Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.

What is Loopy Pro?Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.

Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.

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  • @Ailerom said:

    @tja said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Has the beta ended? I updated via Testflight but it seems to have downloaded the release, i.e., no recording without buying. I will buy but might be in a couple of weeks. Or minutes. Depends how strong my resolve is.

    buyyy it
    buyitttttt
    justbuuuuyy
    dontwaiiit

    I don't know why but I have this nagging feeling I should buy it.

    @ronnieb said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Has the beta ended? I updated via Testflight but it seems to have downloaded the release, i.e., no recording without buying. I will buy but might be in a couple of weeks. Or minutes. Depends how strong my resolve is.

    You don’t actually purchase the IAP in the beta, it won’t actually charge you anything.

    But if you do like the app (which you will), do consider supporting Michael on this sooner rather than later if possible, he’s already put in a mind numbing amount of time and effort into this.

    I will for sure. It's just that I've put a mind numbing amount of time and effort, but mostly money into the family Christmas this year. I might be a beta boy for a bit longer.

    Beta boy
    Beta boy
    Hit that perfect beta boy
    Hit that perfect
    Hit that perfect
    Hit that perfect beta beta boy
    I've got that feeling
    That beta boy feeling
    That perfect feeling
    All over me

    RIP Steve

  • @ronnieb said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @ronnieb said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yes, but I think he assumed I was asking the same thing that you thought, size of the overall buffer and not wether or not you could capture a portion of that buffer on the fly, again ala Endlesss. I assume at this point that it cannot be done.

    Not able to test atm but I think you could just setup 4 buttons to retrospective record for 1/2/4/8 bars no?
    Or what I have is separate clips for each length. I am certain if you spend some time with the widgets you could figure out a way to implement this that works for you.

    I think that is still different though because then you are still locked in at that point to committing to filling X bars.

    Not if you’re using retrospective recording which is what endless is doing. My super basic bare bones auv3 template kinda does this. The orange clips are standard recording, the yellow clips are set to retrospective record, top row has specific lengths and the bottom just follow the master cycle. Is this not similar to what you’re looking for?

    Nice, that's pretty ace, mate!

  • @gregsmith said:
    One thing I’ve been struggling with is monitoring.

    Whilst recording my latest session, I had the problem with au’s being recorded ‘double’ whilst playing them. Once from their own strip, and once from the colour strip they’re targeted to.

    If I mute the au strip it doesn’t play anywhere I don’t think.
    If I turn off targetting the colour, then of course it doesn’t record on a donut.
    If I turn off output 1+2 on the au strip and just target the colour, I can’t hear it at all when I’m playing it.

    Monitor through to the rescue? Probably, but if I monitor through a colour or 1+2 it records twice again.

    I’m a bit stuck and not really understanding. I want the audio to be recorded when playing the initial loop of course, but just not doubled up.

    Edit: when I say recorded, I mean the main recording button, not to anywhere specific. Maybe I need to just select all the colours to record apart from a monitoring colour??? I’d be interested to hear what others are doing

    I think it's 'cos you're recording 'Combined Output', which includes your monitoring right now. I might rejig that to make it a bit easier to understand - maybe make combined output exclude monitoring altogether, and 'combined input/output' intelligently select either the original input source or the monitor. Added to my list.

  • @celtic_elk said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @tathakadipuram said:
    You can literally recreate all the hardware loopers in it in minutes.

    In the interest of accuracy: no, you can’t. I own several hardware looping devices, none of which can (yet!) be properly emulated with LP.

    What can't you do, out of interest? (Aside from reverse!)

    Reverse, tape-style pitch/speed changes, and feedback control on overdub are the basics. If you want to claim that LP can recreate all of the hardware loopers, then really you’d need to go a lot deeper than that (see: the Echoplex Digital Pro feature set, currently available in the Glou-Glou Loupé and the Poly Beebo), but the lack of those specific features separates LP from a whole host of hardware looping devices (and a number of software loopers, like Enso or Gauss).

    Yeah, just you wait 😆 All that stuff is on its way.

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yeah, bit late to the party here, but there's no reason you can't make 4 button widgets do this for you. Just set each one to set the master clock length to the number of bars you desire, then trigger retro record (I'll be adding a "Next Blank Track" target for record actions soon, too, which will make this even easier).

