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My issues are from when they were actually there and running things, but I’m over it at this point.
Speaking of Ess, he denied any involvement in the Syntakt after I posted my made-up story on how it was created.
He designed the FM synth engines for the Digitone and Model:Cycles, then started Fors, which sells Ableton plugins. He also did something for M8 Tracker - dunno if he had anything to with the M8s FM instrument or if he's just an enthusiastic user who makes music on the M8.
I think what Andrew Huang did with Syntakt fullfils definition of "musical" pretty much ;-)
A bit too much crossover, sound wise for me with my Model Cycles. I know it’s more powerful and versatile, especially with the FX and the Analogue engines though. I hope they bring out a third in the Model line to compliment my other two.
I was looking for a good drum synth a few weeks ago, and gave up. I thought I might just as well sample DrumComputer into Ableton or the Digitakt.
I’m still quite tempted, but I think I’ll wait until I can try one out.
Thanks for that BTW, glad you found them useful.
Randomization of the voice/instrument looks easy to use. Appears around 4:00
Oh yeah it begins. Really versatile... very musical. Great video and this dude knows the stuff.
Is there any alternative for same/less money in the department of drumming on a hardware box.
I have two questions to this though
1) can I use 8 machines with chords in this? 8 times 3 notes per chord!? Don't think so
2) is this basically a sugar bytes drumcomputer in a box?
Playing with MPC One. I could see how this pairing would work for some. MPC One has a drum synth plugin of its own, but it has some quirks like no choke groups, and no analog anything. OTOH, it's got the sampling that the other box doesn't have, and playable pads.
1) yes you can, chords are always 4 notes though, and you can vary the content
2) it’s hard to compare... even without the analog side - analog fx bus and analog ‘machines’ - it’s a more capable synth, but drumcomputer can do samples, so can sound like anything... on the other hand Syntakt (or any drum machine) can benefit a lot from p-lock and sound lock feature.
As a cheap option Volca Drum is pretty capable.
i don't see reason for such limitation.. from what i understamd digital machines are all equal so you can use any of them on any number of 8 digital channels.. so yeah, also 8x chord machine
Yeah i can see in future Model:Tones with polyphonic VA/Wavetable synth engine :-) 4 voice per track poly :-)
Strange, the loopop video made me really want one, and Andrew Haung's video made me not want one, esp when he demoed the machines.
Pros: 8 digital tracks with machines inspired by MD and M:C. 4 analog tracks with machines inspired by AR. 1 analog FX track inspired by A4. Global digital effects. Extremely powerful step-sequencer with lots of tricks. Is Syntakt an excellent value?
Cons: 30+ machines, each with a limited palette, unlike MnM. More focused on drum sounds than keyboard sounds (I need more keys, not drums, and Syntakt's SY machines seem limited, like the M:C). Extremely powerful and deep menu system; workflow may be an issue for my brain.
I guess I need to get one in my hands.
Sorry for thinking out loud.
I was really hoping for Sparkle Mountain pt 2 from Andrew.....
That’s the respective quality of different music YouTubers for you!
Thanks man and @dendy
its really an interesting box. but I think I need one in a store to play around and see if it fits.
I wanted to say to @StudioES Don't underestimate the power of FW updates. Digitone got some really really cool ones which I deeply enjoy. so elektron listens and I don't see a reason why not more machines are down the road possibly (maybe even more melodic and musical beside drums). as elektron sells this as groove box... hm why not enhancing the value with some thousand lines of codes in following months and years
@david_2017 So true, the recent DT+DN updates were awesome, but I was (stupidly) expecting the Digitakt 'Drum Computer & Sampler' to get some of the MD's machines because of 'drum computer' in its name. And AR machines to get some of those blank parameters filled.
I just want all of MnM's machines in a 'Takt box, with a focus on synth tones rather than drum takts. Wishful thinking.
I assume the class compliant audio part (not overbridge) is still the same as the other digi? 2x2?
