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  • The worst thing about YouTube has always been the criticism, which is abstracted and disconnected from the person doing the criticising. If I could know who is pressing dislike on my videos I at least have a chance to go after them and administer retribution, which at least is possible with comments. I would far prefer no means of pressing like or dislike – it isn’t important and only serves to cause me to hate my viewers, and hate not being able to punish them.

  • @FordTimeLord said:

    @Simon said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    I’m struggling to believe that Google and Facebook have a neo communist agenda. They’re all about ad revenue.

    Do you think they have a "political tone"?

    Yes, they lean toward the right

    That is factually incorrect. Alphabet (the parent company), Google, YouTube all lean Left.

  • @Simon said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @Simon said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    I’m struggling to believe that Google and Facebook have a neo communist agenda. They’re all about ad revenue.

    Do you think they have a "political tone"?

    Yes, toward the right

    Interesting view.

    I get the impression they are towards the left. Google's recent YouTube purge of right wing videos comes to mind. I don't think there was any purge of left wing videos (I could be wrong there though).

    I'm not a FaceBook person so I can't give any examples there.

    And Twitter banned Trump. Probably best not to go into that one - might start another war here on AB Forum :smiley:

    But I agree - they are totally about the money. Economic communism is not their goal.

    I prefer not to talk about politics on these forums, but, um, please:

  • @NeuM said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @Simon said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    I’m struggling to believe that Google and Facebook have a neo communist agenda. They’re all about ad revenue.

    Do you think they have a "political tone"?

    Yes, they lean toward the right

    That is factually incorrect. Alphabet (the parent company), Google, YouTube all lean Left.

    Yeah, of course they do. I stand corrected.

  • Since these companies undoubtedly embrace capitalism while allegedly leaning left, could it just be due to the simple fact that more of their market leans left?

    Does that mean that the right is deviant?

  • @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

  • @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    They did that with IDMb. I will never forgive them

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

    Read about cultural Marxism, you won’t find it in Saudi Arabia though.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2021

    I remember back in a high school social studies class back in the 70's, the professor told us that in certain middle eastern countries, if you gave someone a thumbs-up, it meant to "stick it up your ass", and you and your family would probably be hunted down and killed for the insult.

    Not sure that was true, but it always kinda stuck with me. :D

    [edit] ha! Googled it and it's true - at least about it being an insult in some regions.

  • @NeuM said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @Simon said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    I’m struggling to believe that Google and Facebook have a neo communist agenda. They’re all about ad revenue.

    Do you think they have a "political tone"?

    Yes, they lean toward the right

    That is factually incorrect. Alphabet (the parent company), Google, YouTube all lean Left.

    "Your opinion is factually incorrect because... ...my opinion." I have no idea where these companies lean btw, but I fully endorse this factual rebuttal. 😀

  • @u0421793 said:
    The worst thing about YouTube has always been the criticism, which is abstracted and disconnected from the person doing the criticising. If I could know who is pressing dislike on my videos I at least have a chance to go after them and administer retribution, which at least is possible with comments. I would far prefer no means of pressing like or dislike – it isn’t important and only serves to cause me to hate my viewers, and hate not being able to punish them.

    You have just won this thread, sir.

  • @ervin said:

    @NeuM said:

    @FordTimeLord said:

    @Simon said:

    @FordTimeLord said:
    I’m struggling to believe that Google and Facebook have a neo communist agenda. They’re all about ad revenue.

    Do you think they have a "political tone"?

    Yes, they lean toward the right

    That is factually incorrect. Alphabet (the parent company), Google, YouTube all lean Left.

    "Your opinion is factually incorrect because... ...my opinion." I have no idea where these companies lean btw, but I fully endorse this factual rebuttal. 😀

    Haha. B)

  • @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

    Read about cultural Marxism, you won’t find it in Saudi Arabia though.

    I am quite familiar with cultural Marxism, and don’t remember it having exclusive rights to totalitarian oppression.
    Perhaps I skipped that chapter?

  • @wim said:
    I remember back in a high school social studies class back in the 70's, the professor told us that in certain middle eastern countries, if you gave someone a thumbs-up, it meant to "stick it up your ass", and you and your family would probably be hunted down and killed for the insult.

