed. I wasn't suggesting that Drambo is a perfect app -- I just don't understand people who seem bitter about some people's enthusiasm for Drambo.

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