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  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @Skyblazer said:
    @supadom said:

    @ervin said:
    My grandfather lived by the simple rule that every DIY task can be completed with just a hammer and enough nails. This sometimes resulted in spectacular workarounds and hilarious family stories, but as a matter of fact he always prevailed.

    Some of the Drambo activists on this forum remind me of him. Yes, the solution may require patching in 27 modules (as opposed to the alternative which might be ticking a single box in the settings of another app), and at the end you may have to horizontal-scroll for 2.5 minutes, but "you can do it with Drambo". :smiley:

    While this is probably the main thing that keeps me from trying it I can totally imagine that it's my loss, and I have nothing but respect for you, Drambo people. 👊

    There is minimise feature to make your rack to only display the stuff you want. So you don’t have to scroll.

    There’s also foldable section module that allows you to errr fold sections ;).

    The third thing is that you don’t have to build the same thing from scratch. You can save your rack and next time you need that sound you can recall it. In fact you don’t even need to build anything because patchstorage is filled with ready synths, drum machines and effects. All you need to do is to learn how to use the sequencer which isn’t different from any other non-modular offering on iOS.

    The instrument below contains 17 modules. Once you’re done making it you don’t have to maximise it ever again.

    If you don’t want to make it, just download it here

    https://patchstorage.com/hang-in-there/

    This is no different from any other plug in you’d use in your Cubasis or Garage band. You save it in your rack or as an instrument preset and it will also be saved with your project.
    If you choose to use Drambo only using downloaded patches you actually don’t need to learn any of the modular synthesis at all.

    I tried downloading it, but Drambo crashes when I try to load the module.

    Hmmm…
    Drambo crashes for me too when I try to load this ”Hang” instrument…

    iPad Pro 12.9” M1 - iPadOS15 retail…

  • supadomsupadom

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    @Skyblazer said:
    @supadom said:

    @ervin said:
    My grandfather lived by the simple rule that every DIY task can be completed with just a hammer and enough nails. This sometimes resulted in spectacular workarounds and hilarious family stories, but as a matter of fact he always prevailed.

    Some of the Drambo activists on this forum remind me of him. Yes, the solution may require patching in 27 modules (as opposed to the alternative which might be ticking a single box in the settings of another app), and at the end you may have to horizontal-scroll for 2.5 minutes, but "you can do it with Drambo". :smiley:

    While this is probably the main thing that keeps me from trying it I can totally imagine that it's my loss, and I have nothing but respect for you, Drambo people. 👊

    There is minimise feature to make your rack to only display the stuff you want. So you don’t have to scroll.

    There’s also foldable section module that allows you to errr fold sections ;).

    The third thing is that you don’t have to build the same thing from scratch. You can save your rack and next time you need that sound you can recall it. In fact you don’t even need to build anything because patchstorage is filled with ready synths, drum machines and effects. All you need to do is to learn how to use the sequencer which isn’t different from any other non-modular offering on iOS.

    The instrument below contains 17 modules. Once you’re done making it you don’t have to maximise it ever again.

    If you don’t want to make it, just download it here

    https://patchstorage.com/hang-in-there/

    This is no different from any other plug in you’d use in your Cubasis or Garage band. You save it in your rack or as an instrument preset and it will also be saved with your project.
    If you choose to use Drambo only using downloaded patches you actually don’t need to learn any of the modular synthesis at all.

    I tried downloading it, but Drambo crashes when I try to load the module.

    Hmmm…
    Drambo crashes for me too when I try to load this ”Hang” instrument…

    iPad Pro 12.9” M1 - iPadOS15 retail…

    @Skyblazer has kindly re made it from screenshots I’ve sent to him because I made it with a beta version that had some graphic changes so I couldn’t fix it by simply removing beta modules.

    I still haven’t uploaded it though. I’ll let you know when I do though. Just doing some homework with my daughter atm. ;)

  • supadomsupadom

    Actually for now I just post it here. :smile:

  • ErrkaPettiErrkaPetti

    @supadom said:
    Actually for now I just post it here. :smile:

    @supadom said:
    Actually for now I just post it here. :smile:

    @supadom said:
    Actually for now I just post it here. :smile:

    👍👍👍

  • _smund_smund

    Alright, Looking for the general Drambo thread, you’re it! :)

    I dont want to come of as deadpan two posts in to this so I’ll say it upfront that I probably think Drambo Can have different pattern lengths, I Just have to think in 3/4 4/4 5/4 whatever, but I have a full plate..
    At this point I need a sequencer that can have the pattern length I want.
    Is it right that Drambo can’t play all instruments 16 steps on sequence/pattern 1, and 5 steps in sequence pattern 2?