    Not sure that was true, but it always kinda stuck with me. :D

    [edit] ha! Googled it and it's true - at least about it being an insult in some regions.

    I have worked for companies that have cultural training courses for employees who are traveling to other countries, particularly in Asia. The premise of the classes is to ensure that cultural differences don’t derail social interactions, particularly in cases like that one.

    Japan was an important one as I recall, mostly due to how important it is to listen to small details of conversations and understanding what they actually mean.

  • edited December 2021

    @michael_m said:

    @wim said:
    I remember back in a high school social studies class back in the 70's, the professor told us that in certain middle eastern countries, if you gave someone a thumbs-up, it meant to "stick it up your ass", and you and your family would probably be hunted down and killed for the insult.

    Not sure that was true, but it always kinda stuck with me. :D

    [edit] ha! Googled it and it's true - at least about it being an insult in some regions.

    I have worked for companies that have cultural training courses for employees who are traveling to other countries, particularly in Asia. The premise of the classes is to ensure that cultural differences don’t derail social interactions, particularly in cases like that one.

    Japan was an important one as I recall, mostly due to how important it is to listen to small details of conversations and understanding what they actually mean.

    I used to travel to China on business, coming from the US and having zero advance training on what to expect. Now there was a lesson in cultural differences. LOL. I liked Shanghai best. The people were essentially no different from those one would find in any large city around the world. Very urbane. And the reactions I used to get from using just a few select words of Shanghainese in conversation was great. I got the impression the people there didn't much care for their government in Beijing.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2021

    On my first business trip to Hsinchu, Taiwan in the 80's, the only hotel in town doubled as ... a brothel. Complete with mama-san on each floor.

    I had already heard about this but had one of the best times of my life playing dumb while the mortified HR lady tried to delicately explain what to expect before the trip and to by all means not open the door if any ladies knocked on it during the night asking if I would like some tea. :D

    good times.

    What were we talking about again?

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

    Read about cultural Marxism, you won’t find it in Saudi Arabia though.

    I am quite familiar with cultural Marxism, and don’t remember it having exclusive rights to totalitarian oppression.
    Perhaps I skipped that chapter?

    Perhaps you did - the one about hate speech. Go to my first post. Over and out.

  • @wim said:
    I remember back in a high school social studies class back in the 70's, the professor told us that in certain middle eastern countries, if you gave someone a thumbs-up, it meant to "stick it up your ass", and you and your family would probably be hunted down and killed for the insult.

    Not sure that was true, but it always kinda stuck with me. :D

    [edit] ha! Googled it and it's true - at least about it being an insult in some regions.

    I can second this. Back in the day, when trying to hitch-hike in Eastern Turkey, we were benevolently told to not use the thumbs-up sign for that very reason - it was apparently an insult. Once we changed to simply waving at cars, our efforts immediately became more successful. 🤣

    Cultural differences rule. :)

  • @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

    Read about cultural Marxism, you won’t find it in Saudi Arabia though.

    I am quite familiar with cultural Marxism, and don’t remember it having exclusive rights to totalitarian oppression.
    Perhaps I skipped that chapter?

    Perhaps you did - the one about hate speech. Go to my first post. Over and out.

    Why should I?
    It would be no less less reductive and simplistic the second time around.

  • @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

    Read about cultural Marxism, you won’t find it in Saudi Arabia though.

    I am quite familiar with cultural Marxism, and don’t remember it having exclusive rights to totalitarian oppression.
    Perhaps I skipped that chapter?

    Perhaps you did - the one about hate speech. Go to my first post. Over and out.

    Why should I?
    It would be no less less reductive and simplistic the second time around.

    …so just to help you out a bit, because I am pretty sure you didn’t delve into the topic:

    https://thepolicy.us/cultural-marxism-the-origins-of-the-present-day-social-justice-movement-and-political-correctness-ffb89c6ef4f1

    A nice, balanced article, with an optimistic conclusion that I don’t agree with..and just to cite:

    For example, Marcuse said “discrimination on the grounds of race should not be tolerated”.. A view I think that most rational people on either side of the aisle hold today.
    However, over time this became a call for affirmative action, demand for equal outcome (as opposed to equal opportunity), calls for reparations, and so on. To certain people, even citing statistical information regarding specific races is deemed “hate speech”. This is reflective of the egalitarian goals of Marxism.