    You'll want to start your project with the longest retro length you wanna use, then you can set it back; Loopy will never shrink the history buffer, but it keeps it small by default to not use too much memory. So you need to stretch it out, then you're all set.

  • @Kashi said:

    @Pierre118 said:

    @Kashi said:
    How do I disable the mic?

    in the Apple settings/Loopy Pro you can disable the mic.

    Thanks. Yes that works but seems like a weird workaround no? What if I want to work with a bunch of audio and then I spontaneously want to add some voice? Do I really have to go into settings and enable the mic and then back into LP and then carry on jamming? Is there really no way of quickly achieving this within the app? Seems counter-intuitive to me 🤔

    You can mute/unmute the track with mic input on it.

  • @Michael said:

    @celtic_elk said:
    Reverse, tape-style pitch/speed changes, and feedback control on overdub are the basics. If you want to claim that LP can recreate all of the hardware loopers, then really you’d need to go a lot deeper than that (see: the Echoplex Digital Pro feature set, currently available in the Glou-Glou Loupé and the Poly Beebo), but the lack of those specific features separates LP from a whole host of hardware looping devices (and a number of software loopers, like Enso or Gauss).

    Yeah, just you wait 😆 All that stuff is on its way.

    I’m a-quiver with antici…. 🤣👍

    And congrats, Michael! This is a tremendous piece of work.

  • @Michael said:

    @gregsmith said:
    One thing I’ve been struggling with is monitoring.

    Whilst recording my latest session, I had the problem with au’s being recorded ‘double’ whilst playing them. Once from their own strip, and once from the colour strip they’re targeted to.

    If I mute the au strip it doesn’t play anywhere I don’t think.
    If I turn off targetting the colour, then of course it doesn’t record on a donut.
    If I turn off output 1+2 on the au strip and just target the colour, I can’t hear it at all when I’m playing it.

    Monitor through to the rescue? Probably, but if I monitor through a colour or 1+2 it records twice again.

    I’m a bit stuck and not really understanding. I want the audio to be recorded when playing the initial loop of course, but just not doubled up.

    Edit: when I say recorded, I mean the main recording button, not to anywhere specific. Maybe I need to just select all the colours to record apart from a monitoring colour??? I’d be interested to hear what others are doing

    I think it's 'cos you're recording 'Combined Output', which includes your monitoring right now. I might rejig that to make it a bit easier to understand - maybe make combined output exclude monitoring altogether, and 'combined input/output' intelligently select either the original input source or the monitor. Added to my list.

    Lovely stuff! 👍

  • @Michael said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @tathakadipuram said:
    You can literally recreate all the hardware loopers in it in minutes.

    In the interest of accuracy: no, you can’t. I own several hardware looping devices, none of which can (yet!) be properly emulated with LP.

    What can't you do, out of interest? (Aside from reverse!)

    Reverse, tape-style pitch/speed changes, and feedback control on overdub are the basics. If you want to claim that LP can recreate all of the hardware loopers, then really you’d need to go a lot deeper than that (see: the Echoplex Digital Pro feature set, currently available in the Glou-Glou Loupé and the Poly Beebo), but the lack of those specific features separates LP from a whole host of hardware looping devices (and a number of software loopers, like Enso or Gauss).

    Yeah, just you wait 😆 All that stuff is on its way.

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yeah, bit late to the party here, but there's no reason you can't make 4 button widgets do this for you. Just set each one to set the master clock length to the number of bars you desire, then trigger retro record (I'll be adding a "Next Blank Track" target for record actions soon, too, which will make this even easier).

    You'll want to start your project with the longest retro length you wanna use, then you can set it back; Loopy will never shrink the history buffer, but it keeps it small by default to not use too much memory. So you need to stretch it out, then you're all set.

    Here's my main template that puts the retrospective stuff within easy reach. The buttons on the top set the master clip length. The master clip settings are not set to retrospective, so normally recording isn't in that mode. But, when I want to dump something I've been playing in retrospectively, I tap the Retrospective button, followed by the donut I want to dump it into. It works really, really well.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @amaury said:
    Hello @Michael, I just installed Loopy Pro it it looks amazing! For my use, it may become the main app to then host other instruments and effects apps.