    I want to make a techno setup in Drambo, and Run Loopy in there for guitar.
    Drambo has such a nice setup for modulation I would be silly not to try.

    So far I have not been able to have different pattern lengths. I thought to ask here first if it’s possible before I send a mail to the producers.

    What do you all think about this? I cant jump this math, I have to learn a lot of other stuff<3
    But tell me,
    KR
    Ås

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @_smund said:
    Alright, Looking for the general Drambo thread, you’re it! :)

    I dont want to come of as deadpan two posts in to this so I’ll say it upfront that I probably think Drambo Can have different pattern lengths, I Just have to think in 3/4 4/4 5/4 whatever, but I have a full plate..
    At this point I need a sequencer that can have the pattern length I want.
    Is it right that Drambo can’t play all instruments 16 steps on sequence/pattern 1, and 5 steps in sequence pattern 2?

    I want to make a techno setup in Drambo, and Run Loopy in there for guitar.
    Drambo has such a nice setup for modulation I would be silly not to try.

    So far I have not been able to have different pattern lengths. I thought to ask here first if it’s possible before I send a mail to the producers.

    What do you all think about this? I cant jump this math, I have to learn a lot of other stuff<3
    But tell me,
    KR
    Ås

    To answer your question; yes, you can easily set your pattern lengths.

    Check out these menus circled.

  • _smund_smund

    Hi gang for me it dosent work like that.

    In this video notice how after I change pattern length from 16 to 8 (Track two) it plays through itself twice before before the sequencer moves on.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/GrLqNJlQnwQ?si=FLdoI4oHlUKuURIb

    I would like to play 8 and move on. Is that easily possible without a workaround?

  • GravitasGravitas

    @_smund said:
    Hi gang for me it dosent work like that.

    In this video notice how after I change pattern length from 16 to 8 (Track two) it plays through itself twice before before the sequencer moves on.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/GrLqNJlQnwQ?si=FLdoI4oHlUKuURIb

    I would like to play 8 and move on. Is that easily possible without a workaround?

    The CLIP’s on that Pattern Lane remain the same length so it will repeat the Pattern length
    until the CLIP’s have fully played and then move on to the next Pattern length.
    If the CLIP’s on that Pattern lane were the same size then it would play 8 steps and then move on.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant
    edited February 20

    @_smund said:
    Hi gang for me it dosent work like that.

    In this video notice how after I change pattern length from 16 to 8 (Track two) it plays through itself twice before before the sequencer moves on.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/GrLqNJlQnwQ?si=FLdoI4oHlUKuURIb

    I would like to play 8 and move on. Is that easily possible without a workaround?

    So what I guess you want is for each individual track to have an 'unlocked' sequencer through the clips that isn't tied to keeping the project in sync.

  • _smund_smund

    @Gravitas
    Ty man, I see!
    Even if I am just using one track (with no information in the others), I have to manually change each track to the same length?

    Is that perhaps a smart starting point for the request to BeepStreet?
    -If there is only one instrument, (or the instruments used have the same length),
    Pattern length for that part of the song will automatically be set to the length of those, without having to change all instruments seperatly ( ? )

    In this short (but boring!) video I’m only using one instrument but pattern 2 plays twice before moving on.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/JXheVsKgPoo?si=ANnvXIJixAmOqsC0

    Is it a smart request? I don’t think I have the patience to change pattern length of 8 instruments for using one, if thats how it works

  • _smund_smund

    @Michael_R_Grant Hi, didn’t see your repo there before I answered. I think covered it.

    Basically I don’t like it if I have to manually change all the instruments to the same length to be able to have different pattern lengths

  • GravitasGravitas

    @_smund said:
    @Gravitas
    Ty man, I see!

    Cool.

    Even if I am just using one track (with no information in the others), I have to manually change each track to the same length?

    You can duplicate Pattern lanes to predetermine Pattern Lane length.

    Is that perhaps a smart starting point for the request to BeepStreet?
    -If there is only one instrument, (or the instruments used have the same length),
    Pattern length for that part of the song will automatically be set to the length of those, without having to change all instruments seperatly ( ? )

    The Pattern length determines the overall length that a Pattern Lane should play for.
    Note that the Pattern length automatically increases in size
    when a CLIP length gets longer than the current Pattern length.