I’d be on it like a shot 😋
Model cycles is Elektron’s own much cheaper version. Contains a lot of the same digital models.
You think Id be better off with a Cycles instead of volca drum and modular. These are more esotoric for sampling than the cycles but do think I have enough apps for that sound but dont want to miss the option of an esotoric sample. Plus I havent really used the volcas from buying. What Id maybe need and said. That I dont need hardware drums because its not part of my system. Is a machine thats ok next to an ipad for noodles. The tweaking of synths but I do have controllers. Launchpad and encoders etc. So maybe its sort of the same. Were going to buy a drumbrute impact. Seems the quickest for beats but think even a controller system is the same.
@sigma79 imo, you're gonna get more mileage outta the 2 Volcas. I've got a M:C - it's been sitting in its box for months because it's FM-based machines have a limited palette.
If you're going to be sampling one-shots from the Volcas, why not add another mini-modular (that uses the mini-pins like the Volca Modular) like the Soundmachines NS1, Bastl Kastle, Bastl Kastle Drum...
Thanks StudioES. Wont buy the Elektron. Just need to use the gear iv bought tbh.
Can the ocoast be sequenced from ios and there be a midi cable ( obviously )
@sigma79 Sure, 0-Coast can be sequenced over MIDI. It can listen to 2 MIDI channels too.
The MIDI In port is the new small 3.5mm TRS-to-MIDI (like a stereo headphone cable). It has to be a Type A, like below.
https://www.perfectcircuit.com/make-noise-0-coast-midi-cable.html
btw, your Volca Modular doesn't have a built-in MIDI-to-CV converter like the 0-Coast, but you can buy a converter for very little money. [Try Etsy or Reverb. Search for MIDI-to-CV converter or MIDI-to-CV interface.]
Or use the Volca's analog sync input with an output from your audio interface to drive the Volca's sequencer.
Seems like Syntakt is a bargain, the more I think about it. ?
12 tracks, with sound locks too. (MD had 16 tracks, MnM 6, A4 4, Digitakt 8, Digitone 4, M:C & M:S 6...)
Syntakt:
8 digital tracks with machines inspired by MD and M:C.
4 analog tracks with machines inspired by AR.
1 analog FX track inspired by A4 and Analog Heat.
30+ machines, most are drum synthesis, but all can be played chromatically. The additional base-width filter in the digital section is nice, if it's like the MnM. Too bad there's no digital delay for each track though, I suppose the analog FX track and global delay+reverb makes up for it...
I frequent Elektronauts, but the threads there have become unwieldy and I'm not having much luck finding a definite answer, so maybe someone here knows:
I'm planning on getting a Syntakt ASAP regardless, but I'm wondering if it - based on released specs, and/or prior Digitakt/Tone capability - can act as an audio interface with my iPad (without Overbridge, obvs). What I'm picturing is connecting my opsix to the Syntakt via MIDI and audio-in, then USB from Syntakt to my iPad. Basically, does the Line-In audio pass through the Syntakt via USB as well?
opsix/Syntakt/drambo would kind of be everything I need, I think (for now...).
@timelining Syntakt appears to be a class-compliant audio+MIDI interface, in addition to Overbridge-capable, like DT & DN.
And it appears to be locked at 48 kHz, again like DT & DN, when in class-compliant mode. Should be basic 2x2 i/o with iPad.
If it's like DT & DN, then yes.
https://www.elektron.se/support/?connection=syntakt#manuals
Page 71+
Thank you! I read through the manual and thought it answered my question but couldn't find any examples of it on the 'tube or anything.
Thanks. Decided to sell both volcas as have made a setup ( it seems like Borsta might be a good app ) but wont explain why Id sell because of that but are you saying I can use 5 pin midi > sync cable. To get sync ( when needed ) to volca modular? Iv got the app for sync just didnt know about a cable. Always used the volca drum to sync the modular and with IOS.