    I’m using the iPad with a SP 404 MKII (fairly new so I’m exploring workflows). One thing that I find out is that to record a rythmical sample in the SP and start the recording “in time”, it seems beneficial to have the SP as the master clock.

    The reason is that I can start the recording by pressing a pad on the SP, so it starts on time. The opposite isn’t true, if I start an app that sends sync to the SP, the pad (pattern) doesn’t start.

    So, long story short, I’d love to be able to use Loopy Pro as a MIDI clock slave, and from what I see it isn’t available. I know it’s hard to talk about future plans but it’s worth a try - would you consider offering MIDI clock slave capabilities?

    Cheers and congratulations are in order, stunning release!

    PS: I hope it's not a redundant question, I haven't read the whole thread!

    For the time-being, use something like Audiobus or midi link sync to convert midi clock to Ableton link.

    https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/link-to-midi/id1066216595

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  • @tja said:

    @wim said:

    @Michael said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @tathakadipuram said:
    You can literally recreate all the hardware loopers in it in minutes.

    In the interest of accuracy: no, you can’t. I own several hardware looping devices, none of which can (yet!) be properly emulated with LP.

    What can't you do, out of interest? (Aside from reverse!)

    Reverse, tape-style pitch/speed changes, and feedback control on overdub are the basics. If you want to claim that LP can recreate all of the hardware loopers, then really you’d need to go a lot deeper than that (see: the Echoplex Digital Pro feature set, currently available in the Glou-Glou Loupé and the Poly Beebo), but the lack of those specific features separates LP from a whole host of hardware looping devices (and a number of software loopers, like Enso or Gauss).

    Yeah, just you wait 😆 All that stuff is on its way.

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yeah, bit late to the party here, but there's no reason you can't make 4 button widgets do this for you. Just set each one to set the master clock length to the number of bars you desire, then trigger retro record (I'll be adding a "Next Blank Track" target for record actions soon, too, which will make this even easier).

    You'll want to start your project with the longest retro length you wanna use, then you can set it back; Loopy will never shrink the history buffer, but it keeps it small by default to not use too much memory. So you need to stretch it out, then you're all set.

    Here's my main template that puts the retrospective stuff within easy reach. The buttons on the top set the master clip length. The master clip settings are not set to retrospective, so normally recording isn't in that mode. But, when I want to dump something I've been playing in retrospectively, I tap the Retrospective button, followed by the donut I want to dump it into. It works really, really well.

    Ohhhhh

    I like that :) :) :)

    Would be great to see that on any portal for download :D

    +1!

  • @Kashi said:
    How do I disable the mic?

    Mute it in the mixer, or swipe up on the mic icon at the top of the mic channel in the mixer to remove that channel altogether. Or for quick on/off, add a button to your layout and create an action (under audio source actions, in the widget’s action menu) to mute/unmute it without going into the mixer.

  • @tja said:

    Ohhhhh

    I like that :) :) :)

    Would be great to see that on any portal for download :D

    Here it is in the meantime, if you're interested. Could be buggy, but seems to be working fine. The faders and XY pad don't have any actions linked to them so they can be used for anything. The button with the "pages" icon has three functions. Double-tap copies to a new, empty page. Swipe Left shows the previous page (if any), and Swipe Right shows the next page (if any).

    This template could be expanded to have more loops, but I like keeping the size larger, and I also have a DIY 4x4 button controller that I plan to use it with.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/wx3bx15nbhljdar/4x4 Grid with Scenes v0.2.lpproj?dl=0

  • @ronnieb said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @ronnieb said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yes, but I think he assumed I was asking the same thing that you thought, size of the overall buffer and not wether or not you could capture a portion of that buffer on the fly, again ala Endlesss. I assume at this point that it cannot be done.

    Not able to test atm but I think you could just setup 4 buttons to retrospective record for 1/2/4/8 bars no?
    Or what I have is separate clips for each length. I am certain if you spend some time with the widgets you could figure out a way to implement this that works for you.

    I think that is still different though because then you are still locked in at that point to committing to filling X bars.

    Not if you’re using retrospective recording which is what endless is doing. My super basic bare bones auv3 template kinda does this. The orange clips are standard recording, the yellow clips are set to retrospective record, top row has specific lengths and the bottom just follow the master cycle. Is this not similar to what you’re looking for?