    In this short (but boring!) video I’m only using one instrument but pattern 2 plays twice before moving on.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/JXheVsKgPoo?si=ANnvXIJixAmOqsC0

    Is it a smart request? I don’t think I have the patience to change pattern length of 8 instruments for using one, if thats how it works

    Put the request through over on the Beepstreet Forum and if it's needed then it will be implemented at some point.

  • bleepbleep

    Related: Long tap on the leftmost encircled "01" on the first pattern lane in clip matrix, and change > @_smund said:

    @Michael_R_Grant Hi, didn’t see your repo there before I answered. I think covered it.

    Basically I don’t like it if I have to manually change all the instruments to the same length to be able to have different pattern lengths

    Have you tried the leftmost cell in the clip matrix, the one with "01", "02", etc.? Long tap and change will set all track clips in that row to the chosen setting.

    • Change "Steps per beat" from 4 to 3. Now Drambo adjusts all clips in the row to have 12 steps, in 4 groups of 3. I believe this is called a 12/8 signature.
    • Change "Steps" to whatever. However ... I find this to be buggy. Trying to reduce the step count from 16 to 14, many taps on the -1 won't register. Eventually they do, but the end result is not 14 steps after all. Maybe it is just a UI glitch? Actually, I think it is, trying it now; Tapping twice on the -1, the UI still says 16 steps, but you actually now have 14 steps when counting the actual steps.

    I have mentioned propblems with these step counts at the beepstreet forum in the past. Doesn't seem to be top priority.

  • _smund_smund
    edited February 20

    @bleep
    Jesus man that seems pretty obligatory. IDK, with all the heaps and praise Drambo gets I’d think they would iron out some this type of stuff.
    I see they had 3 minor updates last 3 months, then it jumps to 1 year since last.

    I new here, I feel a but silly, but I still would like to ask if you guys know how they adress updates in regards to community feedback?
    I’m considering setting up all my synths in LP or Drambo, use LP for instruments (and synths sometimes) and 2.0 MIDI is on the rails.

    Fairly easy to set up alternations between smaller parts of a song in LP.

    Still it seems like you can get “a Ton done” in Drambo!

    A concern:
    Today when I changed to part two of a song in Drambo manually (I pressed 02 I think), the clock, “Beat”, lost tempo with the song and kept playing.

    Anything similar (loosing tempo, off kilter) happen with y’all using Auv3 synths? I should perhaps refrain from pressing parts of the song how I did that

    @Gravitas
    Do I still have to individually change all 8 instruments pattern length like in the video?
    (Boring vid 2)
    https://youtube.com/shorts/mW6KLdOaQHQ?si=lolJdDoTYOyvCgir

    Thanks all

  • GravitasGravitas

    @_smund said:
    @bleep
    Jesus man that seems pretty obligatory. IDK, with all the heaps and praise Drambo gets I’d think they would iron out some this type of stuff.
    I see they had 3 minor updates last 3 months, then it jumps to 1 year since last.

    Both Giku and the Beta Team worked trielessly for 3 years,
    life happens we all needed to take rest from providing free support and decided to focus on other things.
    The next few updates will show what we have been focused on.
    Giku irons out bugs as soon as he finds them alongside adapting to every yearly iOS update.

    I new here, I feel a but silly, but I still would like to ask if you guys know how they adress updates in regards to community feedback?

    www.Forum.Beepstreet.com

    I’m considering setting up all my synths in LP or Drambo, use LP for instruments (and synths sometimes) and 2.0 MIDI is on the rails.

    Fairly easy to set up alternations between smaller parts of a song in LP.

    Still it seems like you can get “a Ton done” in Drambo!

    We certainly can.

    A concern:
    Today when I changed to part two of a song in Drambo manually (I pressed 02 I think), the clock, “Beat”, lost tempo with the song and kept playing.

    On the right hand side of the screen are the Loop and Pattern change buttons.
    You can have the CLIP change by Pattern or Bar.
    Sounds like you were using Bar.

    Anything similar (loosing tempo, off kilter) happen with y’all using Auv3 synths? I should perhaps refrain from pressing parts of the song how I did that

    @Gravitas
    Do I still have to individually change all 8 instruments pattern length like in the video?
    (Boring vid 2)
    https://youtube.com/shorts/mW6KLdOaQHQ?si=lolJdDoTYOyvCgir

    Thanks all

    You're welcome.

  • _smund_smund
    edited February 20

    @Gravitas
    Hey G, I didn’t know you were working on it!
    Are Drambo in here? That is cool, I would suspect it.

    Thanks for enlightening me about “Loop/Pattern change” buttons

    G, with my boring Vid 2 I wanted to make sure If have to duplicate all instruments lanes manually?