  • @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:

    @JeffChasteen said:

    @zah7 said:
    One of the characteristics of (neo)communism is stopping people from being vocal about politically incorrect subjects, barring those who are calling a spade a spade, cancelling words and culture. I can see that communism is reborn. It is not so obvious, because it is clad differently, and it’s coming in different shapes and colors. I was raised in communism, so I know- it is like a disease.

    When it comes to yt, maybe you're partially right. It may be mostly about money, but I don't think it is only $ that giants such as Google or Facebook are after.

    If removing dislike button is a good thing, because we protect sensitive folks, then why don’t we remove comments too?

    Today I learned that Saudi Arabia practices “(neo)communism”

    Who would have thought it?!

    Read about cultural Marxism, you won’t find it in Saudi Arabia though.

    I am quite familiar with cultural Marxism, and don’t remember it having exclusive rights to totalitarian oppression.
    Perhaps I skipped that chapter?

    Perhaps you did - the one about hate speech. Go to my first post. Over and out.

    Why should I?
    It would be no less less reductive and simplistic the second time around.

    …so just to help you out a bit, because I am pretty sure you didn’t delve into the topic:

    https://thepolicy.us/cultural-marxism-the-origins-of-the-present-day-social-justice-movement-and-political-correctness-ffb89c6ef4f1

    A nice, balanced article, with an optimistic conclusion that I don’t agree with..and just to cite:

    For example, Marcuse said “discrimination on the grounds of race should not be tolerated”.. A view I think that most rational people on either side of the aisle hold today.
    However, over time this became a call for affirmative action, demand for equal outcome (as opposed to equal opportunity), calls for reparations, and so on. To certain people, even citing statistical information regarding specific races is deemed “hate speech”. This is reflective of the egalitarian goals of Marxism.

    So many words used when “ bias confirmation”
    would have been more than sufficient.

  • YouTube is down here in Montreal. Am I the only one?

  • edited December 2021

    @Tarekith said:
    A good counterpoint to why they should have left it:

    Absolutely. No context without the ratio.

  • edited December 2021

    They should go back to the 5 star scoring system.

    4 & 2 star reviews are always the most informative. I.e What was the reason for a star added or removed from the min/max.

  • I really cannot fathom the decisions these companies make, but they must have some rationalization for it… right?

  • edited December 2021

    @NeuM said:
    I really cannot fathom the decisions these companies make, but they must have some rationalization for it… right?

    Amazon will remove their rating system to replace it with an upvote and downvote system. But the downvote will me hidden on each item.

    I'm just kidding obviously, but the answer is always the same: money.

    Censorship is a new trend.

    Sans la liberté de blâmer, il n'est pas d'éloge flatteur. (a famous French quote that can be translate like this: "Without the freedom to blame, there is no flattering praise".)

  • wimwim
    edited December 2021

    @NeuM said:
    I really cannot fathom the decisions these companies make, but they must have some rationalization for it… right?

    It's usually not that hard to get to the bottom of, at least in my mind. Just follow the money.
    (And no, I don't claim that's a bad thing.)

  • This clip (#short video?) reminded me of this thread. 😼

  • please step back, narrative control & damage limitation in progress. thank you for your continued compliance & cooperation.

  • @ervin said:

    @u0421793 said:
    The worst thing about YouTube has always been the criticism, which is abstracted and disconnected from the person doing the criticising. If I could know who is pressing dislike on my videos I at least have a chance to go after them and administer retribution, which at least is possible with comments. I would far prefer no means of pressing like or dislike – it isn’t important and only serves to cause me to hate my viewers, and hate not being able to punish them.

    You have just won this thread, sir.

    Oh trust me, I'd love to know who the people - most likely from this forum - gave me a bunch of thumbs downs on a perfectly good video just because i had the audacity to experiment with posting it as a link rather than an embedded video. I definitely give them a thumbs down, whoever they are 🤪

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