    Hmmm, I can’t really tell based on the screenshot or what people have said but the overall confidence has me now kicking off the 7 day trial to give it a go and try for myself.

  • @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:
    How do I disable the mic?

    Mute it in the mixer, or swipe up on the mic icon at the top of the mic channel in the mixer to remove that channel altogether. Or for quick on/off, add a button to your layout and create an action (under audio source actions, in the widget’s action menu) to mute/unmute it without going into the mixer.

    Thanks @suitsus , sorted now

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  • edited December 2021

    @Michael Using Loopy Pro as a AU3 I’m not seeing document picker only clipboard that doesn’t seem to shown anything.?

    Also if I use Loopy Pro in standalone mode if I choose to sample from iTunes if I hit import it’s asking me to tap a clip to import but not showing my clips ?

    iPad Pro latest iOS.

    See screenshots below.

    Am I missing anything or do I have a bug !


  • edited December 2021

    Having some lunch time fun with LoopyPro and SampleWiz2:

    Now to export these Loops into Drambo and take them to a new dimension ;) This is why I am loving LoopyPro!

  • edited December 2021

    @AudioGus said:

    @ronnieb said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @ronnieb said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yes, but I think he assumed I was asking the same thing that you thought, size of the overall buffer and not wether or not you could capture a portion of that buffer on the fly, again ala Endlesss. I assume at this point that it cannot be done.

    Not able to test atm but I think you could just setup 4 buttons to retrospective record for 1/2/4/8 bars no?
    Or what I have is separate clips for each length. I am certain if you spend some time with the widgets you could figure out a way to implement this that works for you.

    I think that is still different though because then you are still locked in at that point to committing to filling X bars.

    Not if you’re using retrospective recording which is what endless is doing. My super basic bare bones auv3 template kinda does this. The orange clips are standard recording, the yellow clips are set to retrospective record, top row has specific lengths and the bottom just follow the master cycle. Is this not similar to what you’re looking for?

    Ahh OK, after giving the trial a try it does look like you all were correct and it does work like endlesss. i was under the false impression that you were possibly locked to the clip you specified but you can dump the chunk of buffer to whatever clip (at whatever length) you choose.

    Alrighty, so now I wait and see if/how the timeline stuff (automation, clip editing with fades and reverse etc?) evolves.

  • @wim said:

    @Michael said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @celtic_elk said:

    @tathakadipuram said:
    You can literally recreate all the hardware loopers in it in minutes.

    In the interest of accuracy: no, you can’t. I own several hardware looping devices, none of which can (yet!) be properly emulated with LP.

    What can't you do, out of interest? (Aside from reverse!)

    Reverse, tape-style pitch/speed changes, and feedback control on overdub are the basics. If you want to claim that LP can recreate all of the hardware loopers, then really you’d need to go a lot deeper than that (see: the Echoplex Digital Pro feature set, currently available in the Glou-Glou Loupé and the Poly Beebo), but the lack of those specific features separates LP from a whole host of hardware looping devices (and a number of software loopers, like Enso or Gauss).

    Yeah, just you wait 😆 All that stuff is on its way.

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

    Someone else might know different.

    Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

    Yeah, bit late to the party here, but there's no reason you can't make 4 button widgets do this for you. Just set each one to set the master clock length to the number of bars you desire, then trigger retro record (I'll be adding a "Next Blank Track" target for record actions soon, too, which will make this even easier).

    You'll want to start your project with the longest retro length you wanna use, then you can set it back; Loopy will never shrink the history buffer, but it keeps it small by default to not use too much memory. So you need to stretch it out, then you're all set.

    Here's my main template that puts the retrospective stuff within easy reach. The buttons on the top set the master clip length. The master clip settings are not set to retrospective, so normally recording isn't in that mode. But, when I want to dump something I've been playing in retrospectively, I tap the Retrospective button, followed by the donut I want to dump it into. It works really, really well.

    This is why videos are always great.. don’t have a clue what you’re talking about … but his looks great…

  • @tja said:
    Got, it :) :) :)

    Loaded into Loopy Pro and archived to OneDrive.

    Those "Pages" feature for new pages and switching between them, is just incredible!
    I had no idea that this was possible at all... I thought, we only ever get one page!