    -Do I have to duplicate all 8 instrument lanes manually for it to work?

    I Just want to know 100% before I ask(:

    TY BTW, It is good to know there is a solution!
    I did try to google before I went yonder.

    I know iOS music apps probably dosen’t make you roll around in icecream toppings but In my defence they made the best midi sequencer available those 3 years, I thought it would be “best” for hardware as well and automatically have reach and footprint that way.

    I’ll search/make a forum post over at beepstreet.
    -It seemes like a valid concern to be able to make pattern changes without having to make 32 presses each time.

    it’s important to know the APP is active before you jump ship,

    Have as many breaks as you like guys, I should try to find a donate button for y’all to read my longass post

  • GravitasGravitas

    @_smund said:
    @Gravitas
    Hey G, I didn’t know you were working on it!

    I became a part of the dRambo beta team a couple months after it was released.

    Are Drambo in here? That is cool, I would suspect it.

    Thanks for enlightening me about “Loop/Pattern change” buttons

    No worries.

    G, with my boring Vid 2 I wanted to make sure If have to duplicate all instruments lanes manually?

    I haven't looked at it yet as I was in gospel rehearsal today.
    Yes, I'm singing a gospel song.

    -Do I have to duplicate all 8 instrument lanes manually for it to work?

    No, just duplicate when you need more.

    I Just want to know 100% before I ask(:

    No harm in asking. :)

    TY BTW, It is good to know there is a solution!
    I did try to google before I went yonder.

    The Beepstreet Forum will provide far better answers.
    There are more than enough forum members now to provide support
    and alongside that there's a bunch of stuff that you can look at in regards to learning dRambo.
    Midi Clock, sync, synthesis, effects processing and it goes on.

    I know iOS music apps probably dosen’t make you roll around in icecream toppings but In my defence they made the best midi sequencer available those 3 years, I thought it would be “best” for hardware as well and automatically have reach and footprint that way.

    Actually they do, I mentioned this in another thread recently.
    I've been quite active over the years in support the platform, iOS app users and iOS apps in general.
    I've done a ton of beta testing for many of the iOS apps as well.

    I’ll search/make a forum post over at beepstreet.

    Good move.

    -It seemes like a valid concern to be able to make pattern changes without having to make 32 presses each time.

    Agreed. ;)

    it’s important to know the APP is active before you jump ship,

    Agreed.

    The app is certainly active.
    There's the Beepstreet Forum, here on the Loopy Pro forum and we have 2k members in the dRambo FB group.
    I've also sighted dRambo on Mod Wiggler, KVAudio and the Elektron Forum.
    The Eurorack crew have also started delving into dRambo
    as a sequencer for their EuroRack rigs, myself included, and dRambo is making really nice ripples.
    There's a modular "group" stateside and all three of them use dRambo as a sequencer and effects processor.
    I can't remeber the group offhand however they do have a thread on the Beepstreet forum.
    I don't know if they use the synthesis side of dRambo.
    Take the leap, we'll catch you, no problem.

    Anyways, even if we don't have an update for another year personally speaking I'm cool.
    dRambo is at the heart of my personal sketching, composing rig and it's rock solid
    unless I do something that makes it crash and when I make it crash we fix it.

    Have as many breaks as you like guys, I should try to find a donate button for y’all to read my longass post

    Thanks. :)
    By the way
    I actually have a donation button.
    I'll get it.
    Here it is.

    paypal.me/IshmaelPamphille

    My real name is Ishmael Pamphille by the way.

    Ish to my friends. ;)

  • GravitasGravitas

    @_smund

    In regards to your 2nd video.

    Set the Pattern length in the Pattern lane so that all of the CLIP's have the same length.
    You can go in and adjust the individual lengths of CLIP's afterwards via the Button that has a pen angled on it.
    That Button is to the immediate right of the Looping section in the middle.

  • _smund_smund

    @Gravitas Thanks for the feedback.

    I’m looking around but I can’t find the way to do it..
    (: I googled a bit, the videos I found were to old I think.
    I would like to “set pattern length in the pattern lane”, does that make all 8 insts the same length? Can you help with a mark up and how to?

  • bleepbleep

    @_smund I wrote how to do that, just scroll up a bit. Here is the main part:

    Have you tried the leftmost cell in the clip matrix, the one with "01", "02", etc.? Long tap and change will set all track clips in that row to the chosen setting.

  • _smund_smund
    edited February 21

    @bleep There we go! Tremendous, hope to be on my way. TY

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