    It's even better than that. You can choose to copy content to another page, to switch (stop playing the current page, switch and start playing the new one), Solo (Switch and play while stopping all other pages), Start and Stop (Start/Stop playing without switching to the page). And you can add any other action to happen at the same time, such as changing tempo, etc.

    Those 4 scenes and 16 loops are perfect for me ... the size is just ideal.

    One question about the Start / Stop button:

    I thought that the Start/Stop button then starts and stops the current page, while other pages continue playing, but that does not seem to be the case.
    So this button is basically the same as the App's Play button?

    Basically the same, just bigger, so easier to tap. However it has added functionality. A basic press resets the timeline to the beginning, while a long-press doesn't reset the timeline but only pauses it.

    And I don't understand the Retrospective button.
    It records all of the currently playing loops into a new donut?

    Retrospective is a way of capturing a buffer to a loop even if you weren't recording at the time. For instance, you can have a project playing, and noodle around playing. When you get a phrase down that you want to keep, you can hit the retrospective button then tap a loop. The buffer will be dumped into that loop. The buttons to the left (or the main metronome settings dialog) set the buffer length.

    I mainly use this when I'm working on the next idea. I'll play around until I have the idea in my head, think of how many bars the phrase is, hit one of the length buttons. Then I play until I get it just right, tap the Retrospective button, then tap a loop. You can also tap the Retrospective button beforehand, but I find the 'bouncing' that the screen does while waiting for a loop to be tapped distracting.

    Retrospective recording doesn't require a button like this. You can set it either at the master level, for a color, or for an individual loop. I just like to have the flexibility to easily use it when the mood strikes me but have the default behavior off.

    Intro, outro, and effect tails don't work with Retrospective recording, so that influences when it's appropriate as well.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2021

    @RajahP said:

    This is why videos are always great.. don’t have a clue what you’re talking about … but his looks great…

    I know, but I don't feel like taking the time to do that.

  • Would a widgety window that shows the retrospective buffer as a waveform (with markers for length) be possible? I just envision myself panicking to hit the right loop length and getting it wrong.

  • @wim that looks great… I was not able to load the project, got an error when I load direct from Dropbox and won’t even open when I save the project in iOS Files app.

    Anyone have some tips for importing shared projects?

  • @AudioGus said:
    Would a widgety window that shows the retrospective buffer as a waveform (with markers for length) be possible? I just envision myself panicking to hit the right loop length and getting it wrong.

    Undo.

    An Endless style method would be fantabulous. I wouldn't be surprised if something like that comes at some point.

  • @Hmtx said:
    @wim that looks great… I was not able to load the project, got an error when I load direct from Dropbox and won’t even open when I save the project in iOS Files app.

    Anyone have some tips for importing shared projects?

    What is the error?
    @tja, how did you manage it?

    Sorry, I haven't tried importing any projects.

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  • edited December 2021

    @AudioGus said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @Kashi said:

    @suitsus said:

    @Kashi said:

    You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

    Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

    Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

    Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

    Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

    I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet. ;)

    You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

    I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

    Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

    What I think you need to do is to set up 4 individual loops that are being fed 1, 2, 4 and 8 bars in terms of retrospective recording (set this in their individual options by swiping up on the loop and going into the settings). You can label these with text to help you remember which is which. Then when you know the length you want after playing, press the loop that corresponds with the length you want and the retrospective recording will zap into it.

    I THINK that’s what you do anyway… I should try it out!

    EDIT: I should also read up to date in the thread in order to avoid saying the same thing as 10 million other people… :D

  • wimwim
    edited December 2021

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    What I think you need to do is to set up 4 individual loops that are being fed 1, 2, 4 and 8 bars in terms of retrospective recording (set this in their individual options by swiping up on the loop and going into the settings). You can label these with text to help you remember which is which. Then when you know the length you want after playing, press the loop that corresponds with the length you want and the retrospective recording will zap into it.

    I THINK that’s what you do anyway… I should try it out!

    That sounds like an excellent solution. B)
    After recording just drag the loop contents to another position to clear out the buffer. Nice!

    Humm ... you could even make a button that would dump into all of them, giving the requested wave display, drag the one you want to somewhere else, then maybe double-tap the button to clear all the loops. Doing it this alternative way would mean playback would be interrupted though since you wouldn't want all of those loops to start playing at the same time.

    @AudioGus - bottom line is there is probably a way to make it work pretty close to what you're looking for